Pope Francis: Try to change Socio-Economic rules

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Pope Francis: Try to change the rules of the socio-economic system

"The Holy Father was speaking to participants of a meeting to mark the 25th anniversary of the founding of Economy of Communion."

He said that imitating the Good Samaritan in the Gospel is important, but not enough.

"It is important to act above all before the man comes across the robbers, by battling the frameworks of sin that produce robbers and victims. An entrepreneur who is only a good Samaritan does half of his duty: He takes care of today’s victim, but does not curtail those of tomorrow.”

The link takes you to the story about his talk as well as the transcript. A lot of good and powerful language in it. Should be broadcast more widely. I love the part about sharing the leaven to keep the bread from spoiling.
 

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Fits right in with JPII work on Social Sin: Reconciliatio et Paenitentia (December 2, 1984) | John Paul II


At this point we must ask what was being referred to by those who during the preparation of the synod and in the course of its actual work frequently spoke of social sin.

The expression and the underlying concept in fact have various meanings.

To speak of social sin means in the first place to recognize that, by virtue of human solidarity which is as mysterious and intangible as it is real and concrete, each individual's sin in some way affects others. This is the other aspect of that solidarity which on the religious level is developed in the profound and magnificent mystery of the communion of saints, thanks to which it has been possible to say that "every soul that rises above itself, raises up the world." To this law of ascent there unfortunately corresponds the law of descent. Consequently one can speak of a communion of sin, whereby a soul that lowers itself through sin drags down with itself the church and, in some way, the whole world. In other words, there is no sin, not even the most intimate and secret one, the most strictly individual one, that exclusively concerns the person committing it. With greater or lesser violence, with greater or lesser harm, every sin has repercussions on the entire ecclesial body and the whole human family. According to this first meaning of the term, every sin can undoubtedly be considered as social sin.

Some sins, however, by their very matter constitute a direct attack on one's neighbor and more exactly, in the language of the Gospel, against one's brother or sister. They are an offense against God because they are offenses against one's neighbor. These sins are usually called social sins, and this is the second meaning of the term. In this sense social sin is sin against love of neighbor, and in the law of Christ it is all the more serious in that it involves the Second Commandment, which is "like unto the first."(72) Likewise, the term social applies to every sin against justice in interpersonal relationships, committed either by the individual against the community or by the community against the individual. Also social is every sin against the rights of the human person, beginning with the right to nd including the life of the unborn or against a person's physical integrity. Likewise social is every sin against others' freedom, especially against the supreme freedom to believe in God and adore him; social is every sin against the dignity and honor of one's neighbor. Also social is every sin against the common good and its exigencies in relation to the whole broad spectrum of the rights and duties of citizens. The term social can be applied to sins of commission or omission-on the part of political, economic or trade union leaders, who though in a position to do so, do not work diligently and wisely for the improvement and transformation of society according to the requirements and potential of the given historic moment; as also on the part of workers who through absenteeism or non-cooperation fail to ensure that their industries can continue to advance the well-being of the workers themselves, of their families and of the whole of society.

 
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Fits right in with JPII work on Social Sin: Reconciliatio et Paenitentia (December 2, 1984) | John Paul II


At this point we must ask what was being referred to by those who during the preparation of the synod and in the course of its actual work frequently spoke of social sin.

The expression and the underlying concept in fact have various meanings.

To speak of social sin means in the first place to recognize that, by virtue of human solidarity which is as mysterious and intangible as it is real and concrete, each individual's sin in some way affects others. This is the other aspect of that solidarity which on the religious level is developed in the profound and magnificent mystery of the communion of saints, thanks to which it has been possible to say that "every soul that rises above itself, raises up the world." To this law of ascent there unfortunately corresponds the law of descent. Consequently one can speak of a communion of sin, whereby a soul that lowers itself through sin drags down with itself the church and, in some way, the whole world. In other words, there is no sin, not even the most intimate and secret one, the most strictly individual one, that exclusively concerns the person committing it. With greater or lesser violence, with greater or lesser harm, every sin has repercussions on the entire ecclesial body and the whole human family. According to this first meaning of the term, every sin can undoubtedly be considered as social sin.

Some sins, however, by their very matter constitute a direct attack on one's neighbor and more exactly, in the language of the Gospel, against one's brother or sister. They are an offense against God because they are offenses against one's neighbor. These sins are usually called social sins, and this is the second meaning of the term. In this sense social sin is sin against love of neighbor, and in the law of Christ it is all the more serious in that it involves the Second Commandment, which is "like unto the first."(72) Likewise, the term social applies to every sin against justice in interpersonal relationships, committed either by the individual against the community or by the community against the individual. Also social is every sin against the rights of the human person, beginning with the right to nd including the life of the unborn or against a person's physical integrity. Likewise social is every sin against others' freedom, especially against the supreme freedom to believe in God and adore him; social is every sin against the dignity and honor of one's neighbor. Also social is every sin against the common good and its exigencies in relation to the whole broad spectrum of the rights and duties of citizens. The term social can be applied to sins of commission or omission-on the part of political, economic or trade union leaders, who though in a position to do so, do not work diligently and wisely for the improvement and transformation of society according to the requirements and potential of the given historic moment; as also on the part of workers who through absenteeism or non-cooperation fail to ensure that their industries can continue to advance the well-being of the workers themselves, of their families and of the whole of society.

Yes, it does. Pope Francis says the same things that other recent popes have said. But it seems he says them a little more forcefully, and in situations that garner attention. Plus, with the electronic media that the Vatican uses now to communicate, it is more readily and quickly available to everyone.​
 
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Here is the Pope's little story, from his talk, about sharing the leavening. I just love it, and the underlying message.

"When there were no refrigerators, to preserve the mother dough of the bread, they gave a small amount of their own leavened dough to a neighbour, and when they needed to make bread again they received a handful of leavened dough from that woman or from another who had received it in her turn. It is reciprocity. Communion is not only the sharing but also the multiplying of goods, the creation of new bread, of new goods, of new Good with a capital ‘G’. The living principle of the Gospel remains active only if we give it: if instead we possessively keep it all and only for ourselves, it goes mouldy and dies. The economy of communion will have a future if you give it to everyone and it does not remain only inside your ‘house’. Give it to everyone, firstly to the poor and the young, who are those who need it most and know how to make the gift received bear fruit! To have life in abundance one must learn to give: not only the profits of businesses, but of yourselves.
 
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Pope Francis: Try to change the rules of the socio-economic system

"The Holy Father was speaking to participants of a meeting to mark the 25th anniversary of the founding of Economy of Communion."

He said that imitating the Good Samaritan in the Gospel is important, but not enough.

"It is important to act above all before the man comes across the robbers, by battling the frameworks of sin that produce robbers and victims. An entrepreneur who is only a good Samaritan does half of his duty: He takes care of today’s victim, but does not curtail those of tomorrow.”

The link takes you to the story about his talk as well as the transcript. A lot of good and powerful language in it. Should be broadcast more widely. I love the part about sharing the leaven to keep the bread from spoiling.

I disagree with what he has said in his speech because he is essentially switching the values around in his examples.
because this is not my home forum and I don't intend to debate here i'll say no more about it, but simply offer up my opinion of the article for what it is worth.
 
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I disagree with what he has said in his speech because he is essentially switching the values around in his examples.
because this is not my home forum and I don't intend to debate here i'll say no more about it, but simply offer up my opinion of the article for what it is worth.
You are correct that the Pope is switching the values around. As I would expect him to do, into the proper order for Catholics and other Christians. I happen to think he is spot on, and as was pointed out in other posts, he is saying what popes in the past have said. And may I add, what many Catholic bishops' conferences have said. I personally think he says it the best.
 
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It adds into his overall recent theme. Like with only going by the letter of the ten commandments rather than the two great ones. Here it is, help the one in front of you but do not ignore what has created the situation. In other words, sometimes we can take a view that we should do X and we are righteous. But if we truly want to observe what is at the heart of X...we must do much more.
 
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Some other key quotes from the article:

The Holy Father went on to note that although there are many public and private initiatives to fight poverty, “capitalism continues to produce discarded people whom it would then like to care for.”

“The principal ethical dilemma of this capitalism is the creation of discarded people, then trying to hide them or make sure they are never seen,” – the Pope continued – “A serious form of poverty in a civilization is when it is no longer able to see its poor, who are first discarded and then hidden.”

Pope Francis said the Economy of Communion, if it wants to be faithful to its charism, must not only take care of the victims, but also build a system where the victims are fewer and fewer, until maybe there are no longer any.

“As long as the economy still produces one victim and there is still a single discarded person, communion has not yet been realized; the celebration of universal fraternity is not full,” he said.

“Therefore, We must work toward changing the rules of the game of the socio-economic system,” – the Pope continued – “imitating the Good Samaritan of the Gospel is not enough.”

“Of course, when an entrepreneur or any person happens upon a victim, he or she is called to take care of the victim and, perhaps like the Good Samaritan, also enlist the fraternal action of the market (the innkeeper),” – Pope Francis continued – “I know that you have sought to do so for 25 years. But it is important to act above all before the man comes across the robbers, by battling the frameworks of sin that produce robbers and victims. An entrepreneur who is only a good Samaritan does half of his duty: He takes care of today’s victim, but does not curtail those of tomorrow.”

[...]“May the ‘no’ to an economy that kills become a ‘yes’ to an economy that lets live,” – he concluded – “because it shares, includes the poor, uses profits to create communion.”
 
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Our President IS changing economic rules...he ended Dodd-Frank so that consumers will have no protection against deceptive advertising and notices--among other things.

Oops! Just realized that Pope Francis is recommending exactly the opposite.

Well, choose your sides! I choose Pope Francis'.
 
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