Politics and religion

[SOAD]

This thread is disingenuous.

 

[Sketcher]

No, I was just trying to figure out if it's still ok in America to be a Christian and have Christian beliefs 'cause what I see are Christian Americans strong-armed into not expressing their views in fear of retribution by our own government.

What is hate speech these days? From what I can see, people define hate speech as any Christian viewpoint.

Homosexuality is a sin and an abomination and anyone who practices such behavior is subject to the wrath of God, when that time comes, unless they repent.

Bowing the knee, physically or spiritually whether in respect or in fear, to Islam is idolatry and worship of a false god and anyone who does such is subject to the wrath of God, when that time comes, unless they repent.

Now, I believe those things. I believe they are Scriptural. In today's climate, does that make me a hate-filled bigot or racist, as the media and this administration claim?

Apparently, in Canada, saying things about the worshippers of Islam or homosexuals, as being under God's wrath is considered a hate speech crime, punishable by law.

Hate speech laws in Canada - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Well, those who believe so haven't made their point of view into law yet, and even if they did, it would be blatantly unconstitutional. But if the people in power make you nervous about that, you have a clear choice: vote the bums out.

 

[The Lady Kate]

No, I was just trying to figure out if it's still ok in America to be a Christian and have Christian beliefs 'cause what I see are Christian Americans strong-armed into not expressing their views in fear of retribution by our own government. What is hate speech these days? From what I can see, people define hate speech as any Christian viewpoint.

Not sure where you're looking.

Homosexuality is a sin and an abomination and anyone who practices such behavior is subject to the wrath of God, when that time comes, unless they repent.

See? Nobody's stopping you.

Bowing the knee, physically or spiritually whether in respect or in fear, to Islam is idolatry and worship of a false god and anyone who does such is subject to the wrath of God, when that time comes, unless they repent.

Still no thought police kicking in your door I see.

Now, I believe those things. I believe they are Scriptural. In today's climate, does that make me a hate-filled bigot or racist, as the media and this administration claim?

I haven't seen the media or the administration do that... but my personal experience has been that people looking to make martyrs of themselves usually have no lives to begin with.

Apparently, in Canada, saying things about the worshippers of Islam or homosexuals, as being under God's wrath is considered a hate speech crime, punishable by law.

Canada's pretty strict about that sort of thing, it would seem... doesn't affect the US, tho...

 

[The Lady Kate]

The point is, there Douger, that America is losing.

Losing what, exactly?

 

[TheNewWorldMan]

Losing what, exactly?

We're in danger of contamination of our precious bodily fluids.

 

[nolongerhome]

We're in danger of contamination of our precious bodily fluids.

Too late:

http://www.christianforums.com/t7449378/

 

[TheNewWorldMan]

Too late:

http://www.christianforums.com/t7449378/

 

[reverend B]

it seems to me that swordsmanoffaith has the u.s. to thank for having the right and the freedom to share his ideas openly and with no fear of retribution, but he is too busy trying to cast himself in the role of martyr to notice.

celebrate, swordsman. it is the freedom of gays, hippies, wiccans and muslims that give you the freedom you have. we must either all share it, or all give it up.

 

[DeathMagus]

Well done, denizens of CF, well done. You should be proud of this thread.

 

[Archaeopteryx]

No, I was just trying to figure out if it's still ok in America to be a Christian and have Christian beliefs 'cause what I see are Christian Americans strong-armed into not expressing their views in fear of retribution by our own government.

What is hate speech these days? From what I can see, people define hate speech as any Christian viewpoint.

Homosexuality is a sin and an abomination and anyone who practices such behavior is subject to the wrath of God, when that time comes, unless they repent.

Bowing the knee, physically or spiritually whether in respect or in fear, to Islam is idolatry and worship of a false god and anyone who does such is subject to the wrath of God, when that time comes, unless they repent.

Now, I believe those things. I believe they are Scriptural. In today's climate, does that make me a hate-filled bigot or racist, as the media and this administration claim?

Apparently, in Canada, saying things about the worshippers of Islam or homosexuals, as being under God's wrath is considered a hate speech crime, punishable by law.

Hate speech laws in Canada - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Not necessarily. You are entitled to your opinion, no matter if another's opinion holds it to be bigoted or not.

 

[DaisyDay]

I've seen it happen, they'll call you racist, sexist and more. Don't let them shut you up.

I dunno, coG, seems like you're the one pointing fingers and getting yourself all riled up over what isn't happening.

 

[DaisyDay]

The point is, there Douger, that America is losing.

Does your America include the left and people of other religions? Because I think America is winning.

We are heading down a road of political correctness on hyperdrive and soon Christian's beliefs will be stifled in favor of Sharia-compliance or hate-speech laws.

Hate speech laws would require the partial revocation of the 1st Amendment, so I don't see that happening any time soon. What does "Sharia-compliance" even mean? As for imposing religious laws, such as sharia, there is still the 1st Amendment impediment.

This administration is spending money and threatening people so that free speech is stifled, specifically Christian free speech.

Really? Do you have examples? Because that would be alarming if it were true.

 

[Douger]

What does "Sharia-compliance" even mean?

You'd have to have been listening to Hannity to understand that bit there. It's taken from something Imam Rauf said that was then played up for days on end with no heed paid to explanations of what he meant.

 

[DaisyDay]

You'd have to have been listening to Hannity to understand that bit there. It's taken from something Imam Rauf said that was then played up for days on end with no heed paid to explanations of what he meant.

Gotcha. I only hear Hannity when I'm upstate and my husband isn't in the car with me (that crap annoys him to no end).

 

[Staccato]

Well this board was a little...odd.

Guess the OP is a bit disappointed right now that Christian-hatin' leftist horde didn't nail him to an internet cross for his beliefs. Nothing like being a martyr for the cause to get the blood pumping.

 

[TheNewWorldMan]

Well this board was a little...odd.

Guess the OP is a bit disappointed right now that Christian-hatin' leftist horde didn't nail him to an internet cross for his beliefs. Nothing like being a martyr for the cause to get the blood pumping.

And I don't like seeing American Christians act like oppressed martyrs. It cheapens the cause of those in truly unfree lands who have actually been martyred for the cause of Christ.

 

[childofGod1]

I dunno, coG, seems like you're the one pointing fingers and getting yourself all riled up over what isn't happening.

Riled up? Hardly. Laughing at the predictability of debate is more like it. It's like watching a "B" horrer flick, where you know what happens when the girl runs up the stairs.

 

[nolongerhome]

Riled up? Hardly. Laughing at the predictability of debate is more like it. It's like watching a "B" horrer flick, where you know what happens when the girl runs up the stairs.

Why are you laughing about the "predicitability" of debate when this thread itself demonstrates your prediction to be incorrect?

 

[tulc]

I've seen it happen, they'll call you racist, sexist and more. Don't let them shut you up.

And still no one has done so.
tulc(real liberals never seem to be as cranky as the strawman ones seem to be)

 

[tulc]

Riled up? Hardly. Laughing at the predictability of debate is more like it. It's like watching a "B" horrer flick, where you know what happens when the girl runs up the stairs.

uhmmm...could you point out where anyone in this thread did what you said would happen?
tulc(is wondering if he missed those posts)