Padded Bras And Such.

[PhilosophicalBluster]

I believe the proper idiom is "look before you leap".

I believe the proper idiom is "Wear a condom".

 

[Robbie_James_Francis]

The way I see it, it's just part of human relationships. You don't meet someone or go on a date and tell them all your deepest issues. Everyone naturally presents the best of themselves and if a relationship ensues you share more about yourself naturally.

Everyone fools potential partners. Would any of us go out wearing our worst clothes, having not washed or groomed and expect to get a date? It's not about male or female, it's universal that we put ourselves in the best light.

It's no more deceptive to go out with a padded bra than it is to go out and meet someone without mentioning that you look like hell in the morning.

 

[Washington]

The way I see it, it's just part of human relationships. You don't meet someone or go on a date and tell them all your deepest issues. Everyone naturally presents the best of themselves and if a relationship ensues you share more about yourself naturally.

Everyone fools potential partners. Would any of us go out wearing our worst clothes, having not washed or groomed and expect to get a date? It's not about male or female, it's universal that we put ourselves in the best light.

It's no more deceptive to go out with a padded bra than it is to go out and meet someone without mentioning that you look like hell in the morning.

Sorry, but being ungroomed, unwashed, and poorly dressed is readily apparent. No one would think otherwise upon meeting such a person. But meeting a woman with enhanced breasts is being as deceptive as telling a date that you are independently wealthy. It may not matter that you are or not, but the idea of the lie of wealth was to make you more appear desirable than you really are. It was a purposeful deception to present yourself as something your not. A something that is not at verifiable at the time, which is what the deceiver is counting on.

 

[Joachim]

Breast implants are not a major issue facing the country. There is also nothing wrong with them. Padded bras simply don't figure as one of my key issues in life. No man is going to not sleep with a willing woman because she enhanced the image of her tatas. I can't think of something more superficial than worrying if the breasts are real or not. Has not one thing to do with who they are as a person. I tend to wear my hair in a certain style. It's not a reflection on who I am inside, it is a reflection on I have worn my hair the same way for a long time and it's just what I'm used to. If I go bald, I probably will get a toupee simply so I can look in the mirror and see familiarity.

 

[Robbie_James_Francis]

Sorry, but being ungroomed, unwashed, and poorly dressed is readily apparent. No one would think otherwise upon meeting such a person. But meeting a woman with enhanced breasts is being as deceptive as telling a date that you are independently wealthy. It may not matter that you are or not, but the idea of the lie of wealth was to make you more appear desirable than you really are. It was a purposeful deception to present yourself as something your not. A something that is not at verifiable at the time, which is what the deceiver is counting on.

But, again, there is a lot of similar deception people engage in when meeting others. Pretending to be more confident, popular or funnier/smarter than you are is normal behaviour.

 

[Athene]

Sorry, but being ungroomed, unwashed, and poorly dressed is readily apparent. No one would think otherwise upon meeting such a person. But meeting a woman with enhanced breasts is being as deceptive as telling a date that you are independently wealthy. It may not matter that you are or not, but the idea of the lie of wealth was to make you more appear desirable than you really are. It was a purposeful deception to present yourself as something your not. A something that is not at verifiable at the time, which is what the deceiver is counting on.

This is silly, whichever way women are in the wrong. If we go au natural, no make up, leg and under arm hair flowing freely, breasts hanging around near our belly button then we're considered grotesque and un-natural for not 'taking care of ourselves'. If we wear make up, shave extra body hair, strap our boobs up in bra's or have them enlarged through implants then we're deliberately deceiving men by making it appear we are something that we are not.

Let me be blunt, if you take personal insult over the perceived deception of a woman with breast implants or a padded bra making her chest look bigger , then it's your problem, not hers or anyone's for that matter. There is nothing wrong or objectionable in somebody who wishes to present themselves in the best possible way especially when on the look for a mate -it's natural. We can't make our bums turn vivid colours in order to attract a mate - and even if we could it wouldn't make a difference as we generally keep that part of ourselves covered up, so instead we use artificial means which include for women making our boobs look bigger - some through bra's, others through surgery.

 

[Washington]

This is silly, whichever way women are in the wrong. If we go au natural, no make up, leg and under arm hair flowing freely, breasts hanging around near our belly button then we're considered grotesque and un-natural for not 'taking care of ourselves'. If we wear make up, shave extra body hair, strap our boobs up in bra's or have them enlarged through implants then we're deliberately deceiving men by making it appear we are something that we are not.

Whoa, looks like I hit a real sore spot here. I'll try to keep my speculation about you to a minimum.

Wearing make up and shaving extra body hair, are readily apparent modifications. Everybody immediately recognizes them for what they are. Even wearing a bra is a given expectation. Men recognize that almost all women's breasts are supported or are at least ensconced in a bra, and that they may not be as perky when not contained. These are expected. Padded, enhanced boobs are not.

Let me be blunt, if you take personal insult over the perceived deception of a woman with breast implants or a padded bra making her chest look bigger , then it's your problem, not hers or anyone's for that matter.

I don't take it as any kind of insult or consider it a problem, just an unethical deception on par with my example of exaggerating one's personal wealth. The woman is trying to pass herself off as something she's not.

There is nothing wrong or objectionable in somebody who wishes to present themselves in the best possible way especially when on the look for a mate -it's natural. We can't make our bums turn vivid colours in order to attract a mate - and even if we could it wouldn't make a difference as we generally keep that part of ourselves covered up, so instead we use artificial means which include for women making our boobs look bigger - some through bra's, others through surgery.

Okay, I'll take that as a vote for: "It is ethical to deceive others in order to attract them."

 

[Robbie_James_Francis]

Okay, I'll take that as a vote for: "It is ethical to deceive others in order to attract them."

I take it that if you were chatting someone up you'd lead with "Hi, here's a picture of me naked. I've written a list of the mistakes I've made in my life, my character weaknesses and the complexes and childhood issues identified by my therapist on the back."

Sorry to be facetious, but I just can't see how avoiding the above is any different from wearing a padded bra.

 

[Athene]

Whoa, looks like I hit a real sore spot here. I'll try to keep my speculation about you to a minimum.

He shoots, he misses.

I don't take it as any kind of insult or consider it a problem, just an unethical deception on par with my example of exaggerating one's personal wealth. The woman is trying to pass herself off as something she's not.

It's a poor comparison actually. A woman is greater then her cup size, or to put it another way - her personal identity isn't in some mysterious way tied to her bust measurements, so if she has a boob job or wears a padded bra she's just changing the size of her bust, she's not pretending to be somebody else.

In todays world personal wealth is a measure of personal success, if you have lots of money then you probably have a good job and you're a good marriage prospect. To lie about such a thing is incredibly deceptive and reflects badly on your personality.

Okay, I'll take that as a vote for: "It is ethical to deceive others in order to attract them."

Birds do it, bees do it, even educated fleas do it. It is not unethical to make oneself appear more appealing and attractive to somebody you are wanting to mate with.

 

[morningstar2651]

Everybody has their secrets...

 

[Washington]

if she has a boob job or wears a padded bra she's just changing the size of her bust, she's not pretending to be somebody else.

Sorry, but your attempt to minimize the deception as "just changing the size of her bust" is lame and doesn't fly. And if she isn't pretending to "be somebody else" as in, being someone with larger breasts than she really has, then our definitions of "pretending" are quite different.