Poll on the election

[Strathos]

I just want to see which views are most prevalent here.

 

[Strathos]

Oops, posted in wrong forum. Sorry.

 

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[essentialsaltes]

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[Nine of Spades]

I just want to see which views are most prevalent here.

The fact that over 90% of all people who voted in your poll chose option no. 1 suggests a lot of eagerness to disbelieve the facts. Those facts being that widespread voter fraud occurred and there was corruption at a massive level. Trump is our true president—if only the votes were counted fairly.

 

[cow451]

The fact that over 90% of all people who voted in your poll chose option no. 1 suggests a lot of eagerness to disbelieve the facts. Those facts being that widespread voter fraud occurred and there was corruption at a massive level. Trump is our true president—if only the votes were counted fairly.

# snort

 

[MIDutch]

The fact that over 90% of all people who voted in your poll chose option no. 1 suggests a lot of eagerness to disbelieve the facts. Those facts being that widespread voter fraud occurred and there was corruption at a massive level. Trump is our true president—if only the votes were counted fairly.

Odd that these "facts" you mention don't seem to have any convincing EVIDENCE behind them.

A blurry video that someone carefully edited to make it look like something, a crazy drunk woman testifying in front of a state committee, a bunch of "signed affidavits" by people who may have seen something, etc..

Heck, even creationists can come up with better fake evidence.

 

[Yttrium]

The fact that over 90% of all people who voted in your poll chose option no. 1 suggests a lot of eagerness to disbelieve the facts. Those facts being that widespread voter fraud occurred and there was corruption at a massive level. Trump is our true president—if only the votes were counted fairly.

I'm not gonna take the "facts" of sasquatch, the Loch Ness monster, or space alien visitations very seriously either, due to also having a severe lack of supporting evidence.

Which is more likely, that a highly polarizing guy failed to win over a majority of voters in enough states, then cried "fraud", and his loyal followers took it to heart; or the Democrats and a large number of Republicans somehow engineered massive fraud that a bunch of loyal Trump supporters spotted but no one can confirm in court? Not being able to win over voters is by far the simpler solution, especially considering how many people Trump managed to annoy this year.

 

[muichimotsu]

I'm not gonna take the "facts" of sasquatch, the Loch Ness monster, or space alien visitations very seriously either, due to also having a severe lack of supporting evidence.

Which is more likely, that a highly polarizing guy failed to win over a majority of voters in enough states, then cried "fraud", and his loyal followers took it to heart; or the Democrats and a large number of Republicans somehow engineered massive fraud that a bunch of loyal Trump supporters spotted but no one can confirm in court? Not being able to win over voters is by far the simpler solution, especially considering how many people Trump managed to annoy this year.

Especially when he tried to bring mail in voting into question and is then trying to say that the mail in votes were fraudulent because none of them were for him even though I'm also pretty sure he basically suggested (and he'd say he was joking) to send in multiple mail in ballots for him to "test" the system

 

[mmksparbud]

The fact that over 90% of all people who voted in your poll chose option no. 1 suggests a lot of eagerness to disbelieve the facts. Those facts being that widespread voter fraud occurred and there was corruption at a massive level. Trump is our true president—if only the votes were counted fairly.

Those "facts" have not been proven in any of the over 50 lawsuits!

 

[Subduction Zone]

The fact that over 90% of all people who voted in your poll chose option no. 1 suggests a lot of eagerness to disbelieve the facts. Those facts being that widespread voter fraud occurred and there was corruption at a massive level. Trump is our true president—if only the votes were counted fairly.

Standard question:

Where is the evidence?

 

[cow451]

Standard question:

Where is the evidence?

The Space Force Guardians have their first assignment!

 

[Nine of Spades]

Standard question:

Where is the evidence?

Fox News has done some stellar reporting on this subject. Have you watched their network lately?

 

[Desk trauma]

Fox News has done some stellar reporting on this subject. Have you watched their network lately?

Standard follow up question: and none of this was raised or did not pass muster in court because?

 

[ThatRobGuy]

Biden won...Trump (and his supporters) are having a hard time digesting the reality that he's not as popular as they thought he was.

...and they're using the fact that there are marginal miscounts and irregularities in every election as evidence that "there were major irregularities and we need to do the whole thing from scratch"

Obviously, with 150+ million ballots cast, there are going to be negligible miscounts, etc...but not enough to change the outcome, and certainly not to the tune of the 6 million vote lead Biden had.

It's grasping at straws...

If GOP strategists were smart, they'd be using the very valuable information that came out of the election, which is...there was a lot of "people who voted for Biden for president, voted against democratic house reps" and using it to their advantage instead of chasing ghosts in order to please a demagogue.

The reality is, there is an opportunity to pounce for the GOP, and that's in the moderate realm...many people (who didn't like Trump) still don't like what the far-left "woke" wing of the democratic party is selling either, something as simple as elevating moderate-conservative voices like John Kasich and Charlie Baker would be a great strategy for them. However, if they're going to dig their heels in on the failed premise that "Trumpism is what the majority of people want", they're going to fail.

A GOP ticket of Kasich/Baker could easily win against an incumbent democratic ticket in 2024 (especially if the squad, and their followers, keeps up their tactics), however, if people in the GOP insist on pushing Trumpism again next election cycle, they'll lose again.

 

[muichimotsu]

Fox News has done some stellar reporting on this subject. Have you watched their network lately?

Oh...that's adorable, you really think people take Fox News as authoritative? Even Trump supporters are throwing the network out and people before that have mountains of evidence to show that Fox News doesn't care about truth, only presenting their narrative that gets them money and viewers

 

[Subduction Zone]

Fox News has done some stellar reporting on this subject. Have you watched their network lately?

I heard that they recently ran a debunk on fraud claims in the election. Is that what you are talking about?

 

[mmksparbud]

Oh...that's adorable, you really think people take Fox News as authoritative? Even Trump supporters are throwing the network out and people before that have mountains of evidence to show that Fox News doesn't care about truth, only presenting their narrative that gets them money and viewers

And yet, even though he berates the network, he still gives them interviews!

And, they are now having to run those adds, stating that there was no evidence found for fraud or face lawsuits. They quickly caved. If they had evidence, that was their chance to present it in court.

 

[muichimotsu]

And yet, even though he berates the network, he still gives them interviews!

And, they are now having to run those adds, stating that there was no evidence found for fraud or face lawsuits. They quickly caved. If they had evidence, that was their chance to present it in court.

It's weird when 10+ years ago people generally would trust Fox News and likely support the same policies Trump advocated for, but now they treat even them as "fake news"

 

[mmksparbud]

It's weird when 10+ years ago people generally would trust Fox News and likely support the same policies Trump advocated for, but now they treat even them as "fake news"

Ten years ago, the results of the elections were simply accepted. The outgoing president courteously conceded.