Personality transference

[fishyjoe]

Believing in the God of the bible must psychologically change a persons mind to the character of Yahweh.

The angry/loving
The rejecting/relenting
The judging/forgiving
The killing/saving
The curser/blesser
The destroyer/restorer

"You are what you eat"

 

[Greg J.]

Yes, it does. The speed at which it happens seems to be tied to how obedient a person chooses to be.

Don’t you know that when you offer yourselves to someone to obey him as slaves, you are slaves to the one whom you obey—whether you are slaves to sin, which leads to death, or to obedience, which leads to righteousness? (Romans 6:16, 1984 NIV)

 

[fishyjoe]

Yes, it does. The speed at which it happens seems to be tied to how obedient a person chooses to be.

Don’t you know that when you offer yourselves to someone to obey him as slaves, you are slaves to the one whom you obey—whether you are slaves to sin, which leads to death, or to obedience, which leads to righteousness? (Romans 6:16, 1984 NIV)

What are we talking about here?

 

[redleghunter]

Believing in the God of the bible must psychologically change a persons mind to the character of Yahweh.

The angry/loving
The rejecting/relenting
The judging/forgiving
The killing/saving
The curser/blesser
The destroyer/restorer

"You are what you eat"

Have not seen a term such as "personality transference" in Holy Scriptures but perhaps you mean this:

Romans 12New King James Version (NKJV)
12 I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that you present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable to God, which is your reasonable service. 2 And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.

 

[Greg J.]

What are we talking about here?

Believing in the God of the bible must psychologically change a persons mind to the character of Yahweh.

It transforms the whole person, not just his mind.

 

[fishyjoe]

It transforms the whole person, not just his mind.

I've yet to meet a Christian who displays abnormally godly qualities, who stands out from what humans are all like in general.

 

[Greg J.]

Both you and Ghandi, but there's lots of them. It's hard to spot them in America, though (not always because of them, though).

 

[fishyjoe]

Both you and Ghandi, but there's lots of them. It's hard to spot them in America, though (not always because of them, though).

See, a typical human response. There's nothing humanly different from you and I because you believe in God and I don't.

We still all run the same software, unless God is sticking chips in your brain and making you different.

Well I can't see anything different.

 

[Greg J.]

What's a "typical human response?"

There is a huge difference in character between a spiritually mature Christian what that person used to be like. People regularly desire "something" that they see that a Christian has, without being able to explain what it is (often it is labeled peace or quiet confidence devoid of worry/fear).

Jesus walked from place to place and talked to people. Crowds gathered around him. He made the religious authorities angry and was labeled the leader of a cult. What should a person expect to see in a mature Christian? Seeing Christlike behavior isn't enough. It'd just be chalked up to something he or she already believes in. God tells us that seeing someone raised from the dead even isn't enough if they aren't willing to accept the evidence already available. In this day an age of medical knowledge, magic tricks, and special effects, it's easy to explain anything away.

Long-term suffering that no doctor can fix is one way people have an experience of the truth that they aren't in control of anything. The message of Jesus doesn't promise relief in this life. People turn to him for (invisible) deeper spiritual reasons than that.

 

[fishyjoe]

What's a "typical human response?"

There is a huge difference in character between a spiritually mature Christian what that person used to be like. People regularly desire "something" that they see that a Christian has, without being able to explain what it is (often it is labeled peace or quiet confidence devoid of worry/fear).

Jesus walked from place to place and talked to people. Crowds gathered around him. He made the religious authorities angry and was labeled the leader of a cult. What should a person expect to see in a mature Christian? Seeing Christlike behavior isn't enough. It'd just be chalked up to something he or she already believes in. God tells us that seeing someone raised from the dead even isn't enough if they aren't willing to accept the evidence already available. In this day an age of medical knowledge, magic tricks, and special effects, it's easy to explain anything away.

Long-term suffering that no doctor can fix is one way people have an experience of the truth that they aren't in control of anything. The message of Jesus doesn't promise relief in this life. People turn to him for (invisible) deeper spiritual reasons than that.

But why respect and admonish your own spiritual faith, when there's many other ways to find inner peace and tranquility.

One shoe does not fit all.

 

[redleghunter]

I've yet to meet a Christian who displays abnormally godly qualities, who stands out from what humans are all like in general.

You may want to change the people around you.

Visit a church or open air Evangelical event.

 

[2PhiloVoid]

Believing in the God of the bible must psychologically change a persons mind to the character of Yahweh.

The angry/loving
The rejecting/relenting
The judging/forgiving
The killing/saving
The curser/blesser
The destroyer/restorer

"You are what you eat"

I'm not sure there is a "must" in there about any change done to a person's psychology when chasing after Christian faith. I've always understood this change to be a challenge, as in "...take up your cross daily and follow me." It's not something most of us really volunteer to do without many fits and restarts ...

 

[fishyjoe]

You may want to change the people around you.

Visit a church or open air Evangelical event.

No, that road has ended. It's not where I want to be.

 

[redleghunter]

No, that road has ended. It's not where I want to be.

You are in Exploring Christianity.

In order to explore you need to visit with Christians.

 

[fishyjoe]

You are in Exploring Christianity.

In order to explore you need to visit with Christians.

No, the road to church has ended.

 

[redleghunter]

No, the road to church has ended.

May I ask what is the purpose of this thread if you are not exploring Christianity?

 

[fishyjoe]

May I ask what is the purpose of this thread if you are not exploring Christianity?

Do I need to explore something, just to end up following?

 

[juvenissun]

"You are what you eat"

What did I eat?

 

[ViaCrucis]

Believing in the God of the bible must psychologically change a persons mind to the character of Yahweh.

The angry/loving
The rejecting/relenting
The judging/forgiving
The killing/saving
The curser/blesser
The destroyer/restorer

"You are what you eat"

Christ, being the very Word of God made flesh, Himself true God and true man reveals God to us, "No one has, at any time, seen God, but the only-begotten Son, He has made Him known" "Whoever has seen Me has seen the Father".

Christ is the Revelation of God.

And therefore we are taught, "Have this same mindset that was in Christ Jesus, who though being by nature God did not consider equality with God something to be exploited, but emptied Himself, taking on the form of a slave, being born of human likeness. And being found in human form humbled Himself, becoming obedient to the point of death--even death on a cross."

To be conformed to the image of Christ is found in the humility of the cross, and in imitation of the One who came "not to be served, but to serve".

St. Francis prays,
"For it is in giving that we receive;
It is in pardoning that we are pardoned;
It is in dying to self that we are born to eternal life."

-CryptoLutheran

 

[ViaCrucis]

I've yet to meet a Christian who displays abnormally godly qualities, who stands out from what humans are all like in general.

Do you have a reason to believe a Christian is going to be any better, morally speaking, then one who isn't? The Christianity I practice does not recognize the existence of morally superior people and morally inferior people; it just recognizes people--ordinary sinners struggling day by day. Ordinary sinners who may do good things, even especially good things; or who may do bad things, even especially bad things. But, ultimately, all still sinners--failing, faltering, ordinary sinners.

-CryptoLutheran