People who prophesy in His name but judge are not doing what Jesus says

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Recently I experienced shock that God allows something to come over to cause the shock for seeking to run life my way different from other Christians not because God does not approve but because should not make others feel divided and need to be close to God in His word maybe for jesus to remind me when unclean spirit goes out of man he goes through dry places seeking rest and when he comes takes other spirts to remind me to seek now to be close to Him.
 
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It is sad but just that all the people who have contempt to people who follow churches to really believe it good for people who follow churches to go to hell will end up in hell themselves for they love and worship the beast rather than the innocent lamb but those who do not agree inside to believe but are not sure if they think that God alone knows what is just are accepted but those who do not believe so but they like to persecute those who follow what is right to turn them away from good are evil and will end up in hell if they don’t repent before they die.
 
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It is those who who think themselves more good than others to be somewhat better if they do not humble themselves would not come to Christ so Jesus said unless you receive the kingdom as a little child you will not enter it and I think that was the state of the foolish virgins they never received Christ from their heart to judge others who seem worse off but there are some sinners who only sinned because they were fooled to want to please people to have sensitive hearts though is foolish and harmful but some repented who had chance so Jesus said I thank you Father that you have hidden these things from the wise and prudent and revealed them to babes for some people no matter how much you show them if they are not willing to hear to consider it and judge properly will not be convinced that what you say that it is right.
 
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Many people do evil to judge Christian’s for living their life and not doing the same as them which lessens the influence to those unbelievers who use as excuse not to be Christian because other Christian’s are not taking Christianity seriously to support their accusations for they try to make if person is also found enjoying their life they are not true Christians to blame them which may put burdens on people who become Christian to feel they can not enjoy their life and to make all people stay away from others who do and I suppose some may try to make others not true Christian’s to stay away from them but God does not care about any of ones own works one claims comes from God to say others not able to do as they are not saved that is not needed to preach to people who have heard except if they are friends to treat them right to do good to them to show concern but only to reach others you meet if they have not heard or if they have to try to reach them to show concern unless it seems one may not have heard otherwise unless the Lord has equipped you to do more somewhere where people need to hear otherwise to pray for labourers nor other Christian’s to put burdens not required Jesus did not say for claiming that people who are not preaching always when there is no need are not Christian.
 
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All the below verses is used to support that others who follow a church are not saved as their trust is not in Jesus but actually one trust can be in Jesus for they think only Jesus made a church they make divisions just as church to not make them less good than church and they use below to support good works are not essential to ensure you are true believer abiding in Him without which person could die at any time while he is deliberating ignoring good works he ought to do to not have opportunity to repent though only works person needs to do is what person knows he is lacking in obedience and that his knowledge is wrong and insufficient so that he learns.

John 14:6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.

Acts 4:12
12 Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.”

John 3:36
He who believes in the Son has everlasting life; and he who does not believe the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him.”

Romans 6:23
For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.

1 John 5:11-12
11 And this is the testimony: that God has given us eternal life, and this life is in His Son. 12 He who has the Son has life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have life.

Isaiah 64:6
But we are all like an unclean thing,
And all our righteousnesses are like filthy rags;We all fade as a leaf,And our iniquities, like the wind,Have taken us away.
 
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If someone has deliberately done evil that he tried to harm person that that is one intention by one teaching in anything must confess his evil deeds because may not have chance to repent to die when not seeking to confess his deeds to die at any time while not seeking to repent so must repent of that. I am not saying person must change one beliefs if believe it may be true but still must confess if one ever had bad intention.

as bible says who desires life keep your tongue from evil and your lips from speaking deceit.Depart from evil and do good. Seek peace and pursue it.
 
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It is important not to teach a position as definite that you know it will happen if you do not but only that you believe and if one never believed such but only taught it for any selfish reason must confess to it even if now believes it might be true. As this site shows if anyone adds to the book of revelation their own interpretation God will add plagues but it also means not to take away to say there is no rapture if you don’t know that there could be a rapture. I do not make an opinion I do not say there will definitely be a pretribulation rapture but it seems to be possible according to many scriptures and would be deceiving not to say what I believe could be atleast there will be protection for some if not all believers and other believers can overcome that God help will be available atleast if they were repenting can not promise no tribulation for all repentant believers but it may be there will be protection for them from great tribulation some to be nourished in wilderness and others could be protected too from great tribulation or could mean their state as in wilderness not physically to be nourished and then raptured before time of wrath when 2 witnesses are killed and raised to heaven.

 
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I am guilty of attacking beliefs of people who think differently and I realise it is not proper Christian behaviour though I have responsibility to preach Christian faith with grace.
If something is false doctrine, it's false doctrine. If we criticize a belief we have to separate that belief from the person who believes it. It actually is a Christian duty to reject whatever is untrue, but that doesn't mean rejecting or belitting or attacking the person. However, if that person is a bad influence, then it is still a Christian's duty to stay away from bad company.

We are allowed to judge someone by their fruits and conduct: judgments such as, should I be around this person? If I accept the invitation will I find myself among worldly people, I better not go, if that's the case. If I pal around with this person, could I end up in jail as an accomplice? And so on and so on; we are not allowed to condemn. Condemning is as you said in the first post: saying it's too late for someone to be saved, or assuming someone will end up in hell.

I shred and criticize beliefs all the time. Lol. But I don't shred and criticize the people. I find most people very pleasant and helpful and outside of religion most people I can get along with in some degree. I believe in sharing my beliefs, but not forcing it, nor arguing or debating. If I am kind to others and they know what I believe, someday if they feel inspired by God to look into my beliefs, perhaps they will remember me as that friendly person and come to me for information. It's not my job to convert anyone; that's God's job. But I will be a directory for him to point people in the right direction if they are ever interested.
 
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My thoughts though I don’t follow to know so I seek to follow church instead because anyway can not prove and not willing to follow unless I am accepted to have a chance at future to marry because I don’t feel others are sincere making divisions to be happy single if I don’t feel they are honest to be teaching whole counsel that I don’t feel they are helpful to prove what they say is true and I want to marry because not to support such divisions or treating others bad and it pleases God to bless us more not to bless us more that children and grand children are blessed if people do what is right as otherwise we will be less fruitful to influence the world.

The message of revelations is meant to be sent to the angels of the churches which is the pastors they are supposed to teach their congregation what is right not to purposely make divisions they don’t have to agree on doctrine but they have to be honest and not judge others to put burdens on them and advise against doing good to people of other backgrounds so they are loveless church and their lampstand will be taken from them not that they will be rejected but that they won’t be as fruitful as other churches unless they repent and also if their members are doing sins and not whole heartedly seeking God and repenting they will not be effective to save souls if they do not seek to teach whole counsel of God only those who do will be effective.
 
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It is wrong for orthodox to reject other Christian’s for their beliefs for such faith is not to be forced on others and wrong for other Christian’s to reject also other Christian’s they do such on purpose to reject for no cause and if they don’t seek to make things right to be seeking to work towards it if they are rejecting without cause and die they won’t be saved they only need to seek to work towards and if they were if they didn’t die they would accept others that is if they are deliberately not doing good to them even if there is no reason why they should be rejected but they want them to suffer.

One particular person does not have to accept anyone if they think they are not suitable or to force any not all have to but for a community to do for none to accept if all support that to want that they won’t be saved but if they care they will be saved even if they are not interested but judgement will still come on community for none to help though they will be saved.My dad seems biased for he claims among the orthodox you won’t find any one who will marry someone who presents difficulty that none of them will have the love of Christ to consider you and thinks highly of other Christian’s like baptist though I don’t know if he is realistic that you will find those among them who have the love of Christ to consider others to be selfless because they have love of Christ to want to help others.
 
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Those who like to attack other people for their faith as they are not as popular to claim to know they are not saved practice evil dissension on purpose when they don’t know when they can rather focus on non Christian’s they would have brought judgement on themselves they have to apologise if they did that to want to attack on purpose from having contempt when they don’t know absolutely to seek to apologise and they should because they can die while they are not seeking to they can say they don’t know but they believe that is the way and apologise for trying to insult. Jesus is clear he who says you fool is in danger of hell fire.
 
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People are free and don’t have to marry any to do good but actually if they didnt do good only because they are hateful to want to punish for one mistakes to refuse to do good to any who only show their struggles because they don’t like hypocrisy or things being not right to be imperfect and because they are honest to struggle with differences they are wrong to be too harsh to deserve to even be temporarily punished though not always are and to temporarily have less reward as others. A lot of jealous or rash people condemn Christian’s also for seeking marriage as though they are pursuing worldliness instead of Christ or for seeking to be successful as though they are not following Christ being hypocrites as Paul says speaking lies in hypocrisy forbidding to marry or to abstain from food as pleasure as a way that it is necessary to earn salvation which the concept is the same to condemn people for doing what is ok.
 
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I am tempted to look at porn online because I sometimes question if people are manipulating things and God won’t stop things to allow them to try to make me suffer as though I am bad person to make fun of that I am not good enough that God does not accept person who is not worthy as they make themselves to be that people who did not prove themselves worthy it is too late for them and many Christian’s wanted to make that others are not loyal to God through their beliefs or are not good Christian’s and that is why they do not have and suffer and show off themselves to accept them that I want to do bad so I can’t suffer for being good but I won’t let them and strive to live holy as it is necessary.
 
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People who seek to interfere in other lives to destroy their reputation as though they are not worthy that they are bad should fear God because they can die at any time before having opportunity to repent of that that they have to be seeking to repent to make things right
 
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If someone sought someone to date and there is no valid reason to reject just judgement because one folllows biblical Christian beliefs and not just really not ready now or really looking for some one with certain characteristics one really thinks one would prefer to build life not just to reject person with no cause or if pastor deliberately tries to ruin things for others or make it harder to have any blessing by closing a service one has to seek to make peace to confess one sins because if one dies at any time while he did not seek to he will not be saved as Jesus says if the servant says my master is delaying His coming and beats His servants master will come when one is not looking for Him to mean that if you do you may die while you plan to live in that state to not have opportunity to repent and if so if continue in that state He eventually will.
 
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Evil doers and some may be in church who hate other believers to try to make sure they do not have chance for future to support to be behind passing evil are at risk of going to hell if they don’t confess their evil involvement because they may die while not seeking to repent to have opportunity to call seeking just while they are not seeking to truly doing for God knows when person is truly repentant if one did not die then and there was time they would have confessed.
 
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Judging others seems to come from a profound dualistic worldview that tries to overcome the heart. If all that religion accomplishes is whether you go to hell or not(a state of fear and uncertainty), something must be wrong. It could be that religion has gone beyond its bounds and is behaving as a human anatomy. Whereas, the human anatomy including the heart cannot mix with ideological systems such as religion. That is why we seek God's direct Grace and Presence and not just another set of ideas; religion is no better than secularism if it becomes our entire reality since both entertain the mind, logic, the sense of legalism... Love for God and the need for Him directly come from the heart. God speaks to the spirit and this language transcends rationality.
 
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You are right it is about learning to be transformed to be like Him when you come to see the truth about His grace and to keep abiding to be seeking to grow more like Him as much as you are able to love others but those who do not come to accept everyone seeking acceptance by Christ show they hate goodness and God for who He is and therefore in rejecting God they are responsible for their own damnation.

The bible says in proverbs those who hate Me to seek to know me to be like me by gaining wisdom to become like me love death. I suppose person may not really hate God and reject Him completely if they just do so from hurt and they may be willing to change. But not loving neighbor means not loving God as bible says if you do not love your brother whom you have seen how can you say you love God whom you have not seen.

A person could be at fault so we must always forgive as we also have faults but to remain hating not to forgive shows person does not love God because he hates who He is who is love and also to reject to turn to Him for who He is being just needing His forgiveness that can only be obtained because of the cross to believe that and live righteous to confess that for others to believe you reject Him also.
 
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Malachi 3:5
And I will come near you for judgment;
I will be a swift witness
Against sorcerers,
Against adulterers,
Against perjurers,
Against those who exploit wage earners and widows and orphans,
And against those who turn away an alien—
Because they do not fear Me,”
Says the LORD of hosts.


Jeremiah 22:3
Thus says the LORD: “Execute judgment and righteousness, and deliver the plundered out of the hand of the oppressor. Do no wrong and do no violence to the stranger, the fatherless, or the widow, nor shed innocent blood in this place.

There will be judgement on all lands eventually which do not ensure justice for all and there will be judgement on all Christian churches that agree to reject others not everyone has to accept but everyone has to not speak in their churches that it is wrong to discourage to reject others and people should plead for it who for it is not to them to control what type of Christian faith they follow that as long as one lets others live their faith is ok for the children are sanctified by the believing spouse
 
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For those who enjoy to speak bad about others character and continue to tell others not to do good to them this is for you. It is not an instruction not to do good for such people as though they know but God will take away their prosperity and when they beg even if others help them God will take it away to make them in need but you can’t judge that you are supposed to help anyway it is for God to judge.

Psalm 109
Plea for Judgment of False Accusers
To the Chief Musician. A Psalm of David.
1 Do not keep silent,
O God of my praise!
2 For the mouth of the wicked and the mouth of the deceitful
Have opened against me;
They have spoken against me with a lying tongue.
3 They have also surrounded me with words of hatred,
And fought against me without a cause.
4 In return for my love they are my accusers,
But I give myself to prayer.
5 Thus they have rewarded me evil for good,
And hatred for my love.
6 Set a wicked man over him,
And let an accuser stand at his right hand.
7 When he is judged, let him be found guilty,
And let his prayer become sin.
8 Let his days be few,
And let another take his office.
9 Let his children be fatherless,
And his wife a widow.
10 Let his children continually be vagabonds, and beg;
Let them seek their bread also from their desolate places.
11 Let the creditor seize all that he has,
And let strangers plunder his labor.
12 Let there be none to extend mercy to him,
Nor let there be any to favor his fatherless children.
13 Let his posterity be cut off,
And in the generation following let their name be blotted out.
14 Let the iniquity of his fathers be remembered before the LORD,
And let not the sin of his mother be blotted out.
15 Let them be continually before the LORD,
That He may cut off the memory of them from the earth;
16 Because he did not remember to show mercy,
But persecuted the poor and needy man,
That he might even slay the broken in heart.
17 As he loved cursing, so let it come to him;
As he did not delight in blessing, so let it be far from him.
18 As he clothed himself with cursing as with his garment,
So let it enter his body like water,
And like oil into his bones.
19 Let it be to him like the garment which covers him,
And for a belt with which he girds himself continually.
20 Let this be the LORD’s reward to my accusers,
And to those who speak evil against my person.
21 But You, O GOD the Lord,
Deal with me for Your name’s sake;
Because Your mercy is good, deliver me.
22 For I am poor and needy,
And my heart is wounded within me.
23 I am gone like a shadow when it lengthens;
I am shaken off like a locust.
24 My knees are weak through fasting,
And my flesh is feeble from lack of fatness.
25 I also have become a reproach to them;
When they look at me, they shake their heads.
26 Help me, O LORD my God!
Oh, save me according to Your mercy,
27 That they may know that this is Your hand—
That You, LORD, have done it!
28 Let them curse, but You bless;
When they arise, let them be ashamed,
But let Your servant rejoice.
29 Let my accusers be clothed with shame,
And let them cover themselves with their own disgrace as with a mantle.
30 I will greatly praise the LORD with my mouth;
Yes, I will praise Him among the multitude.
31 For He shall stand at the right hand of the poor,
To save him from those who condemn him.
 
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