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No one's going to admit to a stranger things they are doing illegally.
It would be nice to have a consistent story, but we have heard high level individuals (White House Spokesman) say that these videos were edited to distort what was being said, even though the unedited video was available at the time.I thought the whole point was that these videos are just full of self-incriminating statements. Is the narrative changing so now the videos prove guilt by not having them say anything incriminating at all? I wish we could get a consistent story here.
It would be nice to have a consistent story, but we have heard high level individuals (White House Spokesman) say that these videos were edited to distort what was being said, even though the unedited video was available at the time.
I would not like to have to sit through hours of video to find specific things, and we have yet to have anyone show what was deleted that would change the tenor of the discussion recorded there! Maybe you can show what we were asking about that. Is your contention that these videos do not have PP & SE people talking about things against fed.law concerning the timing and manner of an abortion procedure, specifically to preserve body parts of the fetus that would then be for sale?
"Releasing that information and the videos would subject federation members to "harassment, intimidation, violence, invasion of privacy, and injury to reputation," District Judge William H. Orrick III wrote in his decision issuing the order."
Perhaps this would answer your question:
No it's not. Whoever told you that is lying to you. Some vaccines were developed and are manufactured using a lineage of cells that, yes, were derived from fetal tissue from an aborted baby 40+ years ago. But you are talking about a line cells, not cells that actually came from an aborted child.
The abortion procedure isn't altered to get the tissues intact.
An organization calling itself Center for Medical Progress recently release a video supposedly showing a Planned Parenthood official discussing prices for the illegal sale of fetal tissue. After investigation it turned out that the video was deceptively edited. The fact is that a few Planned Parenthoods will donate tissues with consent in compliance with the law. Most Planned Parenthoods do not.
So, why the lie? Is stopping abortion so important that it is necessary to knowingly distort the facts? Why not tell the truth?
http://www.factcheck.org/2015/07/unspinning-the-planned-parenthood-video/
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This goes right back to what I said. What these people are doing is so vile, or evil, that even their own side cannot publicly accept it. So they have to hide and lie.
It would be nice to have a consistent story, but we have heard high level individuals (White House Spokesman) say that these videos were edited to distort what was being said, even though the unedited video was available at the time.
When tissues or organs are donated, what constitutes actually selling them vs the recouping of expenses for preparing and shipping them, for instance, if a surgeon removes a heart from a cadaver and a technician then prepares it to be picked up and taken to another location for transplant? If the surgeon and the hospital receive funds for doing these procedures is this tantamount to the selling of body parts?
You'd figure a group which thinks they have a smoking gun of obviously illegal activity would have addressed these questions when releasing the videos supposedly proving the wrongdoing... That is, if they actually have the incriminating evidence that they claim.
It would be interesting to know what lie is perpetrated here. Is there a segment of the unedited tape that indicates they were talking about buying & selling parts of surgical instruments and not aborted fetuses? (or anything like that?) Is there something that indicates there is a lie perpetrated here? Can you show where this lie is manifest? What false accusation is made in conjunction with the release of these videos?This is particularly serious if Catholics are doing it; Catholicism explicitly rejects the concept of the lesser of two evils; any evil is unacceptable, whatever the reason for doing it.
Even if that were not the case it does not do any organisation any favours if it is found to have misled people; once one lie is found there is no way of ever trusting it to tell the truth again.
It would be interesting to know what lie is perpetrated here. Is there a segment of the unedited tape that indicates they were talking about buying & selling parts of surgical instruments and not aborted fetuses? (or anything like that?) Is there something that indicates there is a lie perpetrated here? Can you show where this lie is manifest? What false accusation is made in conjunction with the release of these videos?
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