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The astounding and manifold differences are recorded, both for the past and the future. How sweet it is!
Sorry, you've failed. Your favourite book, the very word of your god (apparently), fails to mention anything about your pet theory of all the physical laws in the universe changing 5000 years ago.
Just about anywhere things were recorded. The flood, the garden, etc etc. We do not live with spirits now, or have trees that grow in weeks, or see continent sized mass move without great heat, or live many many many many centuries..etc.Where?
Dad - are you using 2 Peter 2 to defend your idea?
4 For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell,[a] putting them in chains of darkness to be held for judgment; 5 if he did not spare the ancient world when he brought the flood on its ungodly people, but protected Noah, a preacher of righteousness, and seven others; 6 if he condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah by burning them to ashes, and made them an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly; 7 and if he rescued Lot, a righteous man, who was distressed by the depraved conduct of the lawless 8 (for that righteous man, living among them day after day, was tormented in his righteous soul by the lawless deeds he saw and heard) 9 if this is so, then the Lord knows how to rescue the godly from trials and to hold the unrighteous for punishment on the day of judgment. 10 This is especially true of those who follow the corrupt desire of the flesh[c] and despise authority.
If you are using these verses, then we may almost agree. I take this verse as pretty strong indication that anything flood related, and before... is some kind of mythical "ancient world" that never actually existed but formed a common prehistory for the people of Israel. Yes, S&G and Lot are included with Noah and his sons.
No. Jesus also said this..The character Lot seems to be a back story to explain Israel's perception of the Moabites.
Lot, and the story of S&G, ends at the end of Gen 19. The comparison between Lot and Abraham seems to serve a similar function as the comparison between Saul and David.
Either way, the story from here on is set up to show that Abraham is the patriarch of Israel - for good reason.
Just about anywhere things were recorded. The flood, the garden, etc etc. We do not live with spirits now, or have trees that grow in weeks, or see continent sized mass move without great heat, or live many many many many centuries..etc.
So again you admit the bible doesn't say that all the physical laws in the universe changed 5000 years ago.
Not really. The calendar is set to that.The biggest news in history just missing from your favourite book.
It says a lot of things about life that could not happen in this nature. There is also some parts that may allude to the nature change. There are also parts that tell of a universe change in the future. One cannot deny that this state is temporal.
Not really. The calendar is set to that.
That is all supposition. Nowhere does it say that all the physical laws in the whole universe changed 5000 years ago as you do. If true, this would merit a chapter to itself from even the most slipshod of authors. It would hardly be omitted. Your book omits it. You've defeated yourself. It happens repeatedly.
That is fine. If you believe the book describes a nature that is the same as today, be my guest! We might ask you how waters were separated from land in creation week without heat being created to kill life? How did men live 980 years? How trees grow to fruition in weeks? How did angels marry women? Unless you can explain this you have failed. How could all this and more happen in this present state world??
Hoo ha!
That is fine. If you believe the book describes a nature that is the same as today, be my guest!
We might ask you how waters were separated from land in creation week without heat being created to kill life?
How did men live 980 years?
How trees grow to fruition in weeks?
How did angels marry women?
Unless you can explain this you have failed. How could all this and more happen in this present state world?
It does tell us that the differences existed, and we now know that the differences are too big to fit into this nature. There are other clues, but I have no intention of discussing them with an unbeliever, thanks.And the bible doesn't tell you. Quite an oversight from the authors!
Nope. They still walk, but I don't see them living together and marrying, do you? Like us, spirits have laws. At this time, the laws on earth do not allow the same sort of direct mingling. Yes angels are around, usually we are unaware of them. Demons are around, but we do not see them parading on the street, unless it is in some person or etc.What you've got there is a book where Gods, angels, demons, etc., tended to walk among us and used their powers to alter nature's laws would do so arbitrarily.
It requires contact. We also see that at the time of Babel, mankind knew of a spiritual level not so high above earth. I don't see one now...you?What's so big about getting married, anyway?
Never happen.It's easy if you believe in a God who can change the world -- those who don't, need the world to change itself.
Nope. They still walk, but I don't see them living together and marrying, do you?
Like us, spirits have laws. At this time, the laws on earth do not allow the same sort of direct mingling.
Yes angels are around, usually we are unaware of them. Demons are around, but we do not see them parading on the street, unless it is in some person or etc.
It requires contact. We also see that at the time of Babel, mankind knew of a spiritual level not so high above earth. I don't see one now...you?
It would look like people touching and having sex.What would it look like if they did -- do you know?
According to who? You?
Face the facts, if you claim an angel is on your shoulder I would think you were nuts.Show me the law that says they are unable to do this.
So they've changed tactics -- where once they acted openly, now they're "in the closet," as it were.
If you bothered to read your Bible, you'd see that they also acted covertly at times in the past, when only a select few people were astute enough to recognize them -- clearly from your assertion that they are no longer visible, you're not such a person.
I see it everywhere I look -- you keep looking up in the sky for something that's right in front of you.
I'd feel sorry for such blindness, but you make it too amusing to watch.
It does tell us that the differences existed
The bible authors thought they were describing things that were entirely plausible. If they hadn't they would have mentioned that all the laws in the physical universe suddenly changed 5000 years ago, but they didn't., and we now know that the differences are too big to fit into this nature.
Lol, clues? Clues which you won't share because they're so laughable. The reason you don't want to discuss it is because you made the fundamental mistake of stating that all the physical laws changed 5000 years ago, without thinking about the glaring problem that your favourite book, the book you base your entire fantasy world on, doesn't know anything about it. Here's a gun, dad, there's your foot. Happy shooting.There are other clues, but I have no intention of discussing them with an unbeliever, thanks.
It would look like people touching and having sex.
You thought heaven was lawless!!!!!?? Or hell?
Face the facts, if you claim an angel is on your shoulder I would think you were nuts.
No, more than that. I do not see in the closet marriages or babies from angels..you?
How covertly was the angel guarding the way to the tree of life acting?
No idea why you are conflating states here!? The past is past and the present is now. It is not one size fits all.
Call us when you come down to earth I guess.
Some think they see, but are blind. I prefer to go by how close they are to God's navigation system of His word to man. His word lights our way, and gives us eyes to see and ears to hear. Top that!
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