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[PERMANENTLY CLOSED] Planned Parenthood Falsely Accussed in Video

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Was none. The South seceded over the North's attempts to make it a crime.

History's not going to repeat itself, of course -- the pro-birth lobby won't have the same level of success as the North did.



Personal freedom -- including the freedom to do things other people don't like -- allows you to exist in this country.

So no problem with slavery then?
 
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So no problem with slavery then?

Did I say that?

If you have a problem with abortion, why not use the legislative process instead of looking for ways around it?

Outlaw it. None of that "no clinics within 300 yards of a traffic light" penny-ante nonsense; go national.
 
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Concerning two earlier releases:

A transcription service was hired to transcribe the videos, without being told that Planned Parenthood was the client, to compare with transcripts publicized by the anti-abortion group. That comparison, the analysis said, showed “substantive omissions” from the group’s version. Mr. Simpson was assisted in the analysis by several others including a video forensics expert, Grant Fredericks, and a television producer, Scott Goldie.

According to the investigation, the reviewers could not determine “the extent to which C.M.P.s undisclosed edits and cuts distort the meaning of the encounters the videos purport to document.”

But, it said, “the manipulation of the videos does mean they have no evidentiary value in a legal context and cannot be relied upon for any official inquiries” unless C.M.P. provides investigators with its original material, and that material is independently authenticated as unaltered.​
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Did I say that?

Did I say you did? It was a question. I won't go into detail about what that is. But since you seem to have no problem with abortion (a woman's choice to simply end development of a lifeless blob of fetal tissue, you know) and then the treatment of dead babies as if they were simply merchandise to be traded on the open market, it sounded like you had no problem with slavery either, being that it was legal at the time and all. As if no law against something makes it a-ok.
 
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Concerning two earlier releases:

A transcription service was hired to transcribe the videos, without being told that Planned Parenthood was the client, to compare with transcripts publicized by the anti-abortion group. That comparison, the analysis said, showed “substantive omissions” from the group’s version. Mr. Simpson was assisted in the analysis by several others including a video forensics expert, Grant Fredericks, and a television producer, Scott Goldie.

According to the investigation, the reviewers could not determine “the extent to which C.M.P.s undisclosed edits and cuts distort the meaning of the encounters the videos purport to document.”

But, it said, “the manipulation of the videos does mean they have no evidentiary value in a legal context and cannot be relied upon for any official inquiries” unless C.M.P. provides investigators with its original material, and that material is independently authenticated as unaltered.​
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But...but...that wouldn't serve CMP's purposes!
 
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Did I say you did? It was a question. I won't go into detail about what that is. But since you seem to have no problem with abortion (a woman's choice to simply end development of a lifeless blob of fetal tissue, you know) and then the treatment of dead babies as if they were simply merchandise to be traded on the open market,

What dead babies? Lifeless blob of fetal tissue, you know.

If you can't keep your terms straight, then:

it sounded like you had no problem with slavery either, being that it was legal at the time and all. As if no law against something makes it a-ok.

it's no wonder you make such interesting leaps in "logic."

Tell you what: you get your terms straight, then we can attempt to maintain a conversation.
 
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What dead babies? Lifeless blob of fetal tissue, you know.



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<<< Pro-choice justification
 
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<<< Pro-choice justification

One would think that the pro-birth crowd would have outlawed abortion based solely on the emotional impact.

Any reason that hasn't worked after over 40 years?
 
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One would think that the pro-birth crowd would have outlawed abortion based solely on the emotional impact.

Any reason that hasn't worked after over 40 years?

How about morals? Otherwise, we are done as a society.
A person could say that the experiments done on people by the Nazis were moral because the medical knowledge gained by it helps the many at the expense of the few. Does that make it right?
 
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How about morals? Otherwise, we are done as a society.

So go ahead and legislate some morals... finally succeed after four decades of failure.
 
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So go ahead and legislate some morals... finally succeed after four decades of failure.

Four decades of failure..
What about our 180 decades of success, when the moral argument reigned supreme?
You call it 'emotional' to defend what is a complete desensitization for the human fetus. Why not the same with newborns, who could also be met with a painless death? Don't let your 'emotions' get in the way, now, the sin is just plainer to see.
 
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Four decades of failure..
What about our 180 decades of success, when the moral argument reigned supreme?

Did it reign supreme? Abortion still existed -- just that a girl who got herself "in trouble" needed to know someone... not that they were too hard to find...

You call it 'emotional' to defend what is a complete desensitization for the human fetus. Why not the same with newborns, who could also be met with a painless death? Don't let your 'emotions' get in the way, now, the sin is just plainer to see.

Much as I appreciate your emotional argument -- and please, by all means, continue to drag "sin" into it -- a line had to be drawn... you and the rest of the pro-birth crowd just don't like where.
 
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What dead babies? Lifeless blob of fetal tissue, you know.

Actually I am pleased to see your continued efforts to protect and defend activities which would have given Mengele pause. Planned Parenthood operates abortion mills, murdering the unborn and then chopping up their remains and shipping them all around the country, including we now know the heads of babies in boxes. The employees of Planned Parenthood gleefully joke about such activities over wine. And you, along with the vast majority of the left, gleefully defend it all. Which as stated is good, because it reveals the true face of American liberalism.

The "lifeless blob" comment is also quite revealing. The left, in general, is always screaming "Science!" to defend their position on Global Warming, Environmentalism, and a host of other issues. However where abortion is concerned, science can take a hike. The left acts as if none of them ever sat through a basic Biology class and no one else ever did either.
 
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