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Philosophical arguments against the existence of God

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The propositions, "God exists" and "imperfections in the world exist", are not explicitly contradictory. Do you understand what the term "explicitly contradictory" means?

Right...when you wrote this, I mentioned that you left some important things out.

The fact that my argument originally defines god as a "perfect creator" and my definition for "perfect".

Once you include those things, which was part of my original argument...you can see that the two concepts of...

1. A perfect creator god exists.
And...
2. Imperfections in the world exist.

...are explicitly contradictory.
 
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Right...when you wrote this, I mentioned that you left some important things out.

The fact that my argument originally defines god as a "perfect creator" and my definition for "perfect".

Once you include those things, which was part of my original argument...you can see that the two concepts of...

1. A perfect creator god exists.
And...
2. Imperfections in the world exist.

...are explicitly contradictory.

No they are not.

For the explicit contradiction of (1) is not "imperfections in the world exist", but rather "a perfect creator god does not exist".

And the explicit contradiction of (2) is not "a perfect creator god exists", but rather "imperfections in the world do not exist".

Seems you have a misunderstanding of what an explicit contradiction is.
 
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No they are not.

For the explicit contradiction of (1) is not "imperfections in the world exist", but rather "a perfect creator god does not exist".

And the explicit contradiction of (2) is not "a perfect creator god exists", but rather "imperfections in the world do not exist".

Seems you have a misunderstanding of what an explicit contradiction is.

Those would be opposites...not necessarily contradictions.

Regardless, if you don't think they are contradictory...explain why.
 
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Those would be opposites...not necessarily contradictions.

Regardless, if you don't think they are contradictory...explain why.

What you refer to as opposites are "explicit contradictions".

It is not my argument. I am not making the claim that the propositions "God exists" and the proposition "an imperfect world exists" are logically contradictory in that they are explicitly contradictory. You are making that claim.

Shifting the burden over to me, is fallacious.

Ref. https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/burden-of-proof
 
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What you refer to as opposites are "explicit contradictions".

It is not my argument. I am not making the claim that the propositions "God exists" and the proposition "an imperfect world exists" are logically contradictory in that they are explicitly contradictory. You are making that claim.

Shifting the burden over to me, is fallacious.

Ref. https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/burden-of-proof

I explained my claim through a series of logical steps...

If you think they're wrong, explain why.
 
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I explained my claim through a series of logical steps...

If you think they're wrong, explain why.

Ref. my post where I explained why the two propositions you claimed were explicitly contradictory are not.
 
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Ref. my post where I explained why the two propositions you claimed were explicitly contradictory are not.

Lol that post doesn't exist yet...and I have serious doubts about whether it ever will. Let me try to simplify the argument for you...

1. We've defined perfect as "without flaw".

2. The existence of a flaw draws the necessary conclusion of a lack of perfection.

Therefore, a creation without flaws is perfect...a creation with flaws is not.

This seems to be your stumbling block...so hopefully it clears up whatever issue you're having.
 
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Do I need to explain to you why a creator who makes flawed creations is himself imperfect?

I assumed you understood that much...but maybe that's my mistake. I can hold your hand and walk you through this argument step by step if needed.
 
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Ref. my post where I explained why the two propositions you claimed were explicitly contradictory are not.

Guess what? I'll explain why a creator god who makes a flawed creation is logically flawed himself...just so you can be all up to speed on this argument.

I'll use our "flawed message" example here to stay consistent.

If a creator god creates an inefficient (flawed) message...he would then himself be logically less efficient than a creator god who makes a perfect (unflawed) message. The nature of the flaw in the creator god is directly related to the nature of the flaw in his creation...but don't think too hard about that. I don't want you getting all confused.

It's only one logical step lol...but if you need me to repeat it, I'll be more than happy to. It's a bit like saying 81 degrees is logically hotter than 80 degrees...which is why I didn't include this in my original premises. I guess what is obviously self evident to me is quandary wrapped in an enigma to you.

So there you have it, between this post and my previous two posts how logically...

1. A perfect creator god only makes perfect creations.

And...

2. A flawed creation cannot logically come from a perfect creator god.

Do you need me to go back and tie this into the original argument for you?
 
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Guess what? I'll explain why a creator god who makes a flawed creation is logically flawed himself...just so you can be all up to speed on this argument.

This would be a different argument though. You aren't moving goalposts are you? ;)

I'll use our "flawed message" example here to stay consistent.

If a creator god creates an inefficient (flawed) message...he would then himself be logically less efficient than a creator god who makes a perfect (unflawed) message. The nature of the flaw in the creator god is directly related to the nature of the flaw in his creation...but don't think too hard about that. I don't want you getting all confused.

It's only one logical step lol...but if you need me to repeat it, I'll be more than happy to. It's a bit like saying 81 degrees is logically hotter than 80 degrees...which is why I didn't include this in my original premises. I guess what is obviously self evident to me is quandary wrapped in an enigma to you.

So there you have it, between this post and my previous two posts how logically...

1. A perfect creator god only makes perfect creations.

And...

2. A flawed creation cannot logically come from a perfect creator god.

Do you need me to go back and tie this into the original argument for you?

I get what you are thinking and to an extent I think you are right.

Let me explain what I mean.

You and I agree that the world is far from what we would consider perfect. The nature of the Bible as a divine work has been disputed for centuries. Evil, suffering, pain, and disease exist and are real. If we agree these things are real, then whatever worldview we hold, it must at minimum, deal with these issues head-on, without denying their reality.

These observations would lead some to conclude that this world is not the best possible world, i.e. that there is a conceivable world wherein God's word is not disputed, there is no evil, no pain, and no disease, etc. etc. and that this world is not it.

Some would argue that if God existed and He decided to create a world, He would have to have created the best possible world and since this obviously is not the best possible world, then this means that God did not create it, and that this spells doom for the Christian, such as myself, for I maintain God did create the world.

We see this train of thought in the proposition you provided, namely the proposition, A flawed creation cannot logically come from a perfect creator god.

If this is true, then I am in big trouble, for I as a Christian, maintain that God is perfect and creator of the actual world.

Am I as much trouble as it would seem I am?

No. For the assumption underlying the argument is that being perfect entails being able to actualize a world wherein significantly free moral agents never commit evil, never dispute God's revelation, never inflict pain upon one another, and never bring about any state of affairs that could be properly labeled defective i.e. a departure from that perfect will of a perfect creator God.

You see, both you and I observe on a daily basis, events and particular states of affairs which support the hypothesis that human beings are free moral agents. The degree to which we are free may indeed be the subject of much debate, but that we are in some morally significant sense, free, is something our observations would seem to support. We maintain, and observe those around us maintaining that people in general, regardless of ethnicity, gender, socio-economic status, beliefs etc., are culpable, moral agents with the capacity for making moral judgments and in virtue of this are either deserving of being praised for the exercise of virtue, or reprimanded for the exercise of vice.

Whatever worldview we hold, therefore must at minimum, also deal with this notion of moral culpability head-on and not deny its reality.

This raises the question, namely: could God actualize a world wherein as much or more good is achieved than is achieved in this world with as many or more free moral agents as is in this actual world? It may very well be that in every world God would actualize wherein free moral agents exist, that there are humans in said worlds who freely choose to do evil, or dispute God's revelation to mankind, or maliciously inflict pain upon each other etc.

Perfection does not entail being able to force someone to do something freely anymore than it entails being able to make a married bachelor or a round square.

So when I maintain that God is all-powerful, or all-knowing, or all-loving, these superlative attributes are intended to describe God as a maximally great being or a perfect being. Not a being who can do the logically impossible.

As a Christian, I of course hold that there is a lot God cannot do.

From these observations, Christianity is a worldview which attempts to account for the existence of evil and suffering and pain, in addition to our observations that human beings are in some morally significant way, free. When compared with competing worldviews, Christianity at minimum lends itself to sincere and thoughtful consideration.
 
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This would be a different argument though. You aren't moving goalposts are you? ;)



I get what you are thinking and to an extent I think you are right.

Let me explain what I mean.

You and I agree that the world is far from what we would consider perfect. The nature of the Bible as a divine work has been disputed for centuries. Evil, suffering, pain, and disease exist and are real. If we agree these things are real, then whatever worldview we hold, it must at minimum, deal with these issues head-on, without denying their reality.

These observations would lead some to conclude that this world is not the best possible world, i.e. that there is a conceivable world wherein God's word is not disputed, there is no evil, no pain, and no disease, etc. etc. and that this world is not it.

Some would argue that if God existed and He decided to create a world, He would have to have created the best possible world and since this obviously is not the best possible world, then this means that God did not create it, and that this spells doom for the Christian, such as myself, for I maintain God did create the world.

We see this train of thought in the proposition you provided, namely the proposition, A flawed creation cannot logically come from a perfect creator god.

If this is true, then I am in big trouble, for I as a Christian, maintain that God is perfect and creator of the actual world.

Am I as much trouble as it would seem I am?

No. For the assumption underlying the argument is that being perfect entails being able to actualize a world wherein significantly free moral agents never commit evil, never dispute God's revelation, never inflict pain upon one another, and never bring about any state of affairs that could be properly labeled defective i.e. a departure from that perfect will of a perfect creator God.

You see, both you and I observe on a daily basis, events and particular states of affairs which support the hypothesis that human beings are free moral agents. The degree to which we are free may indeed be the subject of much debate, but that we are in some morally significant sense, free, is something our observations would seem to support. We maintain, and observe those around us maintaining that people in general, regardless of ethnicity, gender, socio-economic status, beliefs etc., are culpable, moral agents with the capacity for making moral judgments and in virtue of this are either deserving of being praised for the exercise of virtue, or reprimanded for the exercise of vice.

Whatever worldview we hold, therefore must at minimum, also deal with this notion of moral culpability head-on and not deny its reality.

This raises the question, namely: could God actualize a world wherein as much or more good is achieved than is achieved in this world with as many or more free moral agents as is in this actual world? It may very well be that in every world God would actualize wherein free moral agents exist, that there are humans in said worlds who freely choose to do evil, or dispute God's revelation to mankind, or maliciously inflict pain upon each other etc.

Perfection does not entail being able to force someone to do something freely anymore than it entails being able to make a married bachelor or a round square.

So when I maintain that God is all-powerful, or all-knowing, or all-loving, these superlative attributes are intended to describe God as a maximally great being or a perfect being. Not a being who can do the logically impossible.

As a Christian, I of course hold that there is a lot God cannot do.

From these observations, Christianity is a worldview which attempts to account for the existence of evil and suffering and pain, in addition to our observations that human beings are in some morally significant way, free. When compared with competing worldviews, Christianity at minimum lends itself to sincere and thoughtful consideration.


First off...No, I'm not moving the goalposts here. I stated in my original post that a "perfect creator god" cannot make flawed creations. (Re-posted the original argument on page 43 if you want to look at it again) I didn't explain why a perfect creator god can't logically make flawed creations...because I sincerely believed this was self-evident. You, however, have been claiming that I haven't shown this premise to be true...so I showed you exactly why a perfect creator god can't make flawed creations (in my last post that you responded to). Truly, I would've explained this sooner if I didn't think it was so obvious that anyone could see it. As for the rest of your post...

I'm a bit disappointed, but not at all surprised. Am I right in guessing that this rebuttal you've put forth is basically the same rebuttal you'd use if I had posed to you the philosophical problem of evil? Maybe not word for word...but it's pretty close, right?

Your first reply to my first post was something about "free will agents"...and I explained that this argument has nothing to do with free will agents. This argument isn't the "problem of evil". The flaws in god's creation that I listed all exist regardless of your views (or anyone else's) on free will. The flaws I listed aren't created by free will actors that god created...they are a part of god's creation.

For example, malaria has nothing to do with free will and man's capacity for evil. It's a flaw in god's creation. The lack of clarity in god's "message" to mankind....is also not an issue of free will. God could have conceivably been completely clear to mankind in his message and mankind would still have the free will choice to follow/believe or not. The existence of multiple interpretations isn't the flaw itself...It's evidence of the flaw of a lack of clarity.

So...for the 3rd or 4th time now...this isn't the "problem of evil" or some variation of it. The rebuttal you'd use to address the problem of evil doesn't apply to the argument I'm making. I specifically avoided anything related to free will when I made that short list of flaws so that you would hopefully understand that this isn't the "problem of evil" argument.
 
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First off...No, I'm not moving the goalposts here. I stated in my original post that a "perfect creator god" cannot make flawed creations. (Re-posted the original argument on page 43 if you want to look at it again) I didn't explain why a perfect creator god can't logically make flawed creations...because I sincerely believed this was self-evident. You, however, have been claiming that I haven't shown this premise to be true...so I showed you exactly why a perfect creator god can't make flawed creations (in my last post that you responded to). Truly, I would've explained this sooner if I didn't think it was so obvious that anyone could see it. As for the rest of your post...

I'm a bit disappointed, but not at all surprised. Am I right in guessing that this rebuttal you've put forth is basically the same rebuttal you'd use if I had posed to you the philosophical problem of evil? Maybe not word for word...but it's pretty close, right?

Your first reply to my first post was something about "free will agents"...and I explained that this argument has nothing to do with free will agents. This argument isn't the "problem of evil". The flaws in god's creation that I listed all exist regardless of your views (or anyone else's) on free will. The flaws I listed aren't created by free will actors that god created...they are a part of god's creation.

For example, malaria has nothing to do with free will and man's capacity for evil. It's a flaw in god's creation. The lack of clarity in god's "message" to mankind....is also not an issue of free will. God could have conceivably been completely clear to mankind in his message and mankind would still have the free will choice to follow/believe or not. The existence of multiple interpretations isn't the flaw itself...It's evidence of the flaw of a lack of clarity.

So...for the 3rd or 4th time now...this isn't the "problem of evil" or some variation of it. The rebuttal you'd use to address the problem of evil doesn't apply to the argument I'm making. I specifically avoided anything related to free will when I made that short list of flaws so that you would hopefully understand that this isn't the "problem of evil" argument.

Human beings exist in this world. Any discussion therefore regarding this world will have to take this into account and any discussion regarding human beings must take into account that they are in some sense, free.

Human beings dispute the bible. Human beings commit evil. Human beings harm one another. Human beings suffer. Human beings spread disease etc. etc.

Any worldview must at minimum account for such realities.
 
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Human beings exist in this world. Any discussion therefore regarding this world will have to take this into account and any discussion regarding human beings must take into account that they are in some sense, free.

Human beings dispute the bible. Human beings commit evil. Human beings harm one another. Human beings suffer. Human beings spread disease etc. etc.

Any worldview must at minimum account for such realities.

I'm not denying any of that (well, to be honest I wouldn't say human beings commit evil, I'd say they do things other humans consider evil)...it just doesn't have anything to do with my argument.
 
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I'm not denying any of that (well, to be honest I wouldn't say human beings commit evil, I'd say they do things other humans consider evil)...it just doesn't have anything to do with my argument.
I think it does have something to do with your argument. If humans are free moral agents, a hypothesis which is supported by our observations of human behavior, then it is they who are responsible for for the world being the way it is now, not God.

I see no reason why God being perfect would preclude Him from creating free moral agents with the capacity for commiting evil.

And this brings up a very important point. You have said your worldview does not allow for people to commit evil at all. Rather, it holds that people do things that some people consider evil.

From this it seems you are implying that what is evil is simply a matter of opinion or taste or perception.

But if that is the case, then your argument loses its thrust. What is a flaw or a perfection in this world becomes nothing more than a matter of personal preference or opinion. Malaria to a host organism may be inconvenient, but to the parasitic protozoa, the relationship it has with the host is quite convenient! From its host, the parasites thrive and flourish and are able to survive and reproduce.

The moment you allow that there are no moral facts such as "evil exists", but that such statements are grounded merely in the subjective opinions and perceptions of humans, your argument is finished.

I didn't go this route with you initially in rebutting your argument. I went initially with a simple free will defense which showed that God and the world we live in are not logically incompatible which was all I needed to do to rebut your argument.

This point may be helpful to remember. In the beginning, before disobedience threw the world off balance, there was no malaria, animals did not rend themselves apart for food and men did not die, but all was preserved and held in balance by God, whom Adam and Eve walked with and derived their light and life from. After the fall, there was a fundamental change in the balance of the world and it was plunged into darkness and sin. The ground produced thorns and thistles and parasites began attaching themselves to hosts and the expense of their host. Men began killing each other. God's revelation to man began to be disputed. Children began to be offered to statues of stone and wood and man did abominable things as they perverted their way.

The bible says that God made man upright, but that he has sought out many devices.

Every worldview must face the issues of evil, suffering, pain, and death head-on.

Every worldview must face the issue of the existence of disputed religious texts.

If in your worldview, what is a flaw is simply a matter of personal preference or opinion, I think your argument loses its thrust.

Evil is a reality. Disputed religious texts are a reality. Malaria is a reality. What we are looking for is a worldview that is large enough to accommodate all of this data, has the best empirical fit when it comes to explaining this data, and that can do all of this better than its competitors.

Christianity here shines so bright. For not only does it not deny the reality of evil and suffering, but it holds that God has entered into this evil and suffering world in the person of His Son Jesus. He has not remained aloof and untouched by all of this. He has entered in and bore our pain and sickness and sin upon Himself, died for us and has been raised again! We see a God big enough to conquer evil, atone for our sins, and secure our eternal hope not despite all of these things, but through these things.

Our comparative study of the world's philosophies/worldviews must deal seriously with these most fundamental of existential issues.

I shall close for now with a piece from James Stewart.


It is a glorious phrase of the New Testament, that ‘he led captivity captive.’

The very triumphs of His foes, it means, he used for their defeat. He compelled their dark achievements to sub-serve his end, not theirs.

They nailed him to the tree, not knowing that by that very act they were bringing the world to his feet.

They gave him a cross, not guessing that he would make it a throne.

They flung him outside the gates to die, not knowing that in that very moment they were lifting up all the gates of the universe, to let the King of Glory come in.

They thought to root out his doctrines, not understanding that they were implanting imperishably in the hearts of men the very name they intended to destroy.

They thought they had defeated God with His back to the wall, pinned and helpless and defeated: they did not know that it was God Himself who had tracked them down.

He did not conquer in spite of the dark mystery of evil. He conquered through it.”

James Stewart (1896–1990) was a minister of the Church of Scotland
 
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I think it does have something to do with your argument. If humans are free moral agents, a hypothesis which is supported by our observations of human behavior, then it is they who are responsible for for the world being the way it is now, not God.

I see no reason why God being perfect would preclude Him from creating free moral agents with the capacity for commiting evil.

And this brings up a very important point. You have said your worldview does not allow for people to commit evil at all. Rather, it holds that people do things that some people consider evil.

From this it seems you are implying that what is evil is simply a matter of opinion or taste or perception.

But if that is the case, then your argument loses its thrust. What is a flaw or a perfection in this world becomes nothing more than a matter of personal preference or opinion. Malaria to a host organism may be inconvenient, but to the parasitic protozoa, the relationship it has with the host is quite convenient! From its host, the parasites thrive and flourish and are able to survive and reproduce.

The moment you allow that there are no moral facts such as "evil exists", but that such statements are grounded merely in the subjective opinions and perceptions of humans, your argument is finished.

I didn't go this route with you initially in rebutting your argument. I went initially with a simple free will defense which showed that God and the world we live in are not logically incompatible which was all I needed to do to rebut your argument.

This point may be helpful to remember. In the beginning, before disobedience threw the world off balance, there was no malaria, animals did not rend themselves apart for food and men did not die, but all was preserved and held in balance by God, whom Adam and Eve walked with and derived their light and life from. After the fall, there was a fundamental change in the balance of the world and it was plunged into darkness and sin. The ground produced thorns and thistles and parasites began attaching themselves to hosts and the expense of their host. Men began killing each other. God's revelation to man began to be disputed. Children began to be offered to statues of stone and wood and man did abominable things as they perverted their way.

The bible says that God made man upright, but that he has sought out many devices.

Every worldview must face the issues of evil, suffering, pain, and death head-on.

Every worldview must face the issue of the existence of disputed religious texts.

If in your worldview, what is a flaw is simply a matter of personal preference or opinion, I think your argument loses its thrust.

Evil is a reality. Disputed religious texts are a reality. Malaria is a reality. What we are looking for is a worldview that is large enough to accommodate all of this data, has the best empirical fit when it comes to explaining this data, and that can do all of this better than its competitors.

Christianity here shines so bright. For not only does it not deny the reality of evil and suffering, but it holds that God has entered into this evil and suffering world in the person of His Son Jesus. He has not remained aloof and untouched by all of this. He has entered in and bore our pain and sickness and sin upon Himself, died for us and has been raised again! We see a God big enough to conquer evil, atone for our sins, and secure our eternal hope not despite all of these things, but through these things.

Our comparative study of the world's philosophies/worldviews must deal seriously with these most fundamental of existential issues.

I shall close for now with a piece from James Stewart.


It is a glorious phrase of the New Testament, that ‘he led captivity captive.’

The very triumphs of His foes, it means, he used for their defeat. He compelled their dark achievements to sub-serve his end, not theirs.

They nailed him to the tree, not knowing that by that very act they were bringing the world to his feet.

They gave him a cross, not guessing that he would make it a throne.

They flung him outside the gates to die, not knowing that in that very moment they were lifting up all the gates of the universe, to let the King of Glory come in.

They thought to root out his doctrines, not understanding that they were implanting imperishably in the hearts of men the very name they intended to destroy.

They thought they had defeated God with His back to the wall, pinned and helpless and defeated: they did not know that it was God Himself who had tracked them down.

He did not conquer in spite of the dark mystery of evil. He conquered through it.”

James Stewart (1896–1990) was a minister of the Church of Scotland


You said this...

"I see no reason why God being perfect would preclude Him from creating free moral agents with the capacity for commiting evil."

I see no reason either...that's why I didn't base my argument around "evil". Instead, I formed it around "flaws". Flaws themselves aren't necessarily evil. Inefficiency (as in the example of god's message to mankind) is a flaw and there is nothing inherently evil about it.

Do you agree that inefficiency is a flaw and it contains no inherent moral aspects like "good" or "evil"?

I'll continue once you address this question, since either you're purposely mischaracterizing my argument ( I'm not accusing you of deliberately mischaracterizing my argument, it's just one of the two possibilities at this point)...or you genuinely don't understand it. So once again...

Do you agree that inefficiency is a flaw and it contains no inherent moral aspects like "good" or "evil"?
 
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You said this...

"I see no reason why God being perfect would preclude Him from creating free moral agents with the capacity for commiting evil."

I see no reason either...that's why I didn't base my argument around "evil". Instead, I formed it around "flaws". Flaws themselves aren't necessarily evil. Inefficiency (as in the example of god's message to mankind) is a flaw and there is nothing inherently evil about it.

Do you agree that inefficiency is a flaw and it contains no inherent moral aspects like "good" or "evil"?

I'll continue once you address this question, since either you're purposely mischaracterizing my argument ( I'm not accusing you of deliberately mischaracterizing my argument, it's just one of the two possibilities at this point)...or you genuinely don't understand it. So once again...

Do you agree that inefficiency is a flaw and it contains no inherent moral aspects like "good" or "evil"?

I get what you're saying.

You're saying that God and an "inefficient/flawed message" cannot possibly coexist.

An inefficient/flawed message exists. Therefore God does not exist.

Your argument can be formulated as:

1. If a flawed message exists that claims to be the word of God, then God cannot possibly exist.

2. A flawed message exists that claims to be the word of God.

3. Therefore God cannot possibly exist.

Is this not your argument?
 
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I get what you're saying.

You're saying that God and an "inefficient/flawed message" cannot possibly coexist.

An inefficient/flawed message exists. Therefore God does not exist.

Your argument can be formulated as:

1. If a flawed message exists that claims to be the word of God, then God cannot possibly exist.

2. A flawed message exists that claims to be the word of God.

3. Therefore God cannot possibly exist.

Is this not your argument?

No...not quite. God could still exist as something imperfect (although I don't think you're trying to argue that). God simply couldn't exist as a "perfect creator."

You never argued against that description/definition of god though...

So in a somewhat crude way... that is the argument. Just keep in mind that the lack of clarity in the bible is just one of many examples flaws by inefficiency.

Now are you going to answer my question?

Do you agree that inefficiency is a flaw and it contains no inherent moral aspects like "good" or "evil"?
 
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No...not quite. God could still exist as something imperfect (although I don't think you're trying to argue that). God simply couldn't exist as a "perfect creator."

You never argued against that description/definition of god though...

So in a somewhat crude way... that is the argument. Just keep in mind that the lack of clarity in the bible is just one of many examples flaws by inefficiency.

Now are you going to answer my question?

Do you agree that inefficiency is a flaw and it contains no inherent moral aspects like "good" or "evil"?

I see no reason to think God being perfect necessarily entails Him being able to inspire a body of literature that is indisputable by free moral agents to whom this body of literature is given.

You would need to present arguments or reasons for this truth claim.
 
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