Polystrate Tree Fossils

[LorentzHA]

Gould made that statement in 1982 at a evil-oution confrence I recall. Hay another good quote by Aldus Huxley the late & former UNESCO head on Public Broabcastion in the early 70's when asked why he thought Evil-oution was accepted so quickly said "because the idea of god interfers wityhour sexual morays", what a eyeopening statement as well as a devistating statement for the evil-outionists to deal with.

I was initialing wondering who this Gould guy was...after reading the above statement I do not want to know. A statement like that tells sane people that he is not to be taken seriously. I will listen to and examine any type of idea or evidence that someone has, however, when people demand proof and intelligent reason - instead of giving it to them he them attacks their character and "sexual morays"? What does that have to do with ANYTHING? I am trying to decipher the above statement...so, you are saying that if someone has studied evoltuion and the sciences behind it, that someone means they must be sexually deviant?

I CAN tell you this, from what I have studied of psycology: typically when people make accusations or speak out about peoples sexuals morays, homosexuality, etc. etc....it is a proven FACT that THOSE people have some issues THEY have not accepted. Straight men are not the ones beating up homosexuals...they are out dating women and enjoying life!

Who in their right mind would even bring up sexuality in relation to evolution?? It has nothing to do with science. It does not embarrass you to quote a person like this? This Gould sounds like a homophobic little man.

This is one of the stranger posts I have come across in this forum. Is this a joke?

 

[obediah001]

Stephen J Gould the leading Evolutioist who just died few months ago; the other was decendant of darwins Evil-outioary bulldog Thomas Huxley his grandson & one time presof the communist UNESCO. As said Huxley was on PBS TV when asked why Eviloution became so popular he made the statement that it was cause the idea of god interfered with peoples sexual morays. Stephen Gould was being suprisingly honest at he time he said what he did thought he still holds to the theory think he postulated the directed trans-permia nonsense as he well knew there are no transitional fossils & one day it will be common knowledge, so he was in desperation groping for other explanations.

 

[JohnR7]

Stephen J Gould the leading Evolutioist who just died few months ago; the other was decendant of darwins Evil-outioary bulldog Thomas Huxley his grandson & one time presof the communist UNESCO.

More than 3000 years ago, Abraham was called by God out of the Chaldean city of Ur. They were a very scientific and advanced culture. But they worshiped the moon God: "Sin". Abraham was called to seperate himself from them.

The real foundation of evolution is at least 2500 years ago, with the Greeks, but it goes back further than that really. The early church fathers use to have debates with the non believers pretty much the same way we do today on this forum.

 

[JohnR7]

I CAN tell you this, from what I have studied of psycology: typically when people make accusations or speak out about peoples sexuals morays, homosexuality, etc. etc....it is a proven FACT that THOSE people have some issues THEY have not accepted

Hay, stick around, I have told people on this forum that many, many times, that they are guilty of the very things that they accuse me of. But I always am told to knock off the Pee Wee imitation of: I know what you are, but what am I?

 

[obediah001]

You really lost me here. Dont know what point you are after. Maybe I sistired it is nearin me bed time u know.

 

[ThePhoenix]

Would it be fair to wager at this point that obediah001 is an atheist troll trying to make creationists look silly?

Yeah. Sorry Dayton, but this guy has you beaten. Alternatively he's under 14, a distinct possibility given his spelling. I've seen many 12 year olds act disturbingly annoying.

 

[JohnR7]

Would it be fair to wager at this point that (Pete Harcoff)obediah001 is an (atheist) atheist troll trying to make (evolutions)creationists look silly?

How can you tell who is who is you don't have a program?

 

[Pete Harcoff]

How can you tell who is who is you don't have a program?

Given the YEC turnover in these forums, the program would change so often, it seems hardly worth printing them up in the first place.

 

[obediah001]

No Obediah001 is not 12 am 41 & I am not an athiest; Jesus is creator God! Am new dont know what a program is U mentioned. My intentional spelling errors are a joke of sorts as I live in the Ozarks back in the woods & we are supposed to be a bunch of illiterate hillbillies here.

 

[LadyShea]

Tell you what, how about you use the correct term evolutionist instead of your juvenile evilutionist, and maybe we'll be inclined not to call you cretinists...deal? Or, are you in fact an atheist troll or a teenager trying to get a rise out of everyone. I don't believe you intenionally mispell or use the text shortcuts such as "u" at 41. We already think you're ignorant for being YEC, your location is irrelevant.

 

[obediah001]

S for the psych major I would take alot of the humunistic nonsense they teachin those institutes of higher learning with a grain or 2 of salt. I can not date women or ladies, which would be my choice if I could as I am happily married now for near 6 years. So much for you PHD in psych ed blather.

 

[JohnR7]

Tell you what, how about you use the correct term evolutionist instead of your juvenile evilutionist, and maybe we'll be inclined not to call you cretinists...deal?

It really should be Evildelusionist anyways. Perhaps we can coin a new word. Be careful these things can travel fast.

 

[JohnR7]

Given the YEC turnover in these forums, the program would change so often, it seems hardly worth printing them up in the first place.

Ink is not cheap. YEC people do not seem to stay very long. As much as people want to debate a YEC, I wonder why it is they are so quick to chase them off calling them names and attacking them personally instead of just debating the issues.

 

[ThePhoenix]

No Obediah001 is not 12 am 41 & I am not an athiest; Jesus is creator God! Am new dont know what a program is U mentioned. My intentional spelling errors are a joke of sorts as I live in the Ozarks back in the woods & we are supposed to be a bunch of illiterate hillbillies here.

Trolling. 100% certain. The spelling, the language, the ridiculous attempts to get us riled up, the vast ability to ignore whatever we post, the short length of the posts, the fact he's never started his own, it all points in the same direction. A 41 year old man never wrote this sentance. The structure is wrong.

 

[LadyShea]

John, you have seen yourself that YEC's come her, post a lot of nonsense, are unable to discuss the numerous refutations, then say we are mean and leave. If they could actually discuss anything we wouldn't have an issue here.

 

[Pete Harcoff]

Ink is not cheap. YEC people do not seem to stay very long. As much as people want to debate a YEC, I wonder why it is they are so quick to chase them off calling them names and attacking them personally instead of just debating the issues.

B-b-but obediah001 started it!

Let's have a reality check, though. A lot of the time YECs that come to the forum are simply reciting arguments from the PRATT list. I can't remember the last time I saw a YEC bring something original to the table.

Furthermore, there are numerous falsifications of YEC in various threads that have gone continually ignored by YECs. They are more than free to participate in those discussions, but they don't.

 

[obediah001]

Obediah001 wants toknow what trolling is, have seen the term used few times? Am faily new to this board dont even know how to post muy own stuff yet. I do not ignore your posts, as for those defending Evil-oution well they have been well written of & refuted elsewhere & too I may not know of the specific refrence you have made, which in no way threatens Creationism.

 

[Cantuar]

Gould made that statement in 1982 at a evil-oution confrence I recall.

So let's have the context. If you don't know the context, you don't know what he really said, do you?

 

[JohnR7]

John, you have seen yourself that YEC's come her, post a lot of nonsense, are unable to discuss the numerous refutations, then say we are mean and leave. If they could actually discuss anything we wouldn't have an issue here.

Actually, there are some issues to discuss, even right off of Dr. Dino's site. There are points that they make on the web site that have never been addressed or refuted here on this forum.

As far as if evolutionists actually sucessfully refute YEC claims, I am not so sure of that. But people do get tired of the same old discussions. There is only so much that can be said for moon dust and Dr. Dinos answer for Biodiversification that Kangaroos can swim has been pretty well refuted.

 

[LadyShea]

Obediah001 wants toknow what trolling is, have seen the term used few times? Am faily new to this board dont even know how to post muy own stuff yet. I do not ignore your posts, as for those defending Evil-oution well they have been well written of & refuted elsewhere & too I may not know of the specific refrence you have made, which in no way threatens Creationism.

A troll is someone who posts on a board just to get a reaction. They may misrepresent themselves (as I suspect you're doing), they may argue for a position they don't actually hold to make the "other side" look stupid, or they spend all of their time making stupid pointless inflammatory comments but never actually discuss anything.