Passion parties

[Paradoxum]

Oh I agree. Just like spouses should give each other their bodies, some can take it the extreme of "Give me sex or else!" kind things. Which sadly some christian man rape their wives for sex because they take that verse to the extreme.

I'm not comfortable with rules like "spouses should give each other their bodies". I think relationships should be relational, not rule based. It should be based on care, understanding, and love for the other, not on having sex just because they rules in a book say so. One's Love should be treated as a person, not as part property, and not as a sex doll.

I'm not saying you think like that, I'm just saying why I don't like that phrasing. One should treat the other with consideration and care for their thoughts, feelings and desires, rather than simply doing it because the book says so.

I hope you don't take this a criticism of you, because I don't mean that.

 

[Joykins]

I'm not comfortable with rules like "spouses should give each other their bodies". I think relationships should be relational, not rule based. It should be based on care, understanding, and love for the other, not on having sex just because they rules in a book say so. One's Love should be treated as a person, not as part property, and not as a sex doll.

I'm not saying you think like that, I'm just saying why I don't like that phrasing. One should treat the other with consideration and care for their thoughts, feelings and desires, rather than simply doing it because the book says so.

I hope you don't take this a criticism of you, because I don't mean that.

I have a problem with the part where it says the husband and wife shouldn't abstain from sex except by mutual agreement for a period of time. Since I agree with a consent-based ethic, I think a spouse should always have the ability to turn down sex for any reason.

 

[Eudaimonist]

My point more or less that if you want to have sex, then it should be with your spouse. Your sexy toy should not be the first thing that pops into your mind.

I don't think anyone here is saying that sex toys should replace sex with one's spouse altogether. Merely that there's nothing wrong with having sex toys in addition to regular sex.

If a woman is avoiding sex with her husband altogether, it's not sex toys that are the problem. It's the relationship.


eudaimonia,

Mark

 

[HighwayMan]

It's the reason why I can't identify with the majority of the Christian community either - it is just as obsessed with sex as the rest of society, but it just attaches some silly waiting game thinking that somehow it "pleases" God. Proof of what a joke it is is the fact that Christian marriages end up in divorce as often, or even more often, then secular ones. There is nothing special or holy about the majority of them.

 

[Paradoxum]

I have a problem with the part where it says the husband and wife shouldn't abstain from sex except by mutual agreement for a period of time. Since I agree with a consent-based ethic, I think a spouse should always have the ability to turn down sex for any reason.

 

[Melshezidek]

I personally think this sort of thing is somewhat perverse. But that's just MHO

 

[Nithavela]

I have 2 friends that are supposed to be Christians that have Passion Parties. I didn't know what this was until I did a search online. Now I am very upset with them. In my opinion this would be like me distributing pornography to other men. Do I have a reason to be concerned or am I just over-reacting?

You are overreacting, not only by asking yourself about being concerned, but that you doubt their religion because they buy sex toys is ridiculous to the max. What is this I don't even...

Thou shallt not use vibrators, except the pink ones with the bunny ears.

 

[CounselorForChrist]

I have a problem with the part where it says the husband and wife shouldn't abstain from sex except by mutual agreement for a period of time. Since I agree with a consent-based ethic, I think a spouse should always have the ability to turn down sex for any reason.

Problem with that is even non-christians studies have shown deny sex to much leads the spouse to feel neglected and hence cheating happens. Obviously I am not saying the person should cheat. But why tempt fate (as one would say)?

I've met many wives who rarely have sex with their husband simply because they don't want to for any number of reasons. Granted this gets into a billion other details such as maybe the wife has her period and doesn't want to have sex. So he should respect that. Or maybe shes just not satisfied so the husband should learn what does satisfy her in bed...etc.

I think alot of non-christians assume the saying about don't deny each other means you can forable have sex if denied. But thats not what it means. If anything its rape at that point. But what its saying is humans like sex. If your married don't use sex as a weapon.

 

[Eudaimonist]

I've met many wives who rarely have sex with their husband simply because they don't want to for any number of reasons.

The reason is almost certainly not that she is able to touch on her own.

Rather, it is almost certainly that the relationship is falling apart and there are deep issues that need to be addressed. It's not because she "doesn't want to have sex". Rather, it's because she no longer wants to have sex with the individual that is her husband.

Truth.


eudaimonia,

Mark

 

[Cearbhall]

Problem with that is even non-christians studies have shown deny sex to much leads the spouse to feel neglected and hence cheating happens. Obviously I am not saying the person should cheat. But why tempt fate (as one would say)?

If someone cheats because there are times when his or her partner truly doesn't want to have sex, then that person doesn't deserve to be in a relationship. Hopefully the partner finds out about the cheating and ends the relationship.

 

[katautumn]

I think there is a reasonable threshold between what's okay and what isn't. For example, the pastor of a former church I attended, his wife sells sex toys and he talks up her business from the pulpit. Can you imagine?! A pastor encouraging women in his congregation to buy vibrators from his wife!

This is just me, but I think sex toys party are kind of gross. I went to one once with my sister and it was just a bunch of raunchy talk that had nothing to do with enhancing marital relations and was more of a nasty gossip fest about "boring husbands" and "husbands who can't keep it up". At one point the consultant walked around smearing some sort of edible lube all over everyone's arms and told us to lick them off. I was like, "uh, no". My sister did it and ended up sick, throwing up all night. I mean, do we really need penis shaped sugar cookies?

Another thing is that this should be something couples do together, not something shared between gal pals. What happens in your bedroom should be your business, not your co-workers' and friends'. If you absolutely must use sex toys, it should be something the two partners agree upon and purchase together in a discreet manner.

But that's just me. I'm not a prude, but I think what takes place behind closed doors between my husband and I is sacred and not subject for raunchy gossip at a friend's house.

 

[nftty00]

I see why you would feel a bit weird but it cant be compared to you distributing porn to other men. the only thing that would be comparable to that is women distributing porn to other women. porn is porn. passion party doesn't have porn

if someone feels sex toys are immoral then that is their personal decision

 

[selfinflikted]

I mean, do we really need penis shaped sugar cookies?

Definitely, yes, without question.

 

[KitKatMatt]

Sugar cookies of any kind is a good thing!

I wonder, are prices lower for goods in passion parties than in stores? It seems like the perfect place to jack up prices, but then again these things are super expensive anyways. Hmm, more research is needed.

 

[katautumn]

Sugar cookies of any kind is a good thing!

I wonder, are prices lower for goods in passion parties than in stores? It seems like the perfect place to jack up prices, but then again these things are super expensive anyways. Hmm, more research is needed.

They're like most other multi-level marketing scheme home parties. The biggest discount is for the hostess of the party.

ETA: Sugar cookies are awesome, but something about using teeth on anything that resembles a phallus is just...no.

 

[Nithavela]

What about bananas?

 

[katautumn]

What about bananas?

Eh, the first thing I think of when I eat a banana isn't "penis". I'm talking about candies and cookies and other edibles that are distinctly peen shaped.

 

[Nithavela]

Eh, the first thing I think of when I eat a banana isn't "penis".

Here, let me change that.

The Big Banana - YouTube

 

[Cute Tink]

FYI, to the OP and other people unfamiliar with Passion Parties (I have been to 3, all with different hostesses), the ordering is often done in private and the hostess does not get to discuss your purchases with the other customers without your consent. There are plenty of items available for couples that encourage intimacy (like massage oils and other massage implements), not just sex toys.