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Right. Six states since 2021, all red. But aren't conservatives more concerned about nudity than liberals in general? That conservatives are writing "bathroom bills" is not surprising.
Another poster who defended the "right" of "trans children" to take puberty blockers and hormones had a similar response when I asked if he would put his 9yo daughter on these medications if she came home from school and claimed she was a boy after learning about these concepts at school...
His answer was along the lines of "well I don't know if I'd do that to my daughter".
No, you’re totally unaware of how laws work in the US. That’s ok, but you can’t confuse what you don’t know as a fact, lol.Then you are not following the laws of your own country. Worse still you're attached to a police department. Remember he is not a trans or queer. Bathroom bill is in total effect for him. If anyone in my country try to pull this stun they are definitely getting arrested. Oppies is not a valid reason.
LoL! Dude, you should read it. That explains the concept, then explains it’s not “the law of the United States” and that only 6 states have tried to enact versions, all were challenged, and they have tenuous constitutionality. Then it goes on to list a ton of data on how transgender people in the bathroom of their identity does not lead to higher, but actually in some cases lower, violent crimes. On top of that, it doesn’t override provisions in place for emergency access due to health needs.No You didn't read it properly. Whatever provision made is only for the non-hetero. Any hetero still falls under the bathroom bill.
Sorry, I can accept the person without accepting their so-called identity. Simple.You know, for all the back-and-forth we’ve had over the years about this scenario, I’ve never once thought about having to call the police to take care of this, a purely social issue.
Yet, somehow they’re not “second-class-citizens”?
Interesting.
If we can’t accommodate the 0.6% of the people so “afflicted”, maybe our society isn’t worth living in?
How does that play out during interactions with such people?Sorry, I can accept the person without accepting their so-called identity. Simple.
If only they’d leave “normal people” alone
Just so we are clear, you want me to link you the article that is the first post in this thread and made by you and is the basis of the whole discussion, to reply to a post of yours that literally says “I didn't originally watch the video attached to the article” but proceeds to make assumptions about what happened anyway…?
Not only do you acknowledge the video is there
Are you saying you think there is zero difference between the employee of a gym walking out of a bathroom he had to use
Because sneaking around to peek at naked women is creepy
In any case one's expectation of privacy in one's bedroom with the shades drawn is rather different from that in a public locker room.
Was the individual at Planet Fitness hiding and peeking out at naked women unbeknownst to them?
Or did he just rush to use the toilet and happen to catch a glimpse of a naked woman?
My point, (such as it is) is that this is a societal issue, and should be dealt with in a societal venue; marshaling the government (for either side) is a bad move, since laws are meant to impinge of individual rights.Your snide remark about leaving "normal people" alone is more revealing than you intended. Yeah, they should leave normal people alone. This is the US...I'll do my thing, you'll do your thing, and we all play by the same rules. At no point are you required to do as I say, and I don't have to do as you say, and it all works out.
Just treat them well, like anyone else. No problem at all.How does that play out during interactions with such people?
(I mean, it’s fine that you hold this opinion, there’s nothing wrong about that, but during actual encounters with transgender folk, doesn’t it get in the way?)
Yes, I understand what you’re saying. About 20+ years ago, my dad and I accidentally used a woman’s restroom at a movie theatre.And eating a salad and eating a steak are both still eating, but that doesn’t make them a comparable meal. The expectation of privacy in one’s home and bathroom by the general public is lightyears different than the expectation of privacy in a public space.
Ultimately, the guy had every right to be there as he works there and when one changes openly in a locker room, one expects they will be seen by others. She just didn’t expect to be seen by him. I can appreciate that on her part, but she is attributing malice to what was likely somebody’s overactive colon and ignoring what is also his reasonable expectation to not have to soil himself publicly while at work.
If you’ve never had to dive into the first bathroom you see because of a GI or urinary issue, God bless you, you’re a lucky soul. Or if you’ve never used the opposite genders bathroom, deliberately or accidentally, again, God bless you. But for the rest of us, we can absolutely think of times where we went to the first available and hoped for the best. And it used to be either you weren’t seen so no harm, no foul, or you were and both parties silently acknowledged the awkwardness or mutual embarrassment and recognized that accidents happen or bodily functions don’t always cooperate, and everybody goes about their day.
I bet you beyond all shadow of a doubt, he wanted to see her as little or even less than she wanted to be seen and any embarrassment she feels is eclipsed by the fact that his need to deuce has been analyzed by his co-workers, his boss, the regional boss, corporate, and the internet.
Yet, wishJust treat them well, like anyone else. No problem at all.
People can have mental illnesses. People can be pushy and demanding.Yet, wishthey weren’t there, didn’t exist, forgive me but I’m really having trouble wrapping my mind around your various statements: I’ve seen you call transgender people all manner of (arguably) pejorative things, “mentally ill“, “pushy”, “demanding”…yet are gracious to them when out-and-about?
Curious.
All transgender people are “mentally ill”?People can have mental illnesses. People can be pushy and demanding.
How is that pejorative?
Good grief.
There is compassion. Saying someone has a mental illness isn’t hateful or bigoted.All transgender people are “mentally ill”?
(Maybe 200 years ago they’d’ve had a “demon”? Or witchcraft?)
I’m glad that you’re able to have some level of compassion, even though it’s scant.
While I agree “it’s all in their heads”, I differ in that they’ve got brains that are certain that the body they’re housed in should have a vulva but instead sports a penis, (or vice versa).There is compassion. Saying someone has a mental illness isn’t hateful or bigoted.
But there are neutral encounters in our society (workplaces, schools) where saying that to a trans person would be considered hateful and bigoted. It is not your place, even as a Christian, to offer your diagnosis to a stranger.There is compassion. Saying someone has a mental illness isn’t hateful or bigoted.
If I’m not mistaken quoting someone in another thread other than the one they posted in is called “calling out “ and it’s against the rulesI was on that thread and that’s not all what was said. You’re being extremely disingenuous and if you’re using that person and their statements about their family as an example to boost you and insult them, you should have the decency to tag them.
You absolutely can’t claim moral high ground when you misquote what a person said about their family and kids in order to try to bolster your baseless assumption then exclude them so they can’t defend themselves and your trash talk can be unchallenged. It’s a cheap shot I’m sure you wouldn’t appreciate done to you or your family.
Some aren't mentally ill. Some have autogynaphelia and some are just perverts.All transgender people are “mentally ill”?
(Maybe 200 years ago they’d’ve had a “demon”? Or witchcraft?)
I’m glad that you’re able to have some level of compassion, even though it’s scant.
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