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[LovesToBless]

Something occured to me about Locke and un-Locke. In other words, the two Locke situation, one dead, the other going to find Jacob.

We have seen two Lockes before. Is it possible that live Locke is actually time traveling Locke from a different time we haven't seen yet?

Interesting thought...have to think about it some more.

We were talking and wondering when Locke was actually "taken over" by Esau, especially since he said to Jacob - "you have no idea what I've been through to get here" (or words to that effect) Could he have taken over Locke back on the beach in the original scene where Locke has found he can walk again?

And then...what about that scene where it looks like Jacob brings Locke back from death, after he's just been pushed out the window. What was that all about?

I'm still open to the idea of the dead (in the cargo crate) John Locke not being the "real him" for some reason, although I can't really say why.

Probably because of all the times on this show I/we thought we knew what was going on.

 

[sweeticus]

Something occured to me about Locke and un-Locke. In other words, the two Locke situation, one dead, the other going to find Jacob.

We have seen two Lockes before. Is it possible that live Locke is actually time traveling Locke from a different time we haven't seen yet?

Interesting thought...have to think about it some more.

We were talking and wondering when Locke was actually "taken over" by Esau, especially since he said to Jacob - "you have no idea what I've been through to get here" (or words to that effect) Could he have taken over Locke back on the beach in the original scene where Locke has found he can walk again?

And then...what about that scene where it looks like Jacob brings Locke back from death, after he's just been pushed out the window. What was that all about?

I'm still open to the idea of the dead (in the cargo crate) John Locke not being the "real him" for some reason, although I can't really say why.

Probably because of all the times on this show I/we thought we knew what was going on.

These are both very interesting thoughts. Live-Locke could be time travelling from the past, which would explain his ability to walk on the island; or Live-Locke might have been un-Locke the whole time, from the minute they got to the island.

I mentioned this in the Talk About Jacob thread, but it seems like un-Locke doesn't know things that he should logically know after having spent time on the island with Jacob already. For example, he didn't know where Jacob lived and needed Richard to guide him.

Most importantly, he didn't seem to know the significance of the statue when Richard took him there. He said, "It's a very nice statue, but what does any of this have to do with Jacob?" Since we saw him on the beach with Jacob in front of that statue in the first scene, I would have expected him to know very well what the statue had to do with Jacob.

So I'm really curious about when the body snatching actually happened.

Also, since Jacob can get off the island apparently at will, seems to be prescient, and knew he needed Ilana's help when he visited her in the hospital, I wonder if those flashbacks we saw in the finale weren't actually flashbacks at all, but time-flashes. Maybe we saw Jacob going back in time in 2007 to visit each of those people in their whens. That would have the effect that Daniel's visit to Desmond in the hatch had, where he lived all the time we've known him without that memory until Daniel went back in a flash, and then suddenly present-time Desmond remembered the visit.