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If I gave you reason to believe that that is what I was saying let me say first of all that I didn't mean to say or imply that Perry Stone is lacking on Judaic insight, not just on the tabernacle but in other theologies as well. So now I really don't know how to answer your question because I don't believe that's what I said. Whjere do you see me saying this?muffler dragon said:
If that was what I believe about PS then I guess I would have a problem with him incorporating the NT into the OT. The two work together. There are many hidden references to Jesus Christ in the OT. You have the Isaiah prophecies of him, there are psalms that speak of his comeing, Genesis 3:15 starts it all out. So to suggest that the materials used to build the tabernacle and in how it is laid out shows a prophetic picture of the comeing Christ and Gods plan of salvation isn't something I reject and find silly but is something I take seriously in studying. I have with the help of Perry Stone and everything that he has taught on this makes sense to me. I hope I answered your question?
I agree and I don't believe that is what I was saying about Perry Stone.
Talk about context, If you followed the context of what I have said in this thread and the emotion I have shown while saying it you would know that the problem I have had isn't about the tabernacle or anything else that Perry Stone teaches but has everything to do with certain peoples attitudes towards tv evangelists and how they contort what they say and do to make them fit their mold mold of what it is to be a false prophet. Thats what arouses emotion in me.
Thanks for trying to understand.
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Dear Neph:
This is the statement that led to my question,
I probably read too much into it, but my question comes from this: if he doesn't glean most of his insight from a Jewish tradition; then what does he glean it from?
Sorry for the ambiguity and misunderstanding on my part.
Shalom,
m.d.
This is the statement that led to my question,
Neph said:
I probably read too much into it, but my question comes from this: if he doesn't glean most of his insight from a Jewish tradition; then what does he glean it from?
Sorry for the ambiguity and misunderstanding on my part.
Shalom,
m.d.
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In the Bible, the Torah, not all the materials used are explained. Perry Stone has traveled to Israel like 25 times in both tour groups and for further study. He has been taught by Jewish religious leaders on why these materials were used, what was behind the traditions of the priesthood and so on and so forth.muffler dragon said:
For instance all of the posts were made of a certain kind of hard, durable wood. Jewish tradition tells us why this particular type of wood was used, you wont find this reason in the Bible. Also, the footstands for the outer court posts were caped with bronz and the top capped with silver while the inner court posts had silver on the bottom and bronz on top. Once in the Holies of Holies the bottoms of the post were capped with silver and the top capped with gold. there is a significant reason for why the Israelites were instructed to do this and Perry Stone explains how it represents the comeing Messiah and Gods plan of salvation.
The furinture used in the outer court and in the Holy place also has significance and pertians to the comeing messiah. All this information isn't totally understood untill you learn Jewish traditions. Does the Bible explain to us why the posts were to be made like this in different ways? No it doesn't, one has to look further into it know what is going on. Perry Stone has learned these things and teaches this with a knowledge of Christ haveing redeamed us already.
That's alright, what are message boards for if not for misunderstandings?
I hope I didn't confuse you more with what I have just said.
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Holy Cow!!! I just figured out what has been wrong. For some reason, I kept reading that Perry does NOT glean from Jewish tradition. Boy do I feel sheepish. I obviously need to go to bed.
Your first paragraph made me go back and read, and I've been incorrect from the jump. Goodness me.
I am very aware of Halacha and Oral Torah. I know exactly what you are talking about. I am going to go ahead and exit stage right with my tail all the way up and between my legs.
Whoo-eee!
m.d.
Your first paragraph made me go back and read, and I've been incorrect from the jump. Goodness me.
I am very aware of Halacha and Oral Torah. I know exactly what you are talking about. I am going to go ahead and exit stage right with my tail all the way up and between my legs.
Whoo-eee!
m.d.
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LOL, if you need a 10' pole I believe Asaph left one behind as he left the thread!muffler dragon said:
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I'll say a prayer for you...give em' heck!!!muffler dragon said:Nah, I'm off to another thread where I know there is a battle, and I know I can win it!!!
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