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StormyOne

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You can start with this website, and then look for others like it.... There is an interview there of Alice Brantley, she is my great aunt (my grandmother's sister).....Here is an excerpt
I would say neither Black clergy nor laypersons actually
pushed the start of Regional conferences. To be exact, the

meeting at the Stevenson Hotel was called by the White leaders.

Most of the Black ministers and workers in North America

were asked to attend. For the most part, they didn’t even

know why they were being invited or what this meeting was

all about. So I cannot say that either laypersons or clergy were

pushing the start of Regional conferences. They did not know

that the Regional conferences were going to be organized

when they went to that meeting in Chicago. Regional conferences

were introduced by the General Conference, not the

Black brethren at the time.




http://www.regionalvoice.com/Regional%20Voice.pdf
 
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In the midst of the Black nationalism of the 1920s, several racial incidents shook the church. They became a catalyst for changes that were to follow. James K. Humphrey, a gifted Black minister and founder of the First Harlem SDA Church, was defrocked by conference officials in 1929, principally on the grounds of insubordination. Humphrey, on the other hand, felt the local conference, and church 1eadership in general, ignored the concerns of its Black constituency and practiced discriminatory actions. The issue came to a head when the First Harlem congregation sided with Humphrey and the conference disfellowshipped the entire church.

Perhaps the most well-known racial incident in the church happened in the Washington, D.C. area. Lucy Byard, a gravely ill Black Adventist woman and longtime member from Brooklyn, was admitted to the Washington Sanitarium (1943). When it was discovered that she was Black, the hospital discharged her. During her transfer to the Freedmens Hospital she became increasingly ill and died shortly thereafter of pneumonia. Such incidents caused Black leadership to press the General Conference to address discrimination and prejudice in the church....

http://www.oakwood.edu/ocgoldmine/hdoc/blacksda/roots/ts11.html
 
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Adventist history is similar in regard to racial minorities in the United States. Ellen White's "The Southern Work", which encouraged integrated congregations, was soon allowed to go out of print, and temporary segregation was permitted. A long history of discrimination in admissions to academies and colleges, of no opportunities for promotion of blacks within the church structure, of refusals to treat black patients at white Adventist hospitals, etc., followed, until educated black laypeople held a press conference blowing the whistle at the 1962 General Conference Session in San Francisco (7). Meanwhile, when black pastors had demanded opportunities for promotion to positions in conference offices during World War II, a decision was made to give them instead something they had not requested: separate black conferences in order to prevent them from taking positions where they would be over whites. The Methodists abandoned segregated conferences in the 1950s; Adventists added them in 1944 and still have them.

http://www.atoday.com/211.0.html
 
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statrei said:
I was struck by the claim that the meeting for starting the regional conferences was called by the existing leadership.

My grandparents told of how the church in Columbus use to be intergrated and one week the white leaders met with the black members and told them it was time that they had their own church. The church was split. Several black members left the church when that occurred, including my greatgrandmother's mother, my greatgrand aunt, and her brother.... they never returned.... I mean think of it, they were doing the right thing, meeting as one, and someone deliberately chose to set the church on the path of segregating itself in the U.S. Makes no sense....
 
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StormyOne said:
My grandparents told of how the church in Columbus use to be intergrated and one week the white leaders met with the black members and told them it was time that they had their own church. The church was split. Several black members left the church when that occurred, including my greatgrandmother's mother, my greatgrand aunt, and her brother.... they never returned.... I mean think of it, they were doing the right thing, meeting as one, and someone deliberately chose to set the church on the path of segregating itself in the U.S. Makes no sense....

No, it doesn't.

Believe it or not, I was raised by parents who were brought up in the Appalachian Mountains of Virginia, yet they raised two children who cannot abide discrimination, and don't have a prejudiced bone in their bodies.

My father always talked of how IGNORANT it was, and he simply didn't understand it. In the small coal mining town he and my mother were born and raised in, everything was segregated. As a small child, even though it was no longer in business, I remember the movie theater, and the two separate entrances, with "WHITES" and "BLACKS" signs over each door still readable. At that time, the African American population of this town lived in it's own "backroad" section and it is, to this day, known as "N holler". I can't even say the "N" word, it disgusts me so.

I can remember walking through that section of town and being greeted by all on each side of the street, asked to come in to eat supper by the mom at practically each home, but I would have to politely say "No, my momma is waitin' supper on me, and she'll tan my hide if I'm much later gettin' home"..."..'nother time, then" they'd holler, and I'd grin and say, "for sure". Then I would head on home before I really DID get my hide tanned. I was the only caucasian who could walk that way and not be harrassed. They loved us and we loved them, simply because they were great people, and they thought well of my family, as we thought well of them. Skin color has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH ANYTHING. This is what my parents taught me, while I was living right smack dab in the middle of it. I sure do praise God that they did. It wasn't easy either, my father and mother took a LOT of flack for their belief that all are equal in the eyes of God. For being color blind, and for teaching their children to be as well.

When I see how much energy people exert with hating others simply because their skin is a different color, it amazes me. Especially those who claim that they are Christians, and "God made us all in His image". Well, they're right, He DID create us all in His image...so what's the problem? I simply don't get it, I simply don't.

All I can tell you is that there is no discrimination in my church, itself. If there were, and I couldn't get it remedied, I wouldn't attend. I COULDN'T attend. I would be miserable.
 
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SassySDA said:
It wasn't easy either, my father and mother took a LOT of flack for their belief that all are equal in the eyes of God. For being color blind, and for teaching their children to be as well.
Your parents were not color blind. They were well aware of the difference in color. They just had the heart of humanity and loved justice. It was not an accident. It was a deliberate effort on their part.

I don't trust people who are color blind. God knows what they will do when they stop being color blind.
 
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statrei said:
Your parents were not color blind. They were well aware of the difference in color. They just had the heart of humanity and loved justice. It was not an accident. It was a deliberate effort on their part.

I don't trust people who are color blind. God knows what they will do when they stop being color blind.

For heavens sake, statrei, it's a SAYING. Can't you read even ONE post without having something to pick at?? LOL LOL
 
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Matthew 12:33-37
33"Make a tree good and its fruit will be good, or make a tree bad and its fruit will be bad, for a tree is recognized by its fruit. 34You brood of vipers, how can you who are evil say anything good? For out of the overflow of the heart the mouth speaks. 35The good man brings good things out of the good stored up in him, and the evil man brings evil things out of the evil stored up in him. 36But I tell you that men will have to give account on the day of judgment for every careless word they have spoken. 37For by your words you will be acquitted, and by your words you will be condemned."
 
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