Polio!??

[ThatRobGuy]

Thanks anti-vaxxers

They certainly shoulder a bit of the blame...

NY just identified it as well.

CDC estimates that the vast majority of people are vaccinated against it (something like 95%), however, the time period in which a person was vaccinated could play a part.

For instance, if you received the polio vaccine(s) prior to the year 2000 in the US, a two-dose regimen of that was about 90% effective (it went up closer to 98% if you received additional boosters or got the IPV vaccines post-2000), and they only recommend the "lifetime booster option" for at-risk adults.

Polio has a scary "feature", which is that It's estimated that 95 to 99 percent of people who contract poliovirus are asymptomatic due to vaccination. This is known as subclinical polio. Even without symptoms, people infected with poliovirus can still spread the virus and cause infection in others.

The case in NY was in an unvaccinated person, however, the NBC article states that the samples they've detected in NY are linked to samples collected in the UK and Israel.

Which means that it's possible that a person (vaccinated prior to 2000 with a 2-dose oral polio vaccine) could've gone to either of those countries on the trip, came back, been asymptomatic, and started the chain from there. Even with a pre-2000, 2-dose oral regimen being 90% effective (and vaccinated people overwhelmingly being asymptomatic in those rare cases when they do catch it), it highlights how delicate the herd immunity concept is.


However, I would draw a distinction between an "anti-vaxxer", and a person who wasn't vaccinated as a small child (due to their parent not opting for it).

In my case, I had to figure out what vaccines I had by paying to get a titers score test for all "the big ones"...mainly out of curiosity at the time, because when I asked my mom what childhood vaccines I had, her answer was "there were a bunch, but I don't remember which ones".

It's quite possible that there are some people in their 30s/40s walking around today not knowing that they're unvaccinated against polio.

 

[Pommer]

MPGA!

My IRON LUNG stocks could certainly use an outbreak!

 

[blessedmomof5]

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[cow451]

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[Mayzoo]

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[Skye1300]

They certainly shoulder a bit of the blame...

NY just identified it as well.

CDC estimates that the vast majority of people are vaccinated against it (something like 95%), however, the time period in which a person was vaccinated could play a part.

For instance, if you received the polio vaccine(s) prior to the year 2000 in the US, a two-dose regimen of that was about 90% effective (it went up closer to 98% if you received additional boosters or got the IPV vaccines post-2000), and they only recommend the "lifetime booster option" for at-risk adults.

Polio has a scary "feature", which is that It's estimated that 95 to 99 percent of people who contract poliovirus are asymptomatic due to vaccination. This is known as subclinical polio. Even without symptoms, people infected with poliovirus can still spread the virus and cause infection in others.

The case in NY was in an unvaccinated person, however, the NBC article states that the samples they've detected in NY are linked to samples collected in the UK and Israel.

Which means that it's possible that a person (vaccinated prior to 2000 with a 2-dose oral polio vaccine) could've gone to either of those countries on the trip, came back, been asymptomatic, and started the chain from there. Even with a pre-2000, 2-dose oral regimen being 90% effective (and vaccinated people overwhelmingly being asymptomatic in those rare cases when they do catch it), it highlights how delicate the herd immunity concept is.


However, I would draw a distinction between an "anti-vaxxer", and a person who wasn't vaccinated as a small child (due to their parent not opting for it).

In my case, I had to figure out what vaccines I had by paying to get a titers score test for all "the big ones"...mainly out of curiosity at the time, because when I asked my mom what childhood vaccines I had, her answer was "there were a bunch, but I don't remember which ones".

It's quite possible that there are some people in their 30s/40s walking around today not knowing that they're unvaccinated against polio.

I'm glad my mom kept the card that listed mine, I had all of mine except for small pox. I wonder how children of antivaxxers feel as adults having to get all of their vaccines now as adults? LOL

 

[RileyG]

this is terrifying! Lord have mercy!

 

[MyOwnSockPuppet]

Is there about to be a polio virus outbreak in the UK?

A clear case of Betteridge's Law of Headlines (Any headline that ends in a question mark can be answered by the word no) in action

It's a handful of detections in one treacle mine in a city of ten million, the vast and overwhelming majority of whom have already been vaccinated and the few who aren't are being vaccinated (free of charge, needless to say) very quickly.

 

[sfs]

A clear case of Betteridge's Law of Headlines (Any headline that ends in a question mark can be answered by the word no) in action

It's a handful of detections in one treacle mine in a city of ten million, the vast and overwhelming majority of whom have already been vaccinated and the few who aren't are being vaccinated (free of charge, needless to say) very quickly.

In the case of an infectious disease that has been locally eliminated, a handful of new cases constitutes an outbreak, at least in the language of public health and epidemiology. So yes, there is already an outbreak.

 

[JosephZ]

NY Declares Polio Emergency as Another County Finds Virus in Wastewater

New York Gov. Kathy Hochul declared a state of emergency on Friday as yet another county announced detection of the virus in wastewater samples, a sign the outbreak continues to spread throughout the Empire State.

The governor's declaration came the same day local authorities on Long Island said recent testing of wastewater in Nassau County turned up positive traces of the polio virus. That county joins Rockland, Orange and Sullivan in detecting the virus in sewage samples.

NY Polio Outbreak Spreads to Nassau County; State of Emergency Declared – NBC New York

 

[Aryeh Jay]

I don't remember hearing about polio when Donald Trump was leading America.

 

[Desk trauma]

I don't remember hearing about polio when Donald Trump was leading America.

Biden!!!1!!1

 

[blessedmomof5]

NY Declares Polio Emergency as Another County Finds Virus in Wastewater

New York Gov. Kathy Hochul declared a state of emergency on Friday as yet another county announced detection of the virus in wastewater samples, a sign the outbreak continues to spread throughout the Empire State.

The governor's declaration came the same day local authorities on Long Island said recent testing of wastewater in Nassau County turned up positive traces of the polio virus. That county joins Rockland, Orange and Sullivan in detecting the virus in sewage samples.

NY Polio Outbreak Spreads to Nassau County; State of Emergency Declared – NBC New York

Interesting how all these “old” viruses re-emerged after Covid.
I don’t trust a jab that doesn’t work, I don’t trust Fauci with his Emails he was caught with in talking about if this was His research the gain-a-function?
Someone is doing something to spread these viruses. Monkey pox? Could be the open borders? I all for allowing others into the country, but do it in a sensible way!
Somethings not ok! But God is in Control. I have no fear of man. I keep my eyes upwards!

 

[Nithavela]

Interesting how all these “old” viruses re-emerged after Covid.
I don’t trust a jab that doesn’t work, I don’t trust Fauci with his Emails he was caught with in talking about if this was His research the gain-a-function?
Someone is doing something to spread these viruses. Monkey pox? Could be the open borders? I all for allowing others into the country, but do it in a sensible way!
Somethings not ok! But God is in Control. I have no fear of man. I keep my eyes upwards!

You sound pretty scared to me.