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Spot on.Thank you, Mark. I'm not looking to exclude people either, but to stay within topic.
But to be honest, I'm not sure some people are able to read what you posted above and understand what we mean at all. There is a segment who will see such things as
"Traditions of men" vs. "what Jesus taught"
or
"Tradition" vs "the Bible".
If that's how they understand it, then I understand their need to argue against it.
We would like the feedback and input from the members of this forum on the new SoP that we have written up.
I have a question about the description of traditional. Does the understanding of the ministry factor into this?
Understanding of the ministry, factor in. In other words, do you need to have the 3 fold order, hold a certain opinion on women being ordained, is AS required etc...Could you explain what you mean by the ministry factor? Thanks!
Understanding of the ministry, factor in. In other words, do you need to have the 3 fold order, hold a certain opinion on women being ordained, is AS required etc...
This may or may not be the spot to ask, and if it isn't please point me in the right direction. Because Traditional Theology encompases a wide range of things may we have a forum section devoted to Biblical Theology where only Biblical sources are used in discussions?
Thanks.Hi Keltoi - I believe that most people who request scripture only discussions post the thread under general theology, or one of the topical theology forums. That said, if you don't see a forum that matches what you have in mind, I think there is a "forum request" sub-forum under the MSC forum.
I find the terms 'liberal' and 'conservative' when applied to religion to be things that are designed to pidgeon-hole and they do not always shed light on anything. It's all so neat and tidy, but I'm not that neat and tidy, Don't call me liberal but calling me conservative does not define me. I suspect the word 'traditional', I know the word 'traditional' suffers from the same problem.
Why not just call this forum Theology in the Early Church? Since that is what the definition seems to say it is about. But 'Traditional' will draw nearly everything in - I really think you may be making an awful lot of work for yourselves moderating that.
We don't call it that because that is too narrow. How would we define early Chruch? Where do we draw the line? If we can clarify, great; but we are not going to restrict or limit.I totally agree these terms do not define believers well at all, and I eschew most of them. As you say its not neat and tidy and - if we are christian we serve one Lord and Saviour - Jesus Christ.
Why not just call this forum Theology in the Early Church? since that is what the definition seems to say it is about. But 'Traditional' will draw nearly everything in - I really think you may be making an awful lot of work for yourselves moderating that.
So is it to discuss Liturgy, sacraments, ceremony, ritual and such and the theology behind those across different churches?
Of course I don't have a problem - Sola Scriptura I don't think excluded ceremony and ritual, prayerbooks and such in services.
"Reality is simply far to great to be contained in propositions. That is why man needs gestures, pictures, image, rhythms, metaphor, symbol, and myth. It is also why he needs ceremony, and ritual, customs, and conventions: those ways that perpetuate and mediate the images and symbols to us." Leanne Payne
You'll probably need to dig a bit to find writers who can communicate well the theology in this area - people like Alexander Schmemann, Thomas Howard, Leanne Payne and others.
But I wonder still if these things would not be better discussed under the different community forums that we already have?
But I wonder still if these things would not be better discussed under the different community forums that we already have?
You may do so here:This may or may not be the spot to ask, and if it isn't please point me in the right direction. Because Traditional Theology encompases a wide range of things may we have a forum section devoted to Biblical Theology where only Biblical sources are used in discussions?
I don't think so because the SoP for that forum only says "The primary text of this forum is the Bible." It doesn't say "The only text of this forum is the Bible."You may do so here:
Christian Scriptures
I don't think so because the SoP for that forum only says "The primary text of this forum is the Bible." It doesn't say "The only text of this forum is the Bible."
Good catch on both the spelling and the correct grammar.'s fine by me except for one part - yes I know - I'm very picky at times
picky me would prefer to see :-
- We promise to discuss honourably and in true fairness to all, even those with whom we disagree ; no matter our theological differences.
Hey, MC, good to see you! How have you been doing? We miss you around here!Good catch on both the spelling and the correct grammar.
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