Parallels with what is or could be going on with Trump and Star Wars Episode III...?

[Neogaia777]

Parallels with what is or could be going on with Trump and this nation right now (possibly) and Star Wars Episode III...?

I can't help but have all of this that is going on right now remind of maybe my favorite movie in the Star Wars series, which is hands down Episode III, etc...?

And I thought it might be fun to discuss drawing some possible parallels with it with what is going on right now, or what could happen or be going on right now if Trump succeeds, etc...?

If you have any YouTube clips, or know any lines from the movie, feel free to post them and talk about them, etc...

I'm just gonna go off what I can recall right now, etc...

"Did I ever tell you the story of Darth Sidious, he was Dark Lord of the Sith who became so powerful, the only thing he was afraid of, was, of course, losing his power, etc"...

"We will have to take control of the Senate in order to secure a peaceful transition"...

"Down a dark path, or down a dark line of reasoning, or to a dark place this will take us"...

"He won't give up his power, I've just learned a terrible truth, the chancellor is a Dark Lord of the Sith, the one we've been looking for"...

"Anakin, my allegiance is to the Republic, to Democracy!"

"This is how liberty (democracy) dies, with thunderous cheers of applause"...

"The attempt on my life (or to take me out/down) (by the Democrats) has failed, the Jedi (Democrats) are now an enemy of the Republic (Trump)"...

"All the remaining Jedi (Democrats) must be hunted down and defeated" (killed, beheaded, persecuted, maybe publicly, etc)...

"The Republic will now be reformed and reorganized into the First Galactic Empire!, for a more safe (prosperous, rich) and secure society"...

That's all I can think of right now...

Anyone care to note any interesting others, etc...?

That movie though, there are a ton, a ton, of parallels in it to what's going on right now, or could go on if Trump is allowed to succeed, etc...

One of my most bestest all time favorite movies of all time, must have seen it a hundred times, etc...

This is just kind of for fun... "Kind of" anyway... Depends on what actually happens, etc...?

Anyway,

God Bless!

 

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Yah, I agree. Revenge of the Sith was a way underrated movie. Pretty dark too when he went in to kill all the young Jedi kids.

If Disney were wise they should record new sound bytes of James Earl Jones doing Vader. Put them in the vault and bring em out in future movies.

 

[lasthero]

"Did I ever tell you the story of Darth Sidious, he was Dark Lord of the Sith who became so powerful, the only thing he was afraid of, was, of course, losing his power, etc"...

...you botched up the line.

It's one of the best scenes in that entire movie, and you botched it up. Come on, man!

'Did you ever hear the Tragedy of Darth Plagueis the wise? I thought not. It's not a story the Jedi would tell you. It's a Sith legend. Darth Plagueis was a Dark Lord of the Sith, so powerful and so wise he could use the Force to influence the midichlorians to create life... He had such a knowledge of the dark side that he could even keep the ones he cared about from dying. The dark side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural. He became so powerful... the only thing he was afraid of was losing his power, which eventually, of course, he did. Unfortunately, he taught his apprentice everything he knew, then his apprentice killed him in his sleep. It's ironic he could save others from death, but not himself.'

 

[Neogaia777]

...you botched up the line.

It's one of the best scenes in that entire movie, and you botched it up. Come on, man!

I was paraphrasing a bit, and adding a few words, taking a little liberty and changing a few of them to try and make it a more relevant parallel to what was going on now, and it was just off the top of my head that I was doing it also, etc, thinking about what was going on now, etc...

But, yeah, I botched it, sorry...

Very interesting with what's going on right now though, don't you think...?

Or could possibly happen, etc...

Not that it's absolutely going to though....

Or happen "just exactly that way" or be the "exact same story", etc, but the parallels are very interesting though...?

God Bless!

 

[lasthero]

I was paraphrasing a bit, and adding a few words, taking a little liberty and changing a few of them to try and make it a more relevant parallel to what was going on now, and it was just off the top of my head that I was doing it also, etc, thinking about what was going on now, etc...

But, yeah, I botched it, sorry...

God Bless!

Your Star Wars fan card has been revoked. You can reapply on May 4, 2022

 

[Neogaia777]

Your Star Wars fan card has been revoked. You can reapply on May 4, 2022

Sorry man...

Lol...

God Bless!

 

[Bobber]

Parallels with what is or could be going on with Trump and this nation right now (possibly) and Star Wars Episode III...?

I think you've missed it all together. I think you need to look to the first two Star Wars movies, "A New Hope" which I think was the first and best by the way, (and why do they feel they need to make sequels of everything) and the second movie, "The Empire Strikes Back"

Even the title...."A New Hope" That's EXACTLY what all forgotten Americans felt when Trump came on the scene one who would bring the jobs back or at least do everything in his power to do so. Not having the other side say those jobs and hope aren't coming back and you need to get over it! Darth Vader represented as globalism, totalitarianism, silencing one's opponent with continual censorship or cancel culture. Silence people at any cost. Can't you see this?

Or maybe how about considering another movie...Hunger Games. An Empire of 12 Districts now having the serve the Capital. (the coastal cities) Oh those other Districts don't really have a say in any matter for by gosh the Capital sure want to get rid of the Electoral College. So give service to US, Districts but we'll call the shots!

"Anakin, my allegiance is to the Republic, to Democracy!"

No offence Neogaia but if the Dems like you'd compare them to noble Obiwan above were interested in Democracy they wouldn't have barred the door from allowing poll watchers into some of the stations in this last election. And even at times they did....what 50 feet away?

 

[FireDragon76]

I don't think Star Wars is deeply political (well, except for the latest films from Disney, but that's another story), but I do think there was some poking fun of politics in a few places ("you're either with me or you're against me" is more or less what George W. Bush said at one time, also the Trade Federation's viceroy, Newt Gunray, is an obvious reference to Newt Gingrich and Ronald Reagan).

 

[Neogaia777]

I think you've missed it all together. I think you need to look to the first two Star Wars movies, "A New Hope" which I think was the first and best by the way, (and why do they feel they need to make sequels of everything) and the second movie, "The Empire Strikes Back"

Even the title...."A New Hope" That's EXACTLY what all forgotten Americans felt when Trump came on the scene one who would bring the jobs back or at least do everything in his power to do so. Not having the other side say those jobs and hope aren't coming back and you need to get over it! Darth Vader represented as globalism, totalitarianism, silencing one's opponent with continual censorship or cancel culture. Silence people at any cost. Can't you see this?

Or maybe how about considering another movie...Hunger Games. An Empire of 12 Districts now having the serve the Capital. (the coastal cities) Oh those other Districts don't really have a say in any matter for by gosh the Capital sure want to get rid of the Electoral College. So give service to US, Districts but we'll call the shots!



No offence Neogaia but if the Dems like you'd compare them to noble Obiwan above were interested in Democracy they wouldn't have barred the door from allowing poll watchers into some of the stations in this last election. And even at times they did....what 50 feet away?

Do you know that Episode 3 is part of a trilogy prequel to the others, A New Hope (Episode 4), The Empire Strikes Back (Episode 5), and Return of the Jedi (Episode 6), and were ones (The prequel trilogy) (1,2, and 3) were ones George Lucas already had the stories for and had in mind when he made all the ones we all know about so well already (4,5, and 6)...?

So they were not "new" (1,2, and 3) but were part of the whole story of the original Star Wars, George Lucas just could not make those back then, so he did it later, etc, but they take place before, etc, and all 6 episodes both are and were always meant to be one whole story all centered around Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader mainly, etc, and his story from a young boy (episode 1) to being and becoming a Jedi, then becoming a Sith (episode 3) and then his final redemption at the very end, etc, (episode 6, etc)...

Luke is just part of the story, he plays a part in having his Father redeemed at the end, etc, but the whole thing is really all about Anakin Skywalker, or Darth Vader, etc...

Don't know if you knew that or not, but 3 is my favorite, etc, cause it is when Anakin Skywalker becomes Darth Vader, etc... And it's favorite for many other reasons, etc... How the Empire came to be, etc, the Emperor, etc, The Sith, etc...

And you kind of have to watch those others (1,2, and 3) to get the whole story of 4, 5, and 6, etc...

But the very newest ones, where they supposedly tried to continue the story after 6, being 7, 8, and 9, were never a part of George Lucas original plans, nor were they even written or thought up by Lucas, but Disney, etc, and are more commonly referred to by all the people I know as "disaster 1, disaster 2, and disaster 3", etc, and I couldn't agree more, they really were "crap", etc...

But not episodes 1, 2, and 3 though, you really should watch them in sequence and order, and all six of them together in sequence if you can, etc...

Anyway,

God Bless!

 

[Goonie]

I think you've missed it all together. I think you need to look to the first two Star Wars movies, "A New Hope" which I think was the first and best by the way, (and why do they feel they need to make sequels of everything) and the second movie, "The Empire Strikes Back"

Even the title...."A New Hope" That's EXACTLY what all forgotten Americans felt when Trump came on the scene one who would bring the jobs back or at least do everything in his power to do so. Not having the other side say those jobs and hope aren't coming back and you need to get over it! Darth Vader represented as globalism, totalitarianism, silencing one's opponent with continual censorship or cancel culture. Silence people at any cost. Can't you see this?

Or maybe how about considering another movie...Hunger Games. An Empire of 12 Districts now having the serve the Capital. (the coastal cities) Oh those other Districts don't really have a say in any matter for by gosh the Capital sure want to get rid of the Electoral College. So give service to US, Districts but we'll call the shots!

No offence Neogaia but if the Dems like you'd atvlecompare them to noble Obiwan above were interested in Democracy they wouldn't have barred the door from allowing poll watchers into some of the stations in this last election. And even at times they did....what 50 feet away?

Except poll watchers were no barred, at theast no credible evidence of this, though unofficial watchers I do believe tried to get in and were thrown out. And yes the courts ruled that watchers must be allowed within 6ft of the count, unlike the previous 20ft.

 

[Goonie]

Except poll watchers were no barred, at theast no credible evidence of this, though unofficial watchers I do believe tried to get in and were thrown out. And yes the courts ruled that watchers must be allowed within 6ft of the count, unlike the previous 20ft.

Just a clarification, whilst republican watchers were not barred, there was an incident in Michigan where a number of both parties were denied entry after leaving for lunch and not signing out.

 

[Bobber]

Do you know that Episode 3 is part of a trilogy prequel to the others, A New Hope (Episode 4), The Empire Strikes Back (Episode 5), and Return of the Jedi (Episode 6), and were ones (The prequel trilogy) (1,2, and 3) were ones George Lucas already had the stories for and had in mind when he made all the ones we all know about so well already (4,5, and 6)...?

So they were not "new" (1,2, and 3) but were part of the whole story of the original Star Wars, George Lucas just could not make those back then, so he did it later, etc, but they take place before, etc, and all 6 episodes both are and were always meant to be one whole story all centered around Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader mainly, etc, and his story from a young boy (episode 1) to being and becoming a Jedi, then becoming a Sith (episode 3) and then his final redemption at the very end, etc, (episode 6, etc)...

Yes true that's correct the first movie that was made "A New Hope" was actually Part 4 of the saga and "Empire Strikes Back" Part 5 In my brain I'm always thinking of them as the first movie made and Empire the second. Putting the discussion of the political comparison aside and just to talk about Star Wars I always thought if Lucas was going to all this he should have just done it all at that time. It was many years until he got back to the project and what if he would have died through those years? A legacy left of a project with the first three parts of the story never told? And you're right the overall story theme is about Anakin but really the spirit of how people think about it is Luke Skywalker, Han Solo and the rest the gang.

Little triva, many believe Lucas really lifted the "Wizard of Oz" story and futurized it to come up with "A New Hope"

Princess Leia....Dorthy
C-3PO............Tin Man
R2D2..............Toto
Chewbacca.....The Lion
Darth Vader.....The Witch
The Death Star..The Witch's Castle

Lucas was asked about this in an interview and he smiled and said, "No comment."

More thoughts I thought it was sad how they treated Mark Hamill (not personally but artistically) in the bringing back of Luke Skywalker. It was obvious in hearing him speak as an actor he wasn't happy about it either and while usually I don't like to see actors give their opinions on what they're told to do...I think he was warranted to be disillusioned. What was the franchisee thinking! Skywalker was the heart and life of the Star Wars at least in the minds of the fans and to see him end up as some disgruntled fictional character didn't make sense.

A part of me if I were him as an actor wouldn't even have done it if I couldn't see the script beforehand and see if it was going to be meaningful in how they were going to portray Luke. Was it going to be fun? The other part of me I might have done it for the money but wouldn't have enjoyed it. Hammill I think knows Skywalker shouldn't have ended up with a destiny that he did. Never had a true feel that that's what Skywalker would become.

I have seen all the films except Han Solo, not at the theatre but buying dics at cheap prices at Walmart and can't say I'm a super fan of them at all. Yeah great special effects but even they feel a little bit old after a while. One film I did enjoy was the offshoot story, "Rogue One". That stands out with "A New Hope" as the best of the franchise at least to me.