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Gusoceros

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Are you serious? You quote a Jewish rabbi because you think his comments on the Talmud support homosexuality, when I quote the actual Talmud you screech "Jewish texts that have absolutely no bearing here whatsoever" If the Talmud is not relevant then why did you quote a reference to it. HYPOCRISY!!!!!!!!!



Do you think you are actually saying something intelligent? Benjamin Franklin once said, "It is better to be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt." Do you kjnow what the word "antipathy" means?
homophobia
—homophobe, n. —homophobic, adj.
/hoh'meuhfoh"bee euh/
n. unreasoning fear of or antipathy toward homosexuals and homosexuality.
[1955-60; HOMO (SEXUAL) + -PHOBIA]​
My wife's native language which I also read.
[SIZE=+1]그러나 참된 잠언(箴言)의 /말씀/과 같이, 개는 자기가 토한 것으로 되돌아가고 씻겨진 돼지는 진창 속에서 뒹군다, 하는 말이 그들에게 응하였도다.[/SIZE]

What does the Korean say?
 
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Der Alte

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What does the Korean say?

kurona chamdoeneui malseum kwa katchi kaeneun jakiga tohan koseun doedolagago ssitkyeojin doejineun jinchang sokaeseo doenggunda haneun mali geudeulaegae eunghayeotdoda.
 
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davedjy

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Are you serious? You quote a Jewish rabbi because you think his comments on the Talmud support homosexuality, when I quote the actual Talmud you screech "Jewish texts that have absolutely no bearing here whatsoever" If the Talmud is not relevant then why did you quote a reference to it. HYPOCRISY!!!!!!!!!



Do you think you are actually saying something intelligent? Benjamin Franklin once said, "It is better to be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt." Do you kjnow what the word "antipathy" means?
homophobia
—homophobe, n. —homophobic, adj.
/hoh'meuhfoh"bee euh/
n. unreasoning fear of or antipathy toward homosexuals and homosexuality.
[1955-60; HOMO (SEXUAL) + -PHOBIA]​
My wife's native language which I also read.
[SIZE=+1]그러나 참된 잠언(箴言)의 /말씀/과 같이, 개는 자기가 토한 것으로 되돌아가고 씻겨진 돼지는 진창 속에서 뒹군다, 하는 말이 그들에게 응하였도다.[/SIZE]
You may wish to stop saying "hypocrisy"...
Do you know the rules of this forum?

I'm more familiar with the ENGLISH DICTIONARY VERSION

HOMOPHOBIA - unreasoning fear of or antipathy toward homosexuals and homosexuality.

What did ya think a phobia was? it's a fear.
 
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davedjy

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This is insane. I honestly think you are either too close to this debate, or it honestly doesnt matter what gets posted- I suspect it is possible you are not open to any input that does not agree with your position.

I have learned a ton from Der Alter's posts, and I am thankful for his contribution.

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NOTHING is going to change my opinion on this, absolutely nothing! I have been set free by the Holy Spirit...more than any of this head knowledge, so I know Der Alter is incorrect somehow.

Quoting old Jewish texts does not equate "the Heart of God". If one of my sources is lacking in certain credentials, he feels the need to refute the whole source, which is unreasonable at best.
 
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Gusoceros

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NOTHING is going to change my opinion on this, absolutely nothing!

Well - there you go. There is no chance for objective debate, and you are not open to the possibility of being wrong.

There is now, no reason whatsoever to debate this point with you.

Good luck sir.

G
 
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davedjy

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Well - there you go. There is no chance for objective debate, and you are not open to the possibility of being wrong.

There is now, no reason whatsoever to debate this point with you.

Good luck sir.

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It's OK, in your eyes I will just go to hell. While you and all the other sinners (all sin is the same in the eyes of God), will get your hands stamped at the entrance to Heaven. The rest will suffer since we aren't on the VIP list. :D
 
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I already gave you it...read definition of tow'ebah. Of ritual sense is definition #2

I didn't miss the definition you gave. What I was asking was what concordance you were using. The reason I ask is my concordance doesn't have the definition you put.

I'm using Strongs KJV
 
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It's OK, in your eyes I will just go to hell. While you and all the other sinners (all sin is the same in the eyes of God), will get your hands stamped at the entrance to Heaven. The rest will suffer since we aren't on the VIP list. :D

Your judgement is not my business- I dont appreciate you putting words in my mouth.

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Lev 18:22 Thou shalt not lie 07901 with mankind 02145, as with 04904 womankind 0802: it [is] abomination 08441.

Hebrew for 08441

1) a disgusting thing, abomination, abominable

a) in ritual sense (of unclean food, idols, mixed marriages)

b) in ethical sense (of wickedness etc)

http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/words.pl?strongs=08441


Whether it is a) or b), both are disgusting.
 
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I have been dense :sleep:

Why did I entertain the meaningless argument over whether something is a purity code or moral code or secret alien code? No good reason.

If we say we are free from sin, does that mean we are free to sin? No!

So if we say we are free from the law, why do we take that to mean we are free to transgress the law??

Isn't scripture overwhelmingly clear that the law is from God and is good? So how dare people speak against the law and call it nullified?:mad: :mad: :mad:

But when you act against and transgress the law you are a law-breaker. When you glorify what God finds abhorrent, you speak against His ways. How can someone say they love the Son, but hate the ways of the Father?

Whether ritual, or moral, indeed call it secret alien code if you will, what God calls an abomination is an abomination to Him! What God detests is what God detests! And if God says He drove out the peoples who did all the detestable things of Lev. 18 because of their sin, then why do you glorify those same acts and think you are free in doing so? When you serve sin you became a slave to sin and fall under the law. You cannot serve sin and God at the same time. Yes, if you love God you will do what is pleasing to Him, but as it is I see people doing what God hates and calling themselves Christians for it.

Perverted homosexual arguments....
 
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So what is it Dave and my gay Christian friends?

Why do you recoil from being called a sinner and a lover of sin? Why do you hate God's law?

Acting like a victim, as though I and other Christians condemn you... Have you not heard that the Lord chastises those whom He loves? He is a God of mercy and grace. Who here has condemned you? Only the law has condemned you and only if you are under it.

Why do you recoil from the law which commands in Lev 20:
13 " 'If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.
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Did you not say you are not under the law?

I see no one condemning you, just as Jesus never condemned the adulterous woman. But He did say, "God and sin no more"
Stand up straight, be forgiven! Do not say, "The law from God is wrong and I do not sin"
Say "God have mercy on me, show me the error of my ways. All these Christians care about me, am I doing anything wrong in Your sight?"

Don't you know that you are no different than I? For we have both done things that the law prescribes a death sentence for. Why do you feel oppressed by this? All sin brings the wages of death. Show me a Christian who has not just come from his death sentence on the cross and I will show you he is an unrepentant sinner.

There is only one purpose in me writing all of this for you. It is that before I was afflicted I was in error. When I was blind to my sins, I delighted in them! Christians would tell me "you are a sinner", and I had every argument in the 'book' against their words. But when I finally inquired of the Lord Himself, He said "Leave sin NOW". And I was afflicted, my sin became utterly sinful, my life ended on the cross. Years of bitter tears sapped every bit of life and joy out of me until I again turned to the Lord, "Have mercy on me". Then He freed me and I am truly free.

It is superior to die on the cross than to live on our own merit. No one enters the kingdom of God but through the death and resurrection that comes through Christ.
 
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It's OK, in your eyes I will just go to hell. While you and all the other sinners (all sin is the same in the eyes of God), will get your hands stamped at the entrance to Heaven. The rest will suffer since we aren't on the VIP list. :D
Only God knows if you will go to Hell.. maybe you should pray about it.
 
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Only God knows if you will go to Hell.. maybe you should pray about it.

Maybe you should pray about how you logged on to my account and took all my blessings!!!:mad:

Just kidding.

:kiss:

I'm going to log onto your account and remove that awful democrat sign. I forbid you to vote democrat!
 
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There is no vip list. you either have committed you life to Christ and are doing your best to live according to His word or you could be backslide and God willdo what He needs to do to wake you...The scary part is knowing we are doing something displeasing to God and not doing our best to make it right..
 
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Maybe you should pray about how you logged on to my account and took all my blessings!!!:mad:

Just kidding.

:kiss:

I'm going to log onto your account and remove that awful democrat sign. I forbid you to vote democrat!
Back off Moon boy.
 
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Maybe you should pray about how you logged on to my account and took all my blessings!!!:mad:

Just kidding.

:kiss:

I'm going to log onto your account and remove that awful democrat sign. I forbid you to vote democrat!
Man, what. You sound a little...uh...crazy.
 
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