Pastor has multiple affairs

[TheyCallMeDavid]

So you are saying "I feel" means "my opinion"....and not my "feelings" such as sad, joyful, annoyed, tired, heartbroken, afraid....

The verses you gave are about actions...and the result of making correct decision is positive feeling (emotions).

Again, these verses do not tell us how to feel...they tell us how to act in spite of how we are feeling. Neither asks us to state our opinion...just act.

Philippians 4:8 (NIV)8

Finally, brothers and sisters, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable—if anything is excellent or praiseworthy—think about such things..[/QUOTE

Im saying how we 'feel' is animated thru our emotions of sadness, joyfulness, etc... I like to think of Feelings as the way in which I view something/someone/a remark made/ etc... and to that end...I do believe that allowing God to work in our Souls and from studying his Word, that can actually change our Feelings and I can vouch for that in my own life . Now of course, there is the physical feeling when we are jabbed with a pin, or, the emotional feeling when we are sworn at , for instance.

I think HOW or WHAT we feel can be based on personal opinion, but I also believe it is changeable ; for instance...for a very long time when I heard Someone slandering Gods name within my hearing, I wanted to get in their face and ream em up and down . Today with God refining My Soul , I no longer have that feeling and instead I have a feeling that's geared more toward compassion for them making a huge mistake and for not realizing the truth about who God is and Gods love for them. That is one of many ways in which my Feeling(s) got altered. God can actually change and modify our feelings, thoughts, ambitions, motives, will , actions , decisions, responses, et al... to where they become Christlike . God can even change the sexual orientation a Person has . So when it comes to the Soul and what God can do, it is virtually unlimited along with our cooperation and submission. Ive heard Peoples testimonies after getting saved, that they no longer hate others... and hate is a pretty strong feeling and outward emotion.

 

[bhsmte]

I partly agree, partly disagree, iambren. I don't like the mega-church model for several reasons. One of the reasons is it can become a personality cult led by one charismatic man (by charismatic I don't mean as in the gifts of the Spirit). This does not always happen but I think such problems are more likely. Someone posted a news article about that church. I think I like how they handled the situation. The pastor was immediately let go and the congregation was told why, without being told anything too specific. It looks like they at least found someone right away to be an interim pastor. I don't see any point of having the congregation confront the failed pastor. Emotions are raw and that would make them even more raw. A confrontation would not bring closure - it would just get people even more upset and worked up for no real purpose. There is also the potential for violence when a situation is heated. On the other hand, letting the pastor go and keeping the reason a secret would not work, I agree. This is all a sad thing.

Completely agree on the issue with mega churches being more likely to become personality cults for charismatic pastors. I attended one the largest mega churches in the Midwest for a number of years, the paster reminded me of a hollywood character, always seeking attention, writing new books and promoting them, bringing celebrities on stage to impress etc. etc.. The place, was basically a marketing machine and they are quite good at it.

 

[bhsmte]

Sharing God's word is different than telling someone how they "should" feel.

I agree. Having differing opinions is one thing. We can explain why we disagree (hopefully as objectively as possible), but, when one actually thinks they know what the other person believes or thinks better than the person themselves, that is the ultimate sign of arrogance, while showing zero empathy towards respecting a differing opinion.

 

[blackribbon]

I think HOW or WHAT we feel can be based on personal opinion, but I also believe it is changeable ; for instance...for a very long time when I heard Someone slandering Gods name within my hearing, I wanted to get in their face and ream em up and down . Today with God refining My Soul , I no longer have that feeling and instead I have a feeling that's geared more toward compassion for them making a huge mistake and for not realizing the truth about who God is and Gods love for them. That is one of many ways in which my Feeling(s) got altered. God can actually change and modify our feelings, thoughts, ambitions, motives, will , actions , decisions, responses, et al... to where they become Christlike . God can even change the sexual orientation a Person has . So when it comes to the Soul and what God can do, it is virtually unlimited along with our cooperation and submission. Ive heard Peoples testimonies after getting saved, that they no longer hate others... and hate is a pretty strong feeling and outward emotion.

And SOMEONE talked to you about your bad behavior and you suddenly changed because you saw the light thanks to their godly guidance?....or did GOD lay this on your heart and HE changed your heart.

 

[TheyCallMeDavid]

And SOMEONE talked to you about your bad behavior and you suddenly changed because you saw the light thanks to their godly guidance?....or did GOD lay this on your heart and HE changed your heart.

Both actually.