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Hi Anglian.they might like to reflect that without the Catholic Church they'd all probably be either Muslim or Pagans now. It was Rome which, through the Dark Ages, carried civilisation and the Faith forward; Rome which turned aside Attila and his Huns; Rome which helped inspire Charles Martel and the victory at Poitiers.
If European Christians in the Middle Ages believed that Rome was the rock against which the gates of hell would not prevail, they had plenty of evidence from which to derive that belief.
A more balanced view of these things would help discussion - but for reasons I can never fathom, a visceral loathing of Rome seems built into the faith of some Protestants and Orthodox. It is so sad that a gospel of love has prompted, on all sides, so much hate.
Thank you. I found that particularly redeeming.To be perfectly honest, I did think what you've written was a cheap shot. It is also ill-advised. To take on a 13-year-old who has already expressed anger for Catholic provocation is something I can't understand. What can possibly be your motive? Was it prudent, what you did?
The danger of posting on the forum is we sometimes want to score points against others without thinking of the consequence of our actions. It's always good to be prayerful before we shoot off a post. And we should consider what effect our post can have. I can understand indiscretion among those who are very young but I expect adults to be more responsible.
I beg your forgiveness if I have taken a liberty I shouldn't have but I was speaking from the heart.
How refreshing this was.. Thank youTo be perfectly honest, I did think what you've written was a cheap shot. It is also ill-advised. To take on a 13-year-old who has already expressed anger for Catholic provocation is something I can't understand. What can possibly be your motive? Was it prudent, what you did?
The danger of posting on the forum is we sometimes want to score points against others without thinking of the consequence of our actions. It's always good to be prayerful before we shoot off a post. And we should consider what effect our post can have. I can understand indiscretion among those who are very young but I expect adults to be more responsible.
I beg your forgiveness if I have taken a liberty I shouldn't have but I was speaking from the heart.
Forgive me...
Greetings Ortho. What's the matter?
Matthew 28:20 Teaching them to be keeping all as much as I command to ye. And behold! I with ye am all the days till the together-finish/sun-teleiaV <4930> of the Age/aiwnoV <165>. Amen [Matt 24:3]
Hebrews 9:26 Since it was binding Him many-times to be suffering from according-casting of world, now yet once upon together-finish/sun-teleia <4930> of the Ages/aiwnwn <165> into putting-away of Sin, thru the Sacrifice of Him, He has been manifested.
Greetings Ortho. What's the matter?
Matthew 28:20 Teaching them to be keeping all as much as I command to ye. And behold! I with ye am all the days till the together-finish/sun-teleiaV <4930> of the Age/aiwnoV <165>. Amen [Matt 24:3]
Hebrews 9:26 Since it was binding Him many-times to be suffering from according-casting of world, now yet once upon together-finish/sun-teleia <4930> of the Ages/aiwnwn <165> into putting-away of Sin, thru the Sacrifice of Him, He has been manifested.
What is the Orthodox view of that word #3778? Thanks.
http://www.scripture4all.org/
Matt 16:18 And I yet to thee am saying, that thou are peter and upon this/tauth <3778> the rock I shall be building of Me the out-called and gates of hades not shall be prevailing of her
tauth <3778>, pd Dative Singular Feminine
Textus Rec.) Matthew 16:18 kagw de soi legw oti su ei petroV kai epi tauth th petra oikodomhsw mou thn ekklhsian kai pulai adou ou katiscusousin authV
Hebrew 11:2 For in this/tauth <3778> were testified to the Elders/presbuteroi 3 To Faith we are apprehending...........
Yah. Wanna help me out on the Greekargumentum ad nauseum
Forgive me...
Yeah, how does the EO substantiate the rock reference is to Peter's statement & not to Peter himself.
Get jiggy with the Greek & hypothesize at length on the Aramaic if you would be so kind.
Yeah, how does the EO substantiate the rock reference is to Peter's statement & not to Peter himself.
Get jiggy with the Greek & hypothesize at length on the Aramaic if you would be so kind.
Now that is the truth... but then they benefit from others believing that it is true as they describe it... you know what they say about follow the money trail.. in this case.. benefits go to RCC not the Lord.Quite honestly no Church other than The Church of Rome says that it refers to Peter himself.
Forgive me...
Now that is the truth... but then they benefit from others believing that it is true as they describe it... you know what they say about follow the money trail.. in this case.. benefits go to RCC not the Lord.
Yeah, but don't forget Trento can cut & paste a gaggle of nominaly Protestant scholars who have surrendered the point, and Protestants aren't ecclesiologicaly monolithic in their temporal institutions.Quite honestly no Church other than The Church of Rome says that it refers to Peter himself.
Forgive me...
Now if I can only get the RCs to point out to me how early protestant/Orthodox scholars viewed that "queen/prostitute" in Revelation.Yeah, but don't forget Trento can cut & paste a gaggle of nominaly Protestant scholars who have surrendered the point, and Protestants aren't ecclesiologicaly monolithic in their temporal institutions.
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