Paul the heretic??

[ToBeLoved]

You should google the Bible, Jesus spoke of the "many mansions", he went there to prepare a place for us. You remember Jesus right? The religious rocket surgeons thought he was silly as well.

It is bold that you now feel you have the right to throw a verse in the Bible back at a Christian. You know what our thoughts are about your beliefs, yet you come on here and throw our own faith back at us? That's dirty.

I think most of us have been pretty tolerant of your beliefs.

Does your Uratia book teach that Jesus is God even? Isn't He like an alien or something. I know there are aliens in that book.

 

[Colter]

I'm quite aware of where Jesus said He would go to prepare a place for us because in the Father's house there are many rooms; but the idea of "mansion worlds" comes from the Urantia Book, it's the Urantia Book that I accuse of silliness as a product of mid-20th century science and fantasy fiction.

-CryptoLutheran

That's fair enough.

 

[Colter]

It is bold that you now feel you have the right to throw a verse in the Bible back at a Christian. You know what our thoughts are about your beliefs, yet you come on here and throw our own faith back at us? That's dirty.

I think most of us have been pretty tolerant of your beliefs.

Does your Uratia book teach that Jesus is God even? Isn't He like an alien or something. I know there are aliens in that book.

The Bible contains the thoughts of many men, spiritual truths, revelations great and small, histories of various qualities and over many ages. I'm versed in the Bible and simply reference things from it that parallel my theology. Jesus quoted Judaism at those who tried to make trouble for him, it's not dirty.

 

[ViaCrucis]

It is bold that you now feel you have the right to throw a verse in the Bible back at a Christian. You know what our thoughts are about your beliefs, yet you come on here and throw our own faith back at us? That's dirty.

I think most of us have been pretty tolerant of your beliefs.

Does your Uratia book teach that Jesus is God even? Isn't He like an alien or something. I know there are aliens in that book.

The Urantia Book claims that Jesus is one of the many "Creator Sons" which were born of the Universal Father and Eternal Son, Jesus is not the second person of the Trinity in the Urantia cosmology.

"Jesus is considered the human incarnation of 'Michael of Nebadon,' one of more than 700,000 'Paradise Sons' of God, or 'Creator Sons.' Jesus is not considered the second person of the Trinity as he is in Christianity. The book refers to the Eternal Son as the second person of the Trinity." - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Urantia_Book#Comparison_to_Christianity

-CryptoLutheran

 

[ViaCrucis]

The Bible contains the thoughts of many men, spiritual truths, revelations great and small, histories of various qualities and over many ages. I'm versed in the Bible and simply reference things from it that parallel my theology. Jesus quoted Judaism at those who tried to make trouble for him, it's not dirty.

Jesus did not "quote Judaism"; Jesus was a Jew whose religion was Judaism, and so He spoke out of His own religious tradition.

You can't possibly not know that Christianity, in confessing that Jesus is the Messiah, came out of first century Judaism confessing that Jesus is the Jewish Messiah.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[Colter]

Jesus did not "quote Judaism"; Jesus was a Jew whose religion was Judaism, and so He spoke out of His own religious tradition.

You can't possibly not know that Christianity, in confessing that Jesus is the Messiah, came out of first century Judaism confessing that Jesus is the Jewish Messiah.

-CryptoLutheran

ViaCrucis, I think you are just being argumentative for the sake of it. The point was that Jesus quoted the scripture back to the religious authorities who were also just trying to find fault with him. You had implied that "Mansion worlds" was some kind of silly sci fi invention, I quoted Jesus saying that in his fathers house are many mansions, that he went there to prepare a place. But I suspect you will split hairs with this reply as well. Suit yourself.

 

[ViaCrucis]

ViaCrucis, I think you are just being argumentative for the sake of it. The point was that Jesus quoted the scripture back to the religious authorities who were also just trying to find fault with him. You had implied that "Mansion worlds" was some kind of silly sci fi invention, I quoted Jesus saying that in his fathers house are many mansions, that he went there to prepare a place. But I suspect you will split hairs with this reply as well. Suit yourself.

If we mean very different things then it's not splitting hairs.

When Jesus spoke of preparing a place for us He was saying "That where I am, you will be also" that there is a place for us, with Him. I don't believe God has a literal house, or that I will live in a literal room in that house (from the Greek μοναὶ, "rooms" "dwellings" "abodes")--it is about our place with Christ with the Father.

What do you mean by "mansion worlds"?

-CryptoLutheran

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

here a tic, there a tic, everywhere a tic tic ... ... ... ...
"mansions" throughout Scripture is a small modest accommodation,
a room, a plain domicile, without leprosy or mold or mildew.
(paraphrased summation)

 

[Colter]

No Peter, that doesn't fit the narrative. You must now be sent to reeducation camp!

If we mean very different things then it's not splitting hairs.

When Jesus spoke of preparing a place for us He was saying "That where I am, you will be also" that there is a place for us, with Him. I don't believe God has a literal house, or that I will live in a literal room in that house (from the Greek μοναὶ, "rooms" "dwellings" "abodes")--it is about our place with Christ with the Father.

What do you mean by "mansion worlds"?

-CryptoLutheran

Other worlds, planets. At the times of Christ on earth we had no idea what was beyond our range of vision. I believe Jesus was alluding to what we had not yet discovered.

 

[ViaCrucis]

No Peter, that doesn't fit the narrative. You must now be sent to reeducation camp!


Other worlds, planets. At the times of Christ on earth we had no idea what was beyond our range of vision. I believe Jesus was alluding to what we had not yet discovered.

Then, it seems, I wasn't just being argumentative or splitting hairs.

Because, no, Jesus wasn't referring to other planets.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[Colter]

here a tic, there a tic, everywhere a tic tic ... ... ... ...
"mansions" throughout Scripture is a small modest accommodation,
a room, a plain domicile, without leprosy or mold or mildew.
(paraphrased summation)

 

[Colter]

Then, it seems, I wasn't just being argumentative or splitting hairs.

Because, no, Jesus wasn't referring to other planets.

-CryptoLutheran

That's your opinion, your interpretation.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

The meek inherit the earth.
Not outer space.
"Paul" the heretic ?? No. Never.
Compare most other schools today....

 

[Colter]

The meek inherit the earth.
Not outer space.
"Paul" the heretic ?? No. Never.
Compare most other schools today....

True, eventually the original gospel with subdue the earth. And eventually the sun will toast the earth, this never was to be our permanent home.

 

[ViaCrucis]

That's your opinion, your interpretation.

But in all seriousness, I have absolutely no reason to believe Jesus was talking about planets, and the only reason you think so is because the Urantia Book.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[Colter]

But in all seriousness, I have absolutely no reason to believe Jesus was talking about planets, and the only reason you think so is because the Urantia Book.

-CryptoLutheran

Again, that's your opinion. Jesus was often vague. The traditional concepts of heaven, man floating out somewhere leaves a lot to be desired. I think that the concept of an actual place where survivors will be resurrected is perfectly legitimate. Likewise, I think your lack of imagination is indicative of the limitations of Bibliolatry.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Neither Yhwh nor Yeshua was vague.
A lot of ideas posted are nonsensical and actually contrary to Jesus Word.

 

[ViaCrucis]

Again, that's your opinion. Jesus was often vague. The traditional concepts of heaven, man floating out somewhere leaves a lot to be desired.

Good thing that's not the traditional teaching then isn't it?

I think that the concept of an actual place where survivors will be resurrected is perfectly legitimate.

You mean like right here on earth, as the Bible and two thousand years of Christian teaching says?

Likewise, I think your lack of imagination is indicative of the limitations of Bibliolatry.

That must be it. I don't accept the claims of a book published in 1955 based upon the claimed ramblings of an anonymous unconscious person therefore I worship the Bible. Logic? Airtight.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[Colter]

Good thing that's not the traditional teaching then isn't it?



You mean like right here on earth, as the Bible and two thousand years of Christian teaching says?



That must be it. I don't accept the claims of a book published in 1955 based upon the claimed ramblings of an anonymous unconscious person therefore I worship the Bible. Logic? Airtight.

-CryptoLutheran

Many other Christians disagree with your interpretation that heaven is on earth, but you can pretend that all Christians think the same way.

 

[Colter]

Neither Yhwh nor Yeshua was vague.
A lot of ideas posted are nonsensical and actually contrary to Jesus Word.

Jesus spoke in parables which are open to interpretation.