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Alternate Carpark

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*receives hug from notofthisworld*

Matthew 18:20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.

You are in church with us right now.
You are part of the church, people are the church not some building.
The building is irrelevent, but you are not notofthisworld.

You are the apple of God's eye, when you talk to God, He puts everyone else on hold and gives you His undivided attention.
And you will never lose His interest, no matter what you talk to Him about.
Because you are, as Desert Walker has said, God's precious child and He loves just to hear the sound of your voice.
 
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I seriously will always remember that I was honored enough to read The Letter of Alternate Carpark to the Christian Forum.... LOL (but still serious!) Man, I needed to read so much of that... that's what I love about this place, you start out reading someone else's dilemma and wind up being healed and counseled yourself. You guys are true agents of God. A.C., I don't know how you wound up with that crazy name but your words are as compelling, authentic, motivating and humorous as any of Paul's. I mean it.

NOTW, you can come to my church anytime. :) In fact, any church would be blessed and probably know it, to have you as a member. A seeking, dedicated, trusting, fervent lover of God?!? There can never be enough of them in a church!

FYI I'm also looking for my "place" in God's service and like you I am somewhat chomping at the bit.. but I truly believe that when you and I are ready, God will ask of us something He knows we can and will do.
 
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* recieves goodgirl's beautiful words of encouragement with as much humilty as I can muster*

Isn't God amazing, because the only reason I ended up in CF (signed up yesterday)
is because my regular forum home mysteriously can't be found (mystery now solved)

I humbly and joyfully pass on all credit in being able to help and encourage to our glorious God and Father, because you are right goodgirl, we are but agents, messengers, vessels of God's nature.
It is God working through us that impacts people's lives, we are just there to witness it.

And are you aware that God has worked through you goodgirl when you posted your words ? And how much He has ?
Well I'll tell you, hang on a minute..I'm still crying tears of joy.....
You have spoken specific particular words that speak of the immeasurable love that God has for me. Words so specific that only I could be touched so profoundly and deeply by, because God knows me and He knows exactly what to say.


This , I was not expecting either , just like you. God is really good at multi-tasking I must say.
The full impact of these words has not kicked in yet but they will impact every part of my life.
Thanks goodgirl, well done. Very very well done.
 
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Hey tried to make it to church last night but couldn't, got all bummed again :sigh: it's a church we had tried before, my husband liked it but i wasn't so sure, gotta start somewhere. sometimes like yesterday i'm all pumped up then the reality of starting over sets in and it's overwhelming. what if we cant find a church where we all feel like we belong i cant stand the thought of just going to all these different churches looking for the right one :( what are we looking for? the worst part is the longer i don't have a church the more backslid i feel i just feel farther and farther from GOD although at this point it doesn't seem possible to feel any farther from GOD how do i fix this, to force myself to pray and read my bible when :( i don't want to :sigh:seems like the more i need GOD the less able i am to seek him. how do i get back to where i was? if Jesus comes or i die i don't think i'll make it to heaven. how do i forgive everyone i feel hurt by? i wish my husband would help but he's the most apathetic christian i know, truly, none of it seems important to him its like he's spiritually asleep, and i find myself getting more and more resentful to him how bad is that :sigh:
 
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*bows* It is an honour and a fearful privilege to be used by God to bless you notofthisworld.
*kneels and looks toward heaven*
All glory and honour to you my God and Father.
May notofthisworld and goodgirl be enveloped in the peace and security of your love.
May you begin and continue to gently heal their wounds and comfort them though the HolySpirit.

Um..amen...hehe request prayers in public always seem a bit awkward for me.

NOTW, you can come to my church anytime. In fact, any church would be blessed and probably know it, to have you as a member. A seeking, dedicated, trusting, fervent lover of God?!? There can never be enough of them in a church!
I agree..a perfect desciption of who notofthisworld is.:clap:


Oh yeah ..Alternate Carpark...hmm..a long story from a few years ago.:D

Was actually trying for 'Intentionally Banking Right' but it was too long and
my prefered name is 3ntity, pronounced entity or NTT for short, ( rego wouldn't accept this one either (( a sign from God no doubt)))so I think I'm meant to keep Alternative Carpark for this forum and 3ntity for the other one.
 
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notofthisworld said:
Thank you. I don't mind hard advice. i want to do what GOD wants me to do but it feels like I'm not gonna stay saved if I continue like i am. this is so confusing. our church used to be so great so much love GOd really broke through my heart barriers in there. But offenses have come to many. There have been large splits within our larger church fellowship it's seperated families and we are a tiny church and at least three families have left, people I loved. I should say I am a woman with a husband and kids this may be a whole other topic but it figures in here my husband is a christian also but he will not take his place as spiritual leader I have begged him we won't even go to church if I don't say so.I have to make the choices and it scares me because I'm not a good leader. if someone leaves our fellowship they are labeled backsliders and you are advised not to see them or talk to them. we have tried other churches and I do feel led back to this one but then it feels so bad there that it's hard to even go. i am so far from where I was. I know I need to forgive and love unconditionally, but I feel so confused and hurt and yes bitter. I have been to my pastor to ask for his forgiveness before, I thought that would end it but it comes back. It's like everyone is struggling so hard there even the really strong christians just to hang on and we can't help eachother. anyway I do appreciate the truth spoken in love which may not be what I wanna hear but I need an end to this confusion


I have left a church I loved dearly because the pastor started making it clear he thought only those in the church were saved and that just isn't scriptural. (And then he went and shouted at people who left, told those left not to associate with them, etc) The church taught a lot of good things -- the correct things. But it was still a cult.

But don't worry. You will not lose your salvation. You can not. God has promised us that.
You just need to take a step out in faith and find a Bible Believing church that truly wants you to find the place God wants you to be, not just make sure they keep you in their pews.
 
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notofthisworld, you feel backsliden because you have been conditioned to believe that if you are not in a building on sunday with other Christians you will backslide and eventually turn away from God.

But goodgirl has seen something about you that contradicts what you see about yourself.
You ARE passionate for God, otherwise you wouldn't be feeling the way you do.

When I used to attend 'church', this used to be their favourite tactic to keep me coming back, every sunday rain, hail or shine.

"The church is like a big roaring fire, made up of little bits of coal.
each one of you is one of those little bits of coal.
When you stop attending church, it's like taking one of those little bits of coal out of the roaring fire.
And what happens to the coal when it is seperated from the fire and other coals.
It cools down and finally becomes cold and dead.
So don't leave otherwise you will die"

ARGH.. how annoying is that !
What they are saying is that God only operates through people inside 'church' buildings.
It's even on the verge of saying that the 'church' is your foundation instead of Christ.
Well all the fire I have inside me comes directly from my Father and God.
And I am filled when I spend quailty time alone with Him.
And what about the personel deep intimate time with God, which is where we grow, how can you develop this in a 'church' environment.

Oh..and then they'll bring out the heavy artillary and quote scripture like this one.
"Do not forsake the gathering together of the bretheren or something like that"

But that scripture was spoken when Christians used to gather together in homes,
in small numbers and were able to really get to know each other and care for each other.
But todays mentality is , bigger must mean better right ?

Well as I said before notofthisworld, when you and I are fellowshipping in here with the others,
we ARE gathering together and when we do that ,He IS here in the midst of us.
As you have already experienced.

I haven't been in a 'church' building situation for ...hmmm...2 years now yet, strangely enough I'm still on fire,
actually on more fire than when I used to be a church goer.
Of course that does not mean that this is the path that God wants you to take.
That would be foolish and presumptuous to think such a thing.
I shared this with you just to let you know that GOD will be with you no matter where you are or who you are with.

I also was so conditioned that I really doubted for a while that separating myself for a season was right, biblical, the will of God.
Everyone told me I was wrong, but they were just repeating what they had been taught from the pulpit and had never actually thought about it for themselves.
And when confronted or challenged about thier belief , they had no answers but would just quote scripture.

I am not the only one who has been called out of the church environment for a season.
There are many of us and sadly and joyfully we are labeled all sorts of things.
But glory to God because I know my God and on the secure rock Of Jesus Christ do I stand.

When my world collapsed and God asked me to be myself so He could fix me up,
I was still attending a church and I did as God asked and I started to throw off the imitation image of christianity
that we so easily put on to be acceptable to our peers and to fit in to the christian culture.
Nobody in my church could understand what was happening to me, all they could see was that I was losing it,
because I wasn't conforming to the image of what they percieved was correct behaviour, dress etc for a christian, except two people.
Who hahaha happened to be the most respected elders of the church.
They would come up to me and laugh about my anti conformist behaviour and then look into my eyes and say,
God is doing something with you, we know because we were labeled as fanatics in our 20ies many years ago.

Got a bit sided tracked, sorry.

The only thing God is concerned about with you at this moment is your pain and confusion. Stop worrying about all the other issues.
All He can see is you and all He wants is to take care of you, but you must allow Him, I know it feels strange to be the centre of His attention when the world is falling apart around us and others are hurting just as much or more.

Would you not drop everything to comfort and tend to the wounds of your child who has fallen over and is bleeding and distressed ?
Then allow God the pleasure of doing that for you.
 
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