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[Adventtruth]

stinsonmarri,

The people in Africa that came here to be slaves were sold by their own kings. They were sold to the white man by their own people. So if you are going to place blame, you need to do a little more research and place blame on all parties involved, not just one group.

Nebuchadnezzar did not enslave groups of people? Were the Jewish people just in Babylon for an extended vacation?

You need to turn off the liberal media and try doing some research on current events on the internet. The Tea Party is not trying to enslave anyone. And women's rights are not being targeted. Where are you getting all this biased information? Are you one of the three people in the US still watching MSNBC, NBC, CBS?


Happy Sabbath,
MidnightCry

What do you think about how many are now trying to block the black vote?

 

[Adventtruth]

stinsonmarri,

The people in Africa that came here to be slaves were sold by their own kings. They were sold to the white man by their own people. So if you are going to place blame, you need to do a little more research and place blame on all parties involved, not just one group.

There is certainly alot of blame to go around, but not all slaves where sold...many where just snatched away and many of those died in route.

Nebuchadnezzar did not enslave groups of people? Were the Jewish people just in Babylon for an extended vacation?

You need to turn off the liberal media and try doing some research on current events on the internet. The Tea Party is not trying to enslave anyone. And women's rights are not being targeted. Where are you getting all this biased information? Are you one of the three people in the US still watching MSNBC, NBC, CBS?


Happy Sabbath,
MidnightCry

Seems to me you need to come from the far right and stop watching Lou Dobbs and Fox news. There is certainly racial tones through out Obama's presidency and the majority is coming from the right from many of those in the Tea Party. And female rights? Please....tell me your are not in agreement with Ryan on female rights when it comes to abortions.

 

[stinsonmarri]

There is certainly alot of blame to go around, but not all slaves where sold...many where just snatched away and many of those died in route.

Nebuchadnezzar did not enslave groups of people? Were the Jewish people just in Babylon for an extended vacation?

Seems to me you need to come from the far right and stop watching Lou Dobbs and Fox news. There is certainly racial tones through out Obama's presidency and the majority is coming from the right from many of those in the Tea Party. And female rights? Please....tell me your are not in agreement with Ryan on female rights when it comes to abortions.

Adventtruth:

I do agree with some of your comments. I do feel it is wrong to abort but not in the case of rape or incest. The Bible backs this up as well. David being King did the following:

And David sent and enquired after the woman. And one said, Is not this Bathsheba, the daughter of Eliam, the wife of Uriah the Hittite? And David sent messengers, and took her; and she came in unto him, and he lay with her; for she was purified from her uncleanness: and she returned unto her house. 2Sa 11:3, 4

I assume you all know the rest of the story. The baby died by the hand of ELOHIM because it was rape and murder by David.​

I do believe in condomn because it will protect those who are not ready to obey ELOHIM and not to bring innocent children in this cruel world of sin. But, I feel it also help from sexual diseases as well.

As for slavery I would like all to listen to the information about Rommney and the Tea Party Republicans:

Did anyone watch what the Theologian that was on the Ed Show a few months back stated. He provided information about Mormonism beliefs even though they allow blacks into the priesthood. Romney feels that blacks are inferior to white people and that is the main problem. You wonder why there are underlying remarks also the continual perpetuation about the President's birth certificate that Romney refuses to speak out against. The fact is very simple the Tea Party chose this man who they once felt his religion was an occult! Have you notice that the Evangelical ministers who once spoke out against his faith have been hushed! It is because of that certain part of his faith they agree and that is racism. The question is not about them allowing blacks into the priesthood. Although they have made many changes especially the new generation, Romney comes from the old school. He believes that Cain's mark had to do with him turning black. They do not believe that the black people are equal spiritual as whites. Here is an example of Romney's beliefs:​

Many LDS church documents and church leaders asserted that dark skin was an indication of sin or a curse. Shadow or Reality? Gerald and Sandra Tanner p. 262-266

A black skin is a mark of the curse of heaven.... We understand that when God made man in his own image and pronounced him very good, that he made him white."Juvenile Instructor, vol. 3, page 157​

If they believe that were created white than a black man is not in title to the highest office of America. The reason is that LDS is the new Israel and America is the new Jerusalem and Romney is their long belief that a LDS would to hold this office by his church. Read it they do not hid this belief because they believe that a Mormon will change United States it is the Melchizedeck calling!​

Many Christians have interpreted that the “mark” is a part of the “curse.” In the 18th century, in the United States as well as Europe, the teaching was birthed that Cain’s “mark” was a black skin, and that Cain’s descendants were black and still under “the curse of Cain.” Even though the majority of Cain’s descendants were destroyed in the flood, Latter-day Saints, or Mormons, beginning in the early to mid 1800’s, believed that Cain’s bloodline was preserved on the ark through the wife of Noah’s son, Ham, whose name was Egyptus. Interestingly, though this was an almost universally held view amongst the LDS faithful, and widely taught still today, it has never been canonized as doctrine.​

With this being so widely taught and accepted, some naturally have seen themselves as better than those with skin colors darker than theirs. Many even share this thought privately, never connecting the thought with the true definition of racism. However, these racial and ethnic interpretations of the curse and mark have been, for the most part, abandoned by most conservative theologians since the mid-20th century, although they still have some following among the older generation of Caucasians, as well as a very small number of Protestant churches. Blacks In The Scriptures by Scott Gordon, Margaret Young, Richard Miller, Marvin Perkins, Chris Kite, Dana King, Darius Gray, and Renee Olson. (Black LDS)

My point here was that Mormons have always struggled internally with how to handle blacks. ​

. . . Mormonism’s relationship to race follows patterns that are typical to many American Protestant movements and denominations (I reminded our students that Mormons, like all American churches, were forced to take sides during the 1840s over the question of slavery. As such the references to the Curse of Ham were certainly not unique to Mormons).​

. . . I’ve forever linked Mormonism with “race”, or worse yet “racism” in our students’ minds. I was very conscious of the potential for this (as well as very aware that as in almost all of the courses we teach, there are a few LDS members to whom we have the responsibility to not add material for anti-Mormon ridicule). I hope I showed that Mormonism is both similar to and different than all other American religious traditions and should be studied as such. Lecturing about Race and Mormonism at Harvard College By: Max - March 18, 2010​

But being a Latter-day Saint is “at the center of who he really is, if you scrape everything else off,” said Randy Sorensen, who worshiped with Mr. Romney in church.​

“. . . I refuse to believe that America is just another place on the map with a flag,” he said in announcing his bid for the presidency last June. Every presidential candidate highlights patriotism, but Mr. Romney’s is backed by the Mormon belief that the United States was chosen by God to play a special role in history, its Constitution divinely inspired. ."Romney’s Faith, Silent but Deep," By JODI KANTOR; Published: May 19, 2012 ​

Romney has been accepted by the GOP because the new Tea Party Movement is racist in their hearts. Many are proving so even though they were once against the belief about Mormonism. They rather have a Mormon in the White House than a Black man. This whole election today is about color and religion. However there are a few who stand up and speak the truth in the Evangelical world. They are silent and hidden but they are there. It is time to truly question Romney about his belief because he does not believe in separation of church and state. Why is Romney refusing to speak out about his religion? Questions in the media and the public needs to ask about his religion and you will find that it is related to the secrecy of his taxes. Ask him and see if he will give an answer. Listen to Pastor Keller who got it right, wake up and realize what is coming:​

Keller stated, "Romney and members of his 'church' believe and teach that African-Americans are cursed and it has only been in the last few decades that they allowed African-Americans to join their 'church.' Just like polygamy, they have had to set aside their true beliefs on race to become mainstream, but that doesn't mean they no longer believe what their 'church' teaches on these issues. "What Romney Really Believes About Race, God, Jesus, the Bible and Christians;" Christian Newswire

Blessings,
stinsonmarri

 

[Amisk]

Remember this, it was 38% of the German population that entered the polling booths in the election that put Hitler into power. Of course, not all of that 38% voted for Hitler, however 62% of those who did not vote, actually voted for him by failing to trouble themselves to cast a ballot.

Don't blame some one else if you end up with a dictator at the helm if you don't vote or fail to pray for guidance in casting your vote.

 

[stinsonmarri]

Remember this, it was 38% of the German population that entered the polling booths in the election that put Hitler into power. Of course, not all of that 38% voted for Hitler, however 62% of those who did not vote, actually voted for him by failing to trouble themselves to cast a ballot.

Don't blame some one else if you end up with a dictator at the helm if you don't vote or fail to pray for guidance in casting your vote.

Can you tell us which one you are refering too please.

Blessing and YAHWEH bless President Obama,
stinsonmarri

 

[stinsonmarri]

What do you think about how many are now trying to block the black vote?

I think it the Jim Crow laws when I was growing up returning. I also believe that Republican Party wants to force people to believe like they do instead of showing them with good moral character. They believe they can kill, lie and any other thing they feel justified to do claiming it in the banner of their god. YAHWEH, YASHUA, and the HOLY SPIRIT does not work like that. They pretend to love the MOST HIGH but not allowing people to vote freely of their choice.

Blessings, and bless President Obama
stinsonmarri

 

[ricker]

I think it the Jim Crow laws when I was growing up returning. I also believe that Republican Party wants to force people to believe like they do instead of showing them with good moral character. They believe they can kill, lie and any other thing they feel justified to do claiming it in the banner of their god. YAHWEH, YASHUA, and the HOLY SPIRIT does not work like that. They pretend to love the MOST HIGH but not allowing people to vote freely of their choice.

Blessings, and bless President Obama
stinsonmarri

How do Republicans force people to vote for candidates they don't want? (FYI, I'm not a party line voter).

 

[stinsonmarri]

How do Republicans force people to vote for candidates they don't want? (FYI, I'm not a party line voter).

Ricker:

Have you not listen to the news. I am not saying this to be offensive. In Penn. the Secretary of State clearly made it be known that his intention of supressing the vote against the blacks so Romne could win. It was shut down to give individuals more time. They are sending it to the US Supreme Court. It was know for a fact the day President Obama was sworn in the Republican Party was plotting in the same city to take him down. The accusation that their is voter fraud when lest than a percent have been found over the country. The main ones complaining was caught spending millions recentlly in Florida were the Republican Party. I am apall how these Evangelicans claim to love the MOST HIGH but try to force their beliefs on others. I am not happy with the Democratic party on many things as well, but they don't come in the name of the MOST HIGH. I am against evolution, abortion, homosexual marriages, but also lying, racism, murder and more. More Republicans have been caught in sexual scandals than ever. The pot cannot talk about the kettle when he is black too! I hope you know that's old wise tale.
Finally I am old and I am now on disablity plus I take care of my mother. Obama Care has been a blessing to me and many others. I am one of the 47% and I want people to obey YAHWEH by my the live I live. I do not want anyone to be force to serve HIM my way but the right way.

Blessings to you and President Obama,
stinsonmarri

 

[ricker]

Ricker:

Have you not listen to the news. I am not saying this to be offensive. In Penn. the Secretary of State clearly made it be known that his intention of supressing the vote against the blacks so Romne could win. It was shut down to give individuals more time. They are sending it to the US Supreme Court. It was know for a fact the day President Obama was sworn in the Republican Party was plotting in the same city to take him down. The accusation that their is voter fraud when lest than a percent have been found over the country. The main ones complaining was caught spending millions recentlly in Florida were the Republican Party. I am apall how these Evangelicans claim to love the MOST HIGH but try to force their beliefs on others. I am not happy with the Democratic party on many things as well, but they don't come in the name of the MOST HIGH. I am against evolution, abortion, homosexual marriages, but also lying, racism, murder and more. More Republicans have been caught in sexual scandals than ever. The pot cannot talk about the kettle when he is black too! I hope you know that's old wise tale.
Finally I am old and I am now on disablity plus I take care of my mother. Obama Care has been a blessing to me and many others. I am one of the 47% and I want people to obey YAHWEH by my the live I live. I do not want anyone to be force to serve HIM my way but the right way.

Blessings to you and President Obama,
stinsonmarri

I'll vote for Obama. I'm not sure how Republicans can keep blacks or others from voting, but maybe it happens.

 

[stinsonmarri]

I'll vote for Obama. I'm not sure how Republicans can keep blacks or others from voting, but maybe it happens.

ricker:
I already have but they are trying too. Satan does not want the prophecies of YAHWEH to be fulfill. I believe that Obama is the man for the time because the sealing of the 144,000 must be completed before the Time of Trouble. Also Islam has to become docile in order for the River Euphrates to be dried up so at the end of the Time of Trouble the king of the east will unite with the beast/man. We are under the sixth seal which includes both the 144,000, (this will over lapped with the sixth seal) the Time of Trouble, Great Multitude, seven trumpets, Armageddon, the killing of the Gentile/harlot and both the destruction of the beast/man and lamb like beast USA in lake of fire.

Blessings to you and President Obama

 

[ricker]

ricker:
I already have but they are trying too. Satan does not want the prophecies of YAHWEH to be fulfill. I believe that Obama is the man for the time because the sealing of the 144,000 must be completed before the Time of Trouble. Also Islam has to become docile in order for the River Euphrates to be dried up so at the end of the Time of Trouble the king of the east will unite with the beast/man. We are under the sixth seal which includes both the 144,000, (this will over lapped with the sixth seal) the Time of Trouble, Great Multitude, seven trumpets, Armageddon, the killing of the Gentile/harlot and both the destruction of the beast/man and lamb like beast USA in lake of fire.
Blessings to you and President Obama

Wow, way too deep for me. I just think Obama is more in touch with the common person, and cares about the environment......

 

[stinsonmarri]

Wow, way too deep for me. I just think Obama is more in touch with the common person, and cares about the environment......

Ricker:​

It may be deep but YAHWEH has warned us to watch the signs of HIS coming and be ready. If it is deep I urge you pray and ask the HOLY SPIRIT to revive you to prepare for these last days.​

Happy Sabbath and YAHWEH bless President Obama,​

stinsonmarri

 

[Jake1958]

Greetings,

You are correct, we should focus on the "gospel" and Christ's word. Since the new birth supercedes the old, we should ask if we are born again according to John 3:3. We are then "born from above".

Our true "love" of "country" should first be "above". God and Heaven should be our first love, not this country. Therefore, "only those who are of faith are sons of Abraham" (Gal. 3:5-7).

Abraham "confessed [we should too] that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth ... and plainly that they seek a country from whence they came out ..." (Hebrews 11).

May God bless America, yet our country is where? "For our citizenship is in heaven, from which we also eagerly wait for the Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ" (Phil. 3:20).

We are strangers and pilgrims, we only have to study the book of Daniel to know the end will be the merging of church and state--religio and political.

What is our calling? "Go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature" (Mark 16:15).

stinsonmarri,

The Tea Party is not racist. You need to join one for yourself and check it out that's what I did. They are a group of people that love this country, the constitution, God, God's Laws, morals, justice... I could go on, but you get the picture.

There are many black people in the Tea Party movement. We are not racist. We just don't like the direction this country is going. We don't want to live in a socialist or communist country. We are a Republic, a nation of laws not of men. (Sadly, we are becoming the latter.)

I suggest you do some further reading on the founding of this nation. You should not get your history from the left wing, controlled media (the history channel, Time mag). They have an agenda. Our founding fathers were an amazing group of God fearing people. God truly blessed our nation!

The Tea Party believes in what Martin Luther King said: "I will judge a man on the content of his character, not on the color of his skin." That is what we all should do.

Most importantly, we should focus on God's Word and spreading the gospel. We need to remember that God is in control and His plans are all that matter.

YSIC,
MidnightCry

 

[ricker]

Ricker:​

It may be deep but YAHWEH has warned us to watch the signs of HIS coming and be ready. If it is deep I urge you pray and ask the HOLY SPIRIT to revive you to prepare for these last days.​

Happy Sabbath and YAHWEH bless President Obama,​

stinsonmarri

Just sayin' you (and I) got our wish that President Obama got a chance at a second term. God bless him indeed!

I think being ready has to do with my belief and acceptance of what Jesus did for me (and you) on the cross. That said, revival is always welcome and needed.

 

[stinsonmarri]

I think we should not concern ourselves with politics too much

We should be aware of the politic and realize that both religion and politic are going to explode in the last days. Be ready!

Blessings,
stinsonmarri

 

[stinsonmarri]

Greetings,

You are correct, we should focus on the "gospel" and Christ's word. Since the new birth supercedes the old, we should ask if we are born again according to John 3:3. We are then "born from above".

Our true "love" of "country" should first be "above". God and Heaven should be our first love, not this country. Therefore, "only those who are of faith are sons of Abraham" (Gal. 3:5-7).

Abraham "confessed [we should too] that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth ... and plainly that they seek a country from whence they came out ..." (Hebrews 11).

May God bless America, yet our country is where? "For our citizenship is in heaven, from which we also eagerly wait for the Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ" (Phil. 3:20).

We are strangers and pilgrims, we only have to study the book of Daniel to know the end will be the merging of church and state--religio and political.

What is our calling? "Go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature" (Mark 16:15).

This country you love is full of hate and it will play an important sinful role to usher in the Coming KING!

Blessings,
stinsonmarri

 

[E.T.Elijah]

Stinson -
I think you missed the whole point of Jake's post. Some Christians get so involved in politics and political agendas that they lose sight of the big picture. We may live on this world, but our true citizenship is in Heaven.

 

[stinsonmarri]

Stinson -
I think you missed the whole point of Jake's post. Some Christians get so involved in politics and political agendas that they lose sight of the big picture. We may live on this world, but our true citizenship is in Heaven.

Elijah:

There is a party that has move religion within politics. This is what the Bible has warned us that will happen. When you think you should tell people how to serve ELOHIM that's a problem. When you think that you ethnic group or color is the only one to be President that's a problem. When you take away women's rights that's a problem. When you hate and someone and are killing other religious groups that's a problem. It all stems from politic and if we close our eyes and do not realize that Matt 24 and the beast in Revelation is not part of politic and religion which is the main picture. If we don't see that is why YAHSHUA will come like a theif because we have not prepare for the politic/religion war that will become world wide from this country-namely USA that's a serious and deadly problem.

Blessings with love,
stinsonmarri