Pentecostals views on tithing?

Girly3302 · Jan 2, 2006

i posted some questions in theology about this issue and would like some input from fellow pentecostals.
please click on link.
http://www.christianforums.com/t2468730-is-tithing-required-of-christians-or-does-it-only-apply-to-the-old-testament.html

fanintoflame · Jan 2, 2006

well i view it as essential.
read malachi 3
if we are not tithing our 10% the devil has legal right to rob us
i also believe in giving back and blessing others (even if you have not been blessed)

Tenebrae · Jan 3, 2006

fanintoflame said:
well i view it as essential.
read malachi 3
if we are not tithing our 10% the devil has legal right to rob us
i also believe in giving back and blessing others (even if you have not been blessed)

where does it say in the bible if we dont give our 10% the devil has the right to rob us?

Look at Job, a man who was v ery much sucessful and in favour with God, the only reason the devil went on the rampage in his life was because he was given permission by God

GuitarChick13 · Jan 3, 2006

Well, God gave us all that we have. We need to give back! The amount, is 10% of our income...and don't worry about, "I don't have enough money!" or anything like that, because we are to trust God to give us what we need...

JamesBurrow · Jan 3, 2006

that 10% issue not only is to give back to the one who gave us everything, but to show our loyalty and our obediance. After all, the LORD does not actually need our money.
The 10% does not have to be in money either, but whatever we have.
effort, money, time, whatever.

probinson · Jan 3, 2006

JamesBurrow said:
that 10% issue not only is to give back to the one who gave us everything, but to show our loyalty and our obediance. After all, the LORD does not actually need our money.
The 10% does not have to be in money either, but whatever we have.
effort, money, time, whatever.

So young. So wise.

PastorMikeJ · Jan 3, 2006

We are to give God our first fruits...

When do we give them?

Girly3302 · Jan 5, 2006

There are some interesting articles on the web concerning the subject. I have included two links, the first is a short article written by a Pentecostal pastor. The second link is a more in depth 300 to 400 page book that a pastor and theologian has written. I haven't had the time to read it yet.

God Bless

http://www.thegraceproject.com/Articles/The%20Tithing%20Controversy-%20No%20laughing%20Matter.htm

[url="http://www.shouldthechurchteachtithing.com/"]http://www.shouldthechurchteachtithing.com/[/url]

I don't know anymore.I read the article by the pastor someone posted and it makes sense.Please read and comment back to me
http://www.thegraceproject.com/Articles/The%20Tithing%20Controversy-%20No%20laughing%20Matter.htm

Girly3302 · Jan 5, 2006

grateful heart said:
Hi Girly3302

I too am in the AOG in Sydney, I have believed in tithing for years but only recently questioned it, i do find it interesting that Jesus commands us two laws in the NT, Love God with all your heart,mind and strength, and love each other as I have loved you , to me these are the two laws in which we should live.tithing is an Old testament Law and I have talked with many heads of the AOG, their man argument is that the Principle of Tithing is just that a "principle" not a law, also they say that because it is mainly silent in the NT this means that Jesus and Paul would assume his followers knew this so they didnt need to reiterate it, to me this is quite flawed, but lets face it our Churches need the Tithes to do what we are doing as we are the fastest growing denomination in the world, and it seems that because people are tithing and getting blessed financially they believe these are the fruits that prove that it is real, in effect all that is happening is the sowing and reaping principle. You reap what you Sow.

Now what I have read and studied is that giving is 100% Biblical and should be done by ALL Christians , The tithe is Biblical but not Christian(if that makes sense) if you want to give 10% then by all means do so, but it isnt a law for today

does this make sense?

http://www.christianforums.com/t246...-testament.html

rgleason · Jan 5, 2006

MikeJ said:
We are to give God our first fruits...

When do we give them?

We are to give God the first fruits of our INCREASE, not our lack.

Girly3302 · Jan 5, 2006

fanintoflame said:
well i view it as essential.
read malachi 3
if we are not tithing our 10% the devil has legal right to rob us
i also believe in giving back and blessing others (even if you have not been blessed)

seekthetruth909 said:
Some questions to ponder.

[BIBLE]

Were the leper and the Pharisees still under Mosaic Law until the crucifixion of Christ?

[BIBLE]
Galatians 4:4 But when the time had fully come, God sent his Son, born of a woman, born under law,

Ephesians 2:15 By abolishing in his flesh the law with its commandments and regulations. His purpose was to create in himself one new man out of the two, thus making peace.

Galatians 3:25 Now that faith has come, we are no longer under the supervision of the law.

Galatians 5:18 But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under law.
[/BIBLE]

We should give freely and generously from our heart expecting nothing in return.

[BIBLE]
2 Cor 9:7-10 Each of you must give as you have made up your mind, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver.
[/BIBLE]

Even my pastor says we are no longer under the old covenant. He uses the Abraham argument so why would Malachi 3 apply? What about all the other of hundreds of old testament laws we don't follow?

grateful heart · Jan 6, 2006

Hey , you still questioning thr Tithe? i see you posted my comment to you from another thread? anyone got any comments?

Religious Crisis · Jan 11, 2006

fanintoflame said:
well i view it as essential.
read malachi 3
if we are not tithing our 10% the devil has legal right to rob us
i also believe in giving back and blessing others (even if you have not been blessed)

I totaly agree with that.

MichaelLoudermilk · Jan 18, 2006

Here's an Absolutely Absurd 'Man Teaching' on tithing for all of you!

Seems now we have a few folks in the body of Christ who have come up with their own self profiting scheme to get rich off their congregations!

They tell their folks if they fail to pay their tithes they must then, in order to atone for their sin, pay the unpaid tithe PLUS a 20% interest penalty!

My wife and I got 'Thrown Out Of A Church' because I asked the Pastor who demanded that of us, to prove his 'Teaching' from the word of God!

Of course this was done because he could not do so, and as Jesus said, the workers of darkness cannot stay in the light of truth!

Liquid_Niki · Jan 18, 2006

I tithe simply because I believe that if God hadn't provided it, I wouldn't have it to begin with.
My church uses that money for missions, needy assistance, to keep the lights on, etc. I really believe it is our responsibility as parishoners to help keep our doors open.
I understand that this may not be a biblical basis, but in my heart this is how I feel.

Religious Crisis · Jan 18, 2006

Well said.

Just Me Garry · Jan 18, 2006

Did Abraham work for what ever he got? How about just the desire to give. malfunction legalism anyway.

MichaelLoudermilk · Jan 22, 2006

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huma · Jan 22, 2006

giving 10% to God from our income brings lots of Blessing to us.
God Bless U all.

MichaelLoudermilk · Jan 22, 2006

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