We do...others don't.
Er...whoah. Stop. Major over-simplification, misuse of terminology and semantics alert. In terms of general relativity - photons traveling at C don't experience time; to the photon, it is effectively traveling a null geodesic path of length 0. This sounds pretty wacky, but it's true, and to show why and to be complete we'd have to delve headlong into differential geometry, and if you thought I was verbose before...well, let's not go there.
Er...what? The information sent over wifi isn't eternal, since the photons can be disrupted at any time. You're misusing the term 'information'.
Bzzzzz. Wrong. You're going wrong because you are placing relative values in things depending on your (or others) opinions - for example, the monetary and usefulness of information. Let's think about hard drives, since how CDs and CDrs work is a little different (one uses manufactured pits and notches within the surface, the other uses dyes that turn opaque when exposed to a particular laser, and the picture is thus a little more complicated...again).
Imagine that the whole hard drive (where data is expressed in terms of magnetic domains) can be expressed as 10 numbers - it's many millions more but...let's boil it down to
"blank" hard drive (or "full" depending on how you look at it, but...never mind)
0000000000
The written hard drive therefore might be
0100110101
Now...you may value that information more when you put it your hard drive, but in PHYSICAL terms - i.e. pertaining to physics, there is really no more information on the disk than there was before...just the magnetic states have changed.
Information seems to require mass or its equivalent, energy - to be expressed, to exist. A binary system is the lowest system from which any information can be theoretically expressed, so let's continue to think in terms of 0's and 1's. To partition between 0 and 1 in any state requires energy, because of Landauer's principle, and because of this all expressions of information requires energy, and energy and mass are equivalent. There is a minimum amount of energy per bit of information that must be transferred to transfer information (per Shannon's work on information theory), and special relativity tells us that if energy is transferred from one system to another - so is mass.
So your statement is irrelevant. It's a nice idea to be able to separate information from mass and energy, but it's not founded in reality.
Nah, you just sound crazy.
Just kidding. You're making the kind of common mistake that the colossal majority of humans make when we examine the world around us - and mistake that won't even ever bother most of us in any way.
We see things on our level and when you start to try and figure out the quantum level, the parameters and rules change entirely, something that Einstein figured out that Newton couldn't have in his day. What you can't then do is take quantum and sub-atomic theories and observations, and try and prove supernatural things with them...
I am learning a lot, but I think you are missing the quantum side of things, here is a video I found with some links below it.....
they said this:
Researchers Succeed in Quantum Teleportation of Light Waves - April 2011
Excerpt: In this experiment, researchers in Australia and Japan were able to transfer quantum information from one place to another without having to physically move it. It was destroyed in one place and instantly resurrected in another, alive again and unchanged. This is a major advance, as previous teleportation experiments were either very slow or caused some information to be lost.
Researchers Succeed in Quantum Teleportation of Light Waves | Popular Science
It is also very interesting to note that the quantum state of a photon is actually defined as 'infinite information' in its uncollapsed quantum wave state:
Quantum Computing - Stanford Encyclopedia
Excerpt: Theoretically, a single qubit can store an infinite amount of information, yet when measured (and thus collapsing the Quantum Wave state) it yields only the classical result (0 or 1),,,
Quantum Computing (Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy)
Explaining Information Transfer in Quantum Teleportation: Armond Duwell University of Pittsburgh
Excerpt: In contrast to a classical bit, the description of a (photon) qubit requires an infinite amount of information. The amount of information is infinite because two real numbers are required in the expansion of the state vector of a two state quantum system (Jozsa 1997, 1) --- Concept 2. is used by Bennett, et al. Recall that they infer that since an infinite amount of information is required to specify a (photon) qubit, an infinite amount of information must be transferred to teleport.
http://www.cas.umt.edu/phil/faculty/duwell/DuwellPSA2K.pdf
It should be noted in the preceding paper that Duwell, though he never challenges the mathematical definition of a photon qubit as infinite information, tries to refute Bennett's interpretation of infinite information transfer in quantum teleportation because of what he believes are 'time constraints' which would prohibit teleporting 'backwards in time'. Yet Duwell fails to realize that information is its own completely unique transcendent entity, completely separate from any energy-matter, space-time, constraints in the first place.
Quantum no-hiding theorem experimentally confirmed for first time
Excerpt: In the classical world, information can be copied and deleted at will. In the quantum world, however, the conservation of quantum information means that information cannot be created nor destroyed. This concept stems from two fundamental theorems of quantum mechanics: the no-cloning theorem and the no-deleting theorem. A third and related theorem, called the no-hiding theorem, addresses information loss in the quantum world. According to the no-hiding theorem, if information is missing from one system (which may happen when the system interacts with the environment), then the information is simply residing somewhere else in the Universe; in other words, the missing information cannot be hidden in the correlations between a system and its environment. (This experiment provides experimental proof that the teleportation of quantum information in this universe must be complete and instantaneous.)
Quantum no-hiding theorem experimentally confirmed for first time
Physicists describe method to observe timelike entanglement - January 2011
Excerpt: In "ordinary" quantum entanglement, two particles possess properties that are inherently linked with each other, even though the particles may be spatially separated by a large distance. Now, physicists S. Jay Olson and Timothy C. Ralph from the University of Queensland have shown that it's possible to create entanglement between regions of spacetime that are separated in time but not in space, and then to convert the timelike entanglement into normal spacelike entanglement. They also discuss the possibility of using this timelike entanglement from the quantum vacuum for a process they call "teleportation in time." "To me, the exciting aspect of this result (that entanglement exists between the future and past) is that it is quite a general property of nature and opens the door to new creativity, since we know that entanglement can be viewed as a resource for quantum technology," Olson told PhysOrg.com.
Physicists describe method to observe timelike entanglement
It should also be noted that the preceding experiments pretty much dots all the i's and crosses all the t's as far as concretely establishing 'transcendent information' as its own unique entity. Its own unique entity that is completely separate from, and dominate of, space-time, matter and energy.
More supporting evidence for the transcendent nature of information, and how it interacts with energy, is found in these following studies:
Single photons to soak up data:
Excerpt: the orbital angular momentum of a photon can take on an infinite number of values. Since a photon can also exist in a superposition of these states, it could in principle be encoded with an infinite amount of information.
http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/7201
Ultra-Dense Optical Storage - on One Photon
Excerpt: Researchers at the University of Rochester have made an optics breakthrough that allows them to encode an entire image's worth of data into a photon, slow the image down for storage, and then retrieve the image intact.
Ultra-Dense Optical Storage -- on One Photon
This following experiment clearly shows information is not an 'emergent property' of any solid material basis as is dogmatically asserted by some Darwinian materialists:
Converting Quantum Bits: Physicists Transfer Information Between Matter and Light
Excerpt: A team of physicists at the Georgia Institute of Technology has taken a significant step toward the development of quantum communications systems by successfully transferring quantum information from two different groups of atoms onto a single photon.
Physicists transfer information between matter and light, first step for quantum networking
The following articles show that even atoms (Ions) are subject to teleportation:
Of note: An ion is an atom or molecule in which the total number of electrons is not equal to the total number of protons, giving it a net positive or negative electrical charge.
Ions have been teleported successfully for the first time by two independent research groups
Excerpt: In fact, copying isn't quite the right word for it. In order to reproduce the quantum state of one atom in a second atom, the original has to be destroyed. This is unavoidable - it is enforced by the laws of quantum mechanics, which stipulate that you can't 'clone' a quantum state. In principle, however, the 'copy' can be indistinguishable from the original (that was destroyed),,,
http://www.rsc.org/chemistryworld/Issues/2004/October/beammeup.asp
Atom takes a quantum leap - 2009
Excerpt: Ytterbium ions have been 'teleported' over a distance of a metre.,,,
"What you're moving is information, not the actual atoms," says Chris Monroe, from the Joint Quantum Institute at the University of Maryland in College Park and an author of the paper. But as two particles of the same type differ only in their quantum states, the transfer of quantum information is equivalent to moving the first particle to the location of the second.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2171769/posts
The weight of mass becomes infinite at the speed of light, thus mass will never go the speed of light. Yet, mass would disappear from our sight if it could go the speed of light, because, from our non-speed of light perspective, distance in direction of travel will shrink to zero for the mass going the speed of light. Whereas conversely, if mass could travel at the speed of light, its size will stay the same while all other frames of reference not traveling the speed of light will disappear from its sight.
Special Relativity - Time Dilation and Length Contraction - video
Relativity - The Train Paradox (Time Dilation and Length Contraction) - YouTube
Moreover time, as we understand it, would come to a complete stop at the speed of light. To grasp the whole 'time coming to a complete stop at the speed of light' concept a little more easily, imagine moving away from the face of a clock at the speed of light. Would not the hands on the clock stay stationary as you moved away from the face of the clock at the speed of light? Moving away from the face of a clock at the speed of light happens to be the same 'thought experiment' that gave Einstein his breakthrough insight into e=mc2.
Albert Einstein - Special Relativity - Insight Into Eternity - 'thought experiment' video
Albert Einstein - Special Relativity - Insight Into Eternity - Video
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Time Dilation - General and Special Relativity - Chuck Missler - Video
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