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For the measurements from the bible to be correct Pi must equal 3. However it is evident in real life that Pi does not equal 3. Thus the bible is in error... or a scribe was sloppy with his math.
I thought this was an old one?
I thought this was an old one?
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KleinerApfel
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Do the measureements change for the inside and the outside of the bowl?
It must have been very thick, so I would expect a large difference in the two measurements. Any help?
Just wondering, but I hate maths so don't get too complicated with me!
Blessings, Susana
It must have been very thick, so I would expect a large difference in the two measurements. Any help?
Just wondering, but I hate maths so don't get too complicated with me!
Blessings, Susana
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Hmm... The last time I checked, the Bible is not a maths textbook. 
Besides, you don't expect the scribe to be able to give the exact number, would you? (which is imposible, given that Pi is an irrational number)
Besides, you don't expect the scribe to be able to give the exact number, would you? (which is imposible, given that Pi is an irrational number)
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Christos Anesti! Christ is Risen!
2 Chronicles 4:2-5
2 He made the Sea of cast metal, circular in shape, measuring ten cubits from rim to rim and five cubits high. It took a line of thirty cubits to measure around it. 3 Below the rim, figures of bulls encircled it-ten to a cubit. The bulls were cast in two rows in one piece with the Sea.
4 The Sea stood on twelve bulls, three facing north, three facing west, three facing south and three facing east. The Sea rested on top of them, and their hindquarters were toward the center. 5 It was a handbreadth in thickness, and its rim was like the rim of a cup, like a lily blossom. It held three thousand baths.
If the 10 cubits is the outside diameter and you subtract two handbreadths for the inner diameter, then the resulting inner circumference is almost exactly 30 cubits. Pretty accurate if you ask me
John.
2 Chronicles 4:2-5
2 He made the Sea of cast metal, circular in shape, measuring ten cubits from rim to rim and five cubits high. It took a line of thirty cubits to measure around it. 3 Below the rim, figures of bulls encircled it-ten to a cubit. The bulls were cast in two rows in one piece with the Sea.
4 The Sea stood on twelve bulls, three facing north, three facing west, three facing south and three facing east. The Sea rested on top of them, and their hindquarters were toward the center. 5 It was a handbreadth in thickness, and its rim was like the rim of a cup, like a lily blossom. It held three thousand baths.
If the 10 cubits is the outside diameter and you subtract two handbreadths for the inner diameter, then the resulting inner circumference is almost exactly 30 cubits. Pretty accurate if you ask me
John.
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KleinerApfel
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prodromos said:Christos Anesti! Christ is Risen!
If the 10 cubits is the outside diameter and you subtract two handbreadths for the inner diameter, then the resulting inner circumference is almost exactly 30 cubits. Pretty accurate if you ask me
John.
Hey! Thanks for that - I thought you mathematicians might laugh at my suggestion, but looks like I'm on track for once!
Blessings, Susana
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John 6:19 "So when they had rowed about five and twenty or thirty furlongs, they see Jesus walking on the sea, and drawing nigh unto the ship: and they were afraid."
Here John is saying that they rowed 25 or 30 furlongs.
It is not that important to our salvation if it was 25 or 30.
The same with the measurement. No big deal at all.
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KleinerApfel
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Symes said:
I guess you're right, but it's interesting. I wonder why the OP asked about it in the first place?
Blessings Susana
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IMO, measurements are sometimes important:Symes said:
1 Kings 6
24 And five cubits was the one wing of the cherub, and five cubits the other wing of the cherub: from the uttermost part of the one wing unto the uttermost part of the other were ten cubits.
25 And the other cherub was ten cubits: both the cherubims were of one measure and one size.
26 The height of the one cherub was ten cubits, and so was it of the other cherub.
Ezekiel 40
5 And behold a wall on the outside of the house round about, and in the man's hand a measuring reed of six cubits long by the cubit and an hand breadth: so he measured the breadth of the building, one reed; and the height, one reed.
6 Then came he unto the gate which looketh toward the east, and went up the stairs thereof, and measured the threshold of the gate, which was one reed broad; and the other threshold of the gate, which was one reed broad.
7 And every little chamber was one reed long, and one reed broad; and between the little chambers were five cubits; and the threshold of the gate by the porch of the gate within was one reed.
Actually the rest of Ezekiel as well...
Zechariah 2
1 I lifted up mine eyes again, and looked, and behold a man with a measuring line in his hand.
2 Then said I, Whither goest thou? And he said unto me, To measure Jerusalem, to see what is the breadth thereof, and what is the length thereof.
3 And, behold, the angel that talked with me went forth, and another angel went out to meet him,
Revelation 11
1 And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein.
2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.
Revelation 21
15 And he that talked with me had a golden reed to measure the city, and the gates thereof, and the wall thereof.
16 And the city lieth foursquare, and the length is as large as the breadth: and he measured the city with the reed, twelve thousand furlongs. The length and the breadth and the height of it are equal.
17 And he measured the wall thereof, an hundred and forty and four cubits, according to the measure of a man, that is, of the angel.
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And would you care to inform us why any of these measurements - most of which are from sections of the Bible which are highly symbolic in nature, and are therefore not meant to be taken literally - actually makes any difference to their meaning whatsoever, or affects any major doctrine of the Christian church?
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In Greek π' stands for 80. In mathematics, nowadays, π is 3.14….. What does this have to do with the passage cited? There is no π there.
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In the Bible there are some measurements that were important. Such when God gave the pattern for the sanctuary to be built.
But not the case of what is being talked about here.
It just is not that important. There must be more important things to talk about that is in God's Word than what this topic is about.
But not the case of what is being talked about here.
It just is not that important. There must be more important things to talk about that is in God's Word than what this topic is about.
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It is infalible as far as our salvation is concerned. This line of thinking you are trying to bring to us here is not important to our salvation.
Remember it was written by men who were not infalible. In most cases inspirartion is thought and not word.
When God wanted it word inspired He wrote the ten commandments on rock with His own hand.
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KleinerApfel
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prodromos said:Christos Anesti! Christ is Risen!
2 Chronicles 4:2-5
2 He made the Sea of cast metal, circular in shape, measuring ten cubits from rim to rim and five cubits high. It took a line of thirty cubits to measure around it. 3 Below the rim, figures of bulls encircled it-ten to a cubit. The bulls were cast in two rows in one piece with the Sea.
4 The Sea stood on twelve bulls, three facing north, three facing west, three facing south and three facing east. The Sea rested on top of them, and their hindquarters were toward the center. 5 It was a handbreadth in thickness, and its rim was like the rim of a cup, like a lily blossom. It held three thousand baths.
If the 10 cubits is the outside diameter and you subtract two handbreadths for the inner diameter, then the resulting inner circumference is almost exactly 30 cubits. Pretty accurate if you ask me
John.
Still looks like the best answer to me. What exactly is this all about anyway?
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