Paul I:5 teaches us:

[MarkAnthony]

It is widely reported that there is immorality among you, and immorality of a kind not found even among pagans - a man living with his father's wife. And you are inflated with pride. 3 Should you not rather have been sorrowful? The one who did this deed should be expelled from your midst. I, for my part, although absent in body but present in spirit, have already, as if present, pronounced judgment on the one who has committed this deed, in the name of (our) Lord Jesus: when you have gathered together and I am with you in spirit with the power of the Lord Jesus, you are to deliver this man to Satan 4 for the destruction of his flesh, so that his spirit may be saved on the day of the Lord. Your boasting is not appropriate. Do you not know that a little yeast 5 leavens all the dough? 6 Clear out the old yeast, so that you may become a fresh batch of dough, inasmuch as you are unleavened. For our paschal lamb, Christ, has been sacrificed. Therefore let us celebrate the feast, not with the old yeast, the yeast of malice and wickedness, but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth. I wrote you in my letter not to associate with immoral people, not at all referring to the immoral of this world or the greedy and robbers or idolaters; for you would then have to leave the world. But I now write to you not to associate with anyone named a brother, if he is immoral, greedy, an idolater, a slanderer, a drunkard, or a robber, not even to eat with such a person. For why should I be judging outsiders? Is it not your business to judge those within?

God will judge those outside. "Purge the evil person from your midst."

Why do we tolerate GAYs in the Christian Church? We should throw them out. Any person who supports GAY Marriage should go with them.
Paul tells us clearly that we must do this. His example is parallel.

 

[TwinCrier]

We sure should. My church revoked the membership of two people who were unrepentantly and openly sinning. Not homosexuals, but they were asked not to return unless they renounced their sin. While the church has no way of knowing all the sins it's members commit, we need to take action when that sin is done unashamedly in public.

 

[Unnamed Servant]

We allow sinners to have membership all the time?

Just a thought.

Love-In-Christ,

Unnamed Servant

 

[MarkAnthony]

The thread focused on GAY marriage and lifestyles. The letter from Paul discusses a man that lives with his father's wife. It is all about defiling the marriage bed, a blessed sacrament. The lesser things are handled in the
quote.

I wrote you in my letter not to associate with immoral people,
not at all referring to the immoral of this world or the greedy and robbers or idolaters; for you would then have to leave the world.
But I now write to you not to associate with anyone named a brother, if he is immoral, greedy, an idolater, a slanderer, a drunkard, or a robber, not even to eat with such a person. For why should I be judging outsiders? Is it not your business to judge those within?

So if you are part of those within you can not also be part of those without.
A person who commits the immoral knowingly is without and usually is boasting too. Point them in the right direction...out the door.....

 

[Oblio]

Have you read what the Russian Orthodox Church does when she discovers that a gay marriage has taken place ?

 

[SavedByGrace3]

It is widely reported that there is immorality among you, and immorality of a kind not found even among pagans - a man living with his father's wife. And you are inflated with pride. 3 Should you not rather have been sorrowful? The one who did this deed should be expelled from your midst. I, for my part, although absent in body but present in spirit, have already, as if present, pronounced judgment on the one who has committed this deed, in the name of (our) Lord Jesus: when you have gathered together and I am with you in spirit with the power of the Lord Jesus, you are to deliver this man to Satan 4 for the destruction of his flesh, so that his spirit may be saved on the day of the Lord. Your boasting is not appropriate. Do you not know that a little yeast 5 leavens all the dough? 6 Clear out the old yeast, so that you may become a fresh batch of dough, inasmuch as you are unleavened. For our paschal lamb, Christ, has been sacrificed. Therefore let us celebrate the feast, not with the old yeast, the yeast of malice and wickedness, but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth. I wrote you in my letter not to associate with immoral people, not at all referring to the immoral of this world or the greedy and robbers or idolaters; for you would then have to leave the world. But I now write to you not to associate with anyone named a brother, if he is immoral, greedy, an idolater, a slanderer, a drunkard, or a robber, not even to eat with such a person. For why should I be judging outsiders? Is it not your business to judge those within?

God will judge those outside. "Purge the evil person from your midst."

Why do we tolerate GAYs in the Christian Church? We should throw them out. Any person who supports GAY Marriage should go with them.
Paul tells us clearly that we must do this. His example is parallel.

You are correct. But why stop at just Gays? There are people living in every sort of sin. We cannot just pick on the Gays. Immoral (there goes a bunch), drunks (addictions of any sort), greedy (ouch), idolater (there goes all rebels), slanderers (the wind knocks me down as they rush out the door), robbers (are you being good on your taxes and do you give to God what is His?).
But I agree. The church is overdue for a purge. If we do not do it ourselves then it will be done to us.

1Co 11:31
31 For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged.

1Pe 4:17-18
17 For the time [is come] that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if [it] first [begin] at us, what shall the end [be] of them that obey not the gospel of God?

I am frightened for the church first and then for the nation (speaking of America).
To be so blessed and yet so perverse. And the Lord has been patient for so long.

 

[SavedByGrace3]

We need to be so keen in the area of intercession. Before we carry out any such purge, we would have to spend many many nights and days on our knees in intercession for the lost and the deceived. We need to mourn and cry at the alter before we judge and separate.

Who can say they have done this? If you have not, then you are not qualified to do the judging. You will find yourself out with the purged.
Can you stand the scrutiny of the same light?
I fear this for all of us!

 

[Unnamed Servant]

You are correct. But why stop at just Gays? There are people living in every sort of sin. We cannot just pick on the Gays. Immoral (there goes a bunch), drunks (addictions of any sort), greedy (ouch), idolater (there goes all rebels), slanderers (the wind knocks me down as they rush out the door), robbers (are you being good on your taxes and do you give to God what is His?).
But I agree. The church is overdue for a purge. If we do not do it ourselves then it will be done to us.

1Co 11:31
31 For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged.

1Pe 4:17-18
17 For the time [is come] that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if [it] first [begin] at us, what shall the end [be] of them that obey not the gospel of God?

I am frightened for the church first and then for the nation (speaking of America).
To be so blessed and yet so perverse. And the Lord has been patient for so long.

I definitely agree

 

[MarkAnthony]

Have you read what the Russian Orthodox Church does when she discovers that a gay marriage has taken place ?

Do I really want to know?

It is not how the Russian Church acts that is at issue. GOD should judge those offenses. What is at issue is the fact there exists tolerance in Christ's church for GAY lifestyles. If a Church in itself is in agreement with the GAY position then it is outside of the Body of Christ.

As far as other offenses...the people can repent through confession. I believe that they are outside the Body of Christ and can not return to Him without a truthful confession. We have a forgiving GOD. A convicted murderer still can ask for this mercy. Our churches even strive to help these individuals reach out to JESUS for forgiveness. A confession is the first step to purge oneself of sin and reenter the Body of Christ. Being outside the body prevents the Holy Spirit from dwelling in you and your life is made more difficult as a result.

Being GAY without intention to repent meaning not being gay and especially getting married? is a life long commitment to sin and corruption of the body. Our duty according to Paul is to purge the body to Satan in order to possibly save the soul. And yes we are instructed to Judge amoungst ourselves as to our actions inside the church. I think of this as the way we teach our children how to recover from a sin or mistake and stay in the light.

But a person who wishes to marry in sin is clearly not interested in turning to GOD and should be tossed out the door along with the priest and even the church itself if it is in support of this great offense to JESUS CHRIST.

 

[Crazy Liz]

Do I really want to know?

It is not how the Russian Church acts that is at issue. GOD should judge those offenses. What is at issue is the fact there exists tolerance in Christ's church for GAY lifestyles. If a Church in itself is in agreement with the GAY position then it is outside of the Body of Christ.

Where is the rolleyes smiley when you need it?

Mark, your post simply demonstrates that you are only interested in dictating to others, and not to listening to anyone, even when they happen to agree with you. You seem to be assuming you are the only one who is right and everyone else is wrong. This particular post betrays your attitude.

I don't see any reason to listen to someone who is so obviously not interested in listening to anyone else.

 

[Oblio]

Where is the rolleyes smiley when you need it?

A question I myself have asked quite alot recently

 

[SumTinWong]

Paul I:5 teaches us

Where in the heck did this book come from? Paul 1:5?

Did you mean 1 Corinthians 5:1? Because that is where the text is from...

 

[MarkAnthony]

I am trying to focus on American Christian Churches today. San Francisco just annulled the so called GAY Marriages the Mayor agreed to in the spring. WHO conducted these in the first place? Russia is not the same as America. Our country has seperation of Church and State. We are a seperate self-governing entity. Russia, I believe has a different framework of government support of her church. Or lack thereof in certain cases. Let Russia rule her churches and the churches rule Russia. I am trying to help America.

I also want to point out that the State of Massachusetts has had it's fair share of GAY and sex abuse scandel that has caused some 65 church closings. People do not go to a church that is corrupt or perceived to be. Only the strongest can do this because of their genuine faith and fidelity to GOD. The lack of funds is a case of lack of parishioners. Why is it that it is tolerated and allowed to destruct the houses of prayer at a local level? Is it time to clean house across the board from the bottom up? The foundation of the Church herself has become engulfed with this form of cancer.

The parishioners can not sit back and take orders from the offenders. The parishioners need to embrace their church and purge this evil. This takes great courage and strength to stand up to so called Men of GOD, (not that the women are immune) and evict all HOMOSEXUALS. Christ's Church has become
turned inside out. Many parishioners are now on the outside of the building with the true Church in our Hearts. Why should the offender take ownership of the altar? True Christians need to group together and purge this form of evil from the Church of Christ. They have the option to repent to be saved.

Families are often times afraid to involve their children in churches because of
Sexual misconduct. So they practice at home with a Bible or prayers. How sad it is for the times that even the church herself can not correct this crisis.
Only the people can. They need to congregate. They need to feel safe and not threatened by this form of evil. I dealt with people like this in the 1960's and they were allowed into the church with a watchful eye. Even then, they still managed somehow to corrupt the parish. Just like a snake that enters a house. You can't go to sleep until it is put out the door. HOMOSEXUALITY in
my opinion is the serpent in GOD's house today that needs to be evicted at all levels.

Any priest that is in touch with the Lord will stand behind you on this. Any priest that has compassion for HOMOSEXUALS and is willing to risk his house
or his flock is a fool. This has been proven over and over lately. Please accept my apology for preaching today, I merely want us all to learn a lesson from the Catholic Church Crisis and the Gay Marriage fallout. Don't fall into the ditch!

 

[Oblio]

I am trying to focus on American Christian Churches today. San Francisco just annulled the so called GAY Marriages the Mayor agreed to in the spring. WHO conducted these in the first place? Russia is not the same as America. Our country has seperation of Church and State. We are a seperate self-governing entity. Russia, I believe has a different framework of government support of her church. Or lack thereof in certain cases. Let Russia rule her churches and the churches rule Russia. I am trying to help America

Sorry Mark, your OP wasn't clear that you were focusing on American Churches, I didn't realize that was you main concern. FWIW there are many Russian, Greek, American and other Orthodox Churches in the US. I do not doubt that similar actions would be taken by the Church should the defilement happen here (which is very, very, doubtful).

Also the ROC does not rule Russia, not does Russia rule the ROC anymore (praise God)

 

[@@Paul@@]

A question I myself have asked quite alot recently

How about this one!

Or this one!!

 

[herev]

can I do that?

Hey, that's cool, didn't know I could import them!

 

[TwinCrier]

You learn something new everyday...

 

[@@Paul@@]

can I do that?

Hey, that's cool, didn't know I could import them!

LOL..

hey,, don't copy me.

 

[@@Paul@@]

This enlightenment must have come from God.

 

[herev]

LOL..

hey,, don't copy me.

but your my hero, who else would I copy?