please help

[TricksterWolf]

I recommend you seek professional counseling with a licenced clinical therapist, the kind you cannot receive on Christian Forums.

Trickster

 

[mnbvcxz87]

no honestly it's not about science or religion, it's the effects of the drugs. You have to accept that. Read about what cannabis does to the brain, and you'll relate those effects to what you have gone through. You need to deal with the effects the drugs have had, that's the key. I'd speak to my local doctor...

 

[sidhe]

Actually, the reverse would be true. Religious people claim those suffering from psychosis are possessed. That's a flawed viewpoint.

Again, seek professional psychiatric counseling. It helps. A lot. I don't have my problems much anymore.

Again, religion, diet, etc. has no play in this. Your drug use may have triggered something, but that's past. Go seek professional psychiatric counseling. It works wonders. Deal with the present. Worrying about what causes this isn't as important as dealing with it. Worrying about the eternal state of your soul will distract you from getting the help you need.

Again - seek professional help. Not random voices on an open forum. Find a professional therapist, with good credentials.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

i dont think there is a devil either. i think/hope i had an archetypal experience based on ideas fed into me since birth, but it was a little too weird. and sometimes its like i can spot o ther lost souls in a crowd. sometimes its like they can spot me.

I recommend you seek professional counseling with a licenced clinical therapist, the kind you cannot receive on Christian Forums.

Trickster

Well, he did mention the devil and lost souls and so does our Bible. That is what a "religious" forum is for.

Matthew 23:27 `Woe to you, Scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye are like to whitewashed sepulchres, which outwardly indeed do appear beautiful, and within are full of bones of dead men, and of all uncleanness;

Revelation 18:[SIZE=+2][/SIZE]2 And he cried mightily with a loud voice, saying, "Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and has become a dwelling place of demons, a prison for every foul spirit, and a cage for every unclean and hated bird!.....................13 and cinnamon, and odours, and ointment, and frankincense, and wine, and oil, and fine flour, and wheat, and cattle, and sheep, and of horses, and of chariots, and of bodies and souls of men.

 

[mnbvcxz87]

Lamb I'm sure even more religious passages is very helpful. religious indoctrination is what's caused this in the first place, and you add to it, where is your conscience?

You know what I was taught at school? No older than 13 or 14? I'll tell you, I was taught, as fact, that life is not as it seems and that we are reborn again and again until we discover the true nature of our soul, and our existence (this is jewish kaballah teachings).

You tell me that giving those ideas to a young child isn't pure evil. The mind is still developing and maturing at that age, and you have an authority figure telling you that the world isn't as it seems. That's sick, that's why religious schools should be outlawed entirely.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Lamb I'm sure even more religious passages is very helpful.

When Jesus came to the Jews and Israel, it was a Land of the "Living Dead" so to speak.
Have you ever read the "Valley of the Bones"?

Ezekiel 37:1 The hand of the LORD came upon me and brought me out in the Spirit of the LORD, and set me down in the midst of the valley; and it [was] full of bones. 2 Then He caused me to pass by them all around, and behold, [there were] very many in the open valley; and indeed [they were] very dry. 3 And He said to me, "Son of man, can these bones live?" So I answered, "O Lord GOD, You know."[SIZE=+2].[/SIZE] 11 Then He said to me, "Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel. They indeed say, 'Our bones are dry, our hope is lost, and we ourselves are cut off!'

 

[mnbvcxz87]

No I haven't read valley of the bones, but this thread is about deshadow so let's not take it off point.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

No I haven't read valley of the bones, but this thread is about deshadow so let's not take it off point.

If he came to a religion forum, then that is what I am discussing.
If he wanted non religion special help, he could go to a board/forum specializing in Pschiatry and help with mental disoders.
The fact he brought up the "devil" and the "unpardonable sin" gave me concern that he was brought up with a rather "Unscriptural" view of that entity.
Anyway, I wish him all the best and there are others that can probably give him help outside of "religion" and the Valley of the Bones is an interesting "Story". Peace.

Ezekiel 37:10 So I prophesied as He commanded me, and breath came into them, and they lived, and stood upon their feet, an exceedingly great army.

Reve 11:11 Now after the three-and-a-half days the breath of life from God entered them, and they stood on their feet, and great fear fell on those who saw them.

From post # 2

http://www.kingdombiblestudies.org/savior/SOW14.htm

THE UNPARDONABLE SIN
The Unpardonable Sin
What Is The Sin?
There Is No Unpardonable Sin!
No Forgiveness To The Age
The Day Dawns

What is the sin against the Holy Spirit? In the third chapter of Mark, we have the parallel passage to the text we just read in Matthew, the same record of these men coming around Jesus when they saw Him perform His mighty miracle for the poor man who could neither see nor speak. In order to keep the people from believing Jesus, they said the miracle was performed by the power of Satan.

 

[deshadow]

i am seeing a jungian psychoanalysis. very interesting stuff.

basically for a great part of my life my mind got used to being meanspiritid, negative, irresponsible and lazy, i also cultivated a negative relationship with my parents.

this subconsciously trained parts of my mind to act this way, but another part of me wanted to be calm and gentle, but usually only acted this way when not at home. wen i went home i became irresponsible and lazy and i would let control of myself go becomming angry and argumaentative wit the ones i loved.

after a while and with drug use, i gave parts of my subconscious the opportunity to mess with me, my darkside doesnt really like me, or parts of it dont, becuase they dont ike how i have been acting, i, my eg agrees with this as well. i am retraining mym ind ot be positive ad gentle and make choices and be responsible.

i was also looking for an escape mechanism, so i asked for a devil to start controling me and my subconscious gave me one, its AY MORE complicated, but these are some of the dynamics going on.

 

[mnbvcxz87]

basically for a great part of my life my mind got used to being meanspiritid, negative, irresponsible and lazy, i also cultivated a negative relationship with my parents.

there you go. You've heard of the opinion that someone who takes mushrooms or lcd, the trip will be reflective of their state of mind? If they're happy and positive etc, the trip will be good, if negative, scary etc. Relate that to cannabis, im assuming that's the drug youve been taking.

this subconsciously trained parts of my mind to act this way, but another part of me wanted to be calm and gentle, but usually only acted this way when not at home. wen i went home i became irresponsible and lazy and i would let control of myself go becomming angry and argumaentative wit the ones i loved.

That's why I would that, that the drug has had such a dramatic adverse effect. That's all Im going to stress the drugs, because in my opinion, that's the root of it all, and what needs to be addressed.

after a while and with drug use, i gave parts of my subconscious the opportunity to mess with me, my darkside doesnt really like me, or parts of it dont, becuase they dont ike how i have been acting, i, my eg agrees with this as well. i am retraining mym ind ot be positive ad gentle and make choices and be responsible.

yes drugs again, not using them and eating a natural diet should help in the long run.

i was also looking for an escape mechanism, so i asked for a devil to start controling me and my subconscious gave me one, its AY MORE complicated, but these are some of the dynamics going on.

Drugs again, this slowing down process I referred to is the reason for this

 

[mnbvcxz87]

cannabis is a psychoactive drug, the THC affects brain perception, nervous system, your cerebral

By the way it's affecting the nervous system is also why cannabis is promoted as a pain relief

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

cannabis is a psychoactive drug, the THC affects brain perception, nervous system, your cerebral

By the way it's affecting the nervous system is also why cannabis is promoted as a pain relief

I first started smoking pot after I joined the military in '68 during the war.
I quit smoking it [and drinking as a I was an alcoholic also]after the Lord came into my life in April 2003.

Fortunately I never got into LSD, Mescaline, or the hard drugs which were pretty prevalent in that period of the "Hippie Movement" so to speak.. The pot today appears to have a lot more potency in it than it did back in the "ole days".

 

[Arthra]

deshadow...

Welcome to the Forum.. I just began reading this thread and was away much of the day...but I wanted you to know how imprtant it is to share yourself with others and it is a couragous of you and good thing to do that.

I will personally say prayers for you that you will find the peace and love that God is sending you every day..

There are two kinds of healing also..

One is spiritual and the other is material..and involves following what your therapist recommends so in doing that you are also accepting the healing that God has provided..

- Art

 

[mnbvcxz87]

Yes that's a good point, the THC content is considerably higher these days than it used to be. There are even cannabis grinders which separate the THC, so you can smoke joints of pure THC, it's a recipe for disaster.

 

[TricksterWolf]

Well, he did mention the devil and lost souls and so does our Bible. That is what a "religious" forum is for.

I agree... But that's not all that he mentioned, and sometimes people babbling about religion is symptomatic of other problems that require more immediate attention.

Trickster

 

[sidhe]

Yes that's a good point, the THC content is considerably higher these days than it used to be. There are even cannabis grinders which separate the THC, so you can smoke joints of pure THC, it's a recipe for disaster.

Grinders don't separate out the THC, they just make the marijuana easier to roll into joints. Vaporizers create pure THC, but they're expensive to buy and tricky to make.

As I smoked hand-rolled cigarettes for a while, I've been the roller for my friends before. I, personally, dislike marijuana, but I have no objections to it's use.

My advice is still to not listen to anyone on a forum concerning the issues, and to seek professional help.

 

[mnbvcxz87]

Grinders don't separate out the THC, they just make the marijuana easier to roll into joints. Vaporizers create pure THC, but they're expensive to buy and tricky to make.

As I smoked hand-rolled cigarettes for a while, I've been the roller for my friends before. I, personally, dislike marijuana, but I have no objections to it's use.

Yes...it's a special grinder designed to separate the THC. I also don't think marijuana is particularly bad, only it will affect some people badly, most will be ok with it.

 

[Clark_98C]

I'm really confused. I thought that the perfect seventh chord was "holy" or whatever.

666 in musical terms is an imperfect chord, and 777 is a perfect chord/perfection.

I'm lost.

 

[deshadow]

its ok, i dont mind hearing about the devil and the bible and stuff liek that. it helps me to deal with it all.

well i know there is an interval called devils interval in suleks vox gabrielle and tartinis "devils trill"

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

its ok, i dont mind hearing about the devil and the bible and stuff liek that. it helps me to deal with it all.

well i know there is an interval called devils interval in suleks vox gabrielle and tartinis "devils trill"

I remember one time when I was in the service back in '70 someone spiked the wine with LSD and I didn't know it [I never used it before or after that].

I tripped out bad and somehow ended up in a car with the Devil but I can't remember the conversation, but the next day I was in the hospital, where I spent 3 days. [Btw, I was an ex-catholic at the time].
I have read the Bible through numerous times and it Good News not bad for those that want to see the Light in it. I hope and pray the Lord touches you in the way He touched me almost 4 years ago.

Malachi 3:2 "But who can endure the day of His coming? And who can stand when He appears? For He [is] like a refiner's fire And like launderer's soap.

Reve 19:11 Now I saw heaven opened, and behold, a white horse. And He who sat on him [was] called Faithful and True, and in righteousness He judges and makes war. 12 His eyes [were] like a flame of fire,