Out of body experience

[Immanuel]

Immanuel,
I think it's awesome that you are working in the school system. Those kids need someone to help them know the truth, pray for them & try to protect them from such ungodly practices.
Now I know that some Christian therapists use visualization with their clients, but Im a little leery of that practice. I would definetely be concerned if I felt that this therapist was encouraging TM which appears to be the case.
Little children I believe can see more & experience more from the spirit realm then adults do sometimes.
My friend who was a pastor told me that when his youngest was about 5 years old he said to his dad "can you see him dad? Did you see him there was a huge angel standing rite there & he pointed to a place there in their living room.
We really need to look out for the "babies"

I completely agree gracechick. Kids are very sensitive to the spiritual realm. I think that's another reason why Jesus said to have Faith like a child. They sense things more than we do. Even though they don't know how to verbalize things, they know it.

One of my kids from my last school accepted Christ last Tuesday. i keep in touch with the families and we went out and she accepted Christ. I am giving her a bible and a worship CD w/ scripture so she can memorize it by songs. Still trying to work on some of my other kids. God has been faithful in doing His work in the places that he has put me in.

I just pray that I never turn out to have attitudes like the teahers at the Board of Ed. It's not easy because everyone is so negative and I don't like the fact that they are constantly yelling at the kids and giving them negative feedback. I mean they said things like "Well if you would have listened then,... If you would stop being so dumb like so and so does it.... No that's wrong, wrong, wrong.... that picture looks weird" I hope I dont ever become one of those. I know that kids can sometimes get to you, especially those with such attitudes, but I am praying for myself that I don't.

Thank you Jesus

 

[Teresa_Marie]

I couldnt figure out where to post it so ill put it here. Last night for the 3rd time in my life someone thing happened thats hard for me to explain but ill do my best. I was laying in bad on my back going over thoughts in my head, and saying my prayers in my mind. At some point during that I must have fallen asleep. After that I felt like I was awake again, sliding, drifting off of my bed and heading towards the floor, passing through the bed. I distinctly remember hearing loud noises like objects falling to the floor and shaking. I was so shaken up that I must have realized I wasnt awake but at the same time I could see everything around me, because I saw my myself in bed and was jolted back into consciousness. I was awake then my eyes were open but my body was completly frozen. I tried yelling for help, it seemed like an eternity that I was kept frozen... I dont know how much time went by.. a few seconds.. minutes or what but I didnt like it. I felt like something evil was surrounding me. In my prayer that night I had specifically asked god to send any demons and satanic forces out of me and away from my family... After the time went by I was able to move again and I just closed my eyes and wanted to think it never happened and fell back asleep... but it did happen I remember the entire thing. Someone please tell me what this means. Im not asking if anyone believe what I'm saying here, I can't prove it to you with any scientific evidence... only what I truly know to have happened... Any feed back at all would be appreciated.

Have you heard of sleep apnea? These are common symptoms.

 

[Teresa_Marie]

Have you heard of sleep apnea? These are common symptoms.

Also in Christianity these things do NOT exist. Don't be fooled by what your MIND conjurs up. Dreams mean nothing more than expressing your thoughts in pictures. CHildren are not in touch with any spiritual realm, though they do have grand imaginations.

 

[heron]

Welcome, here Theresa! I agree that sleep apnea is a consideration, and that dreams are usually brain processes. I won't comment on your other statements, because that will take this thread in a totally different direction.

Immanuel, if you don't like the school board, you might consider volunteering yourself! People do that, you know. That's how they get there. It's a demanding position, but that's what public service is all about--people wanting to improve their communities.

Ohps, off track again.

 

[Immanuel]

Dreams mean nothing more than expressing your thoughts in pictures. CHildren are not in touch with any spiritual realm, though they do have grand imaginations.

Thank you for your input, but I have to disagree with you.

Dreams are not just expressing your thoughts in pictures. I believe that God speaks to us in our dreams. God has given me dreams to reveal certain sins about people and had asked me to talk to them. And it was confirmed by the person herself. God reveals himself in dreams. The bible talks about dreams and visions all the time. This is very normal that dreams do mean something.

Also, with children, I believe that God has especially chosen the little ones. I will give you two inccidents that has happened with one little girl. I praise God for her. She's like a little prophet.

One of the girls in church (she's 4 now, but I think she was 3 at the time) One time I was praying with her and she spoke out of the blue for my best friend's health. This girl does not know her and has seen her once when she was a few months old. She knows nothing about the situation because this is something that I did not share with anyone.

Another time when she was praying. She prayed for this one woman we were reaching out to. She asked God to take away this person's sadness and I was stunned. How did she know that she was sad? It's amazing how God uses these little ones to intercede.

Immanuel, if you don't like the school board, you might consider volunteering yourself!

Heron, I am not saying that I don't like the school board. God has put me there and I will work it to my fullest. I just don't like the things that happen there sometimes. These are the places where people really need Jesus Christ. I just want to know how I can make an impact and get rid of the yucky stuff and replace it with God-centered stuff without getting fired. hehee. Since God put me there, I believe he will use me there too. God Bless Heron.

 

[Teresa_Marie]

Thank you for your input, but I have to disagree with you.

Dreams are not just expressing your thoughts in pictures. I believe that God speaks to us in our dreams. God has given me dreams to reveal certain sins about people and had asked me to talk to them. And it was confirmed by the person herself. God reveals himself in dreams. The bible talks about dreams and visions all the time. This is very normal that dreams do mean something.

Also, with children, I believe that God has especially chosen the little ones. I will give you two inccidents that has happened with one little girl. I praise God for her. She's like a little prophet.

One of the girls in church (she's 4 now, but I think she was 3 at the time) One time I was praying with her and she spoke out of the blue for my best friend's health. This girl does not know her and has seen her once when she was a few months old. She knows nothing about the situation because this is something that I did not share with anyone.

Another time when she was praying. She prayed for this one woman we were reaching out to. She asked God to take away this person's sadness and I was stunned. How did she know that she was sad? It's amazing how God uses these little ones to intercede.



Heron, I am not saying that I don't like the school board. God has put me there and I will work it to my fullest. I just don't like the things that happen there sometimes. These are the places where people really need Jesus Christ. I just want to know how I can make an impact and get rid of the yucky stuff and replace it with God-centered stuff without getting fired. hehee. Since God put me there, I believe he will use me there too. God Bless Heron.

You're free to disagree with me and have your own opinion, but, I think instead of relying on opinion we should rely on fact. Don't you agree?

Also, your personal experiences do nothing to change my mind because as we all know we interpret things in ways that fit our own personal feelings and beliefs.

Also, I would not encourage you to bring God into your job in a blatant fashion. You cannot force conversion of the heart or mind. It can ONLY come through God. It is however our duty and obligation to live a life that best reflects the love of God.

 

[gracechick]

Teresa,
yes one is certainly intitled to their throughts, but I believe this is probably the wrong board to be getting much agreement on the fact that the Lord doesn't communicate with us anymore by dreams & visions

...I just don't see to many being in agreement here
I pray soon the Spirit gives you a confirming experience in visions or dreams. Life is hard & having the Lord personally wisper & speak prophecy or guidance into your life or for the sake of someone else is a phenml. experience. Maybe you could tell the Lord you're open to understanding of this...might be suprised what you find

Immanuel,
What an awesome experience in having the little girl speak word like that. I posted a while back about that I believe that one of the greatest generations is being raised up rite now.
We are so close to the end. We are probably going to be so amazed at the annointing falling on our children's generation.
I've heard it prophecied that the latter & former rains will come together like nothing ever experienced bfore. & this is to happen, bcause the harvest is to brought in during this last powerful move.

& that touched me powerfully because of a vision the Lord gave me years ago. It was of a wheat field at nite & a powerful dark storm was moving in over it. The wheat was so ripe it was white, making a crackling sound in the wind & nearly laying over on the ground.

 

[Immanuel]

Teresa,
yes one is certainly intitled to their throughts, but I believe this is probably the wrong board to be getting much agreement on the fact that the Lord doesn't communicate with us anymore by dreams & visions

...I just don't see to many being in agreement here
I pray soon the Spirit gives you a confirming experience in visions or dreams. Life is hard & having the Lord personally wisper & speak prophecy or guidance into your life or for the sake of someone else is a phenml. experience. Maybe you could tell the Lord you're open to understanding of this...might be suprised what you find

Immanuel,
What an awesome experience in having the little girl speak word like that. I posted a while back about that I believe that one of the greatest generations is being raised up rite now.
We are so close to the end. We are probably going to be so amazed at the annointing falling on our children's generation.
I've heard it prophecied that the latter & former rains will come together like nothing ever experienced bfore. & this is to happen, bcause the harvest is to brought in during this last powerful move.

& that touched me powerfully because of a vision the Lord gave me years ago. It was of a wheat field at nite & a powerful dark storm was moving in over it. The wheat was so ripe it was white, making a crackling sound in the wind & nearly laying over on the ground.

AMEN!! GraceChick!!!
I really believe that all things said in the bible is happening. God is pouring out His Spirit out of all those who are willing to recieve His Spirit.

He will soon be separating the goat and the sheeps. It kind of sadens me because many will live in eternal separation from God.

TO Theresa:

I am in no intent of changing your mind. The decision is really up to you to believe what you want to believe. I am just sharing the truths that I have seen and heard and believe they do go in line w/ the bible. It is not only my experience, but I believe that God is speaking to MANY people in this WORLD. Have you heard of the awesome visions that people had of Jesus on the Cross and then being explained later when missionaries come across them? Praise God.

So these things are not opinion. Someone said that a fact is if 3 or more cultures agree on it. And, yes, 3 or more cultures do agree that these things has/is/going to be happening. heheee. Praise God for His Spirit.

As for the School thing, I do not believe in forcing people into Christianity. It's the same way with God. God will not pull and force people into heaven. they will have to make the decision. I am the Lord's messenger, and if He tells me to speak, then I MUST listen in obedience or man, I am not going to be walking out of His will for me.

Teresa, I truly hope that God will bless you in a miraculous way that you may see the glory of God revealed in your life!!!! God Bless you!!!!

GraceChick: God bless you with more and more visions of the things to come!! I am holding onto the vision that God will blow our congegration out of this building. It's so exciting to see the process happening. It's kind of crazy when God says something and you see the process of it happening. God is awesome!! Praise him all the time.

STARFORSAKEN: How are you? I haven't heard from you.

 

[Prophet5]

Your experiences are psychological. Period. It occurs when your Psyche can not take the psychological load/pain any more. It has happened to me more than a thousand times. and the funny thing is, when i feel fine I never have these experiences, but when I start to feel bad again I start to have these experiences again.

Prayer wont help, beliving wont help. Setting your mind to rest with the truth will however (Through psychology, not through "true" faith, whatever that would be).

 

[heron]

I agree that children are disciples, and many are sensitive to the spiritual realm.

I have also heard missionaries say that when they arrived in a nonchristian country, many people asked them to explain who this man Jesus was in their dreams.

Evangelizing on the job....some jobs are more appropriate than others. If you work for yourself, no problem. If you work for a corporation, you are using company time for non-company work, so ethically you should add time to your workday. If you are teaching in a school, you have agreed to come under the standards of the institution, and have probably signed something related to religious tolerance and no proselytizing. Yes, it's a personal decision, but there might be workable options like inviting kids to an outside event, or encouraging their conversations. Come to think of it, I remember a teacher in 8th grade who invited the class to come to a crusade, because he was in the choir. Some kids came just to see him in a robe!

 

[Immanuel]

I agree that children are disciples, and many are sensitive to the spiritual realm.

I have also heard missionaries say that when they arrived in a nonchristian country, many people asked them to explain who this man Jesus was in their dreams.

Evangelizing on the job....some jobs are more appropriate than others. If you work for yourself, no problem. If you work for a corporation, you are using company time for non-company work, so ethically you should add time to your workday. If you are teaching in a school, you have agreed to come under the standards of the institution, and have probably signed something related to religious tolerance and no proselytizing. Yes, it's a personal decision, but there might be workable options like inviting kids to an outside event, or encouraging their conversations. Come to think of it, I remember a teacher in 8th grade who invited the class to come to a crusade, because he was in the choir. Some kids came just to see him in a robe!

I agree Heron, I will submit to the authorities that are above me, but once I'm off of work, then I am free to do whatever I want. hehee.

That's why I am building relationship not only with the kids, but with their families. I still keep in touch with many of the kids from the last school that I worked at. I met up with her last week and she accepted Christ. I am hoping to reach out, not only to the kids, but also to the families.

Thank you Heron. I will be wise about it. =)

 

[heron]

That's great-- you sub regularly, and keep this level of commitment!? Wow. I'm always impressed when I see elementary teachers show up at high school concerts...teachers who support the kids years later.

I know I'm more conservative about evangelizing at work than most Christians, and will have to face Jesus about it some day-- but I value ethics and feel that character shouldn't be sacrificed for the sake of a message. It sounds like you've struck a wise balance.

 

[Immanuel]

That's great-- you sub regularly, and keep this level of commitment!? Wow. I'm always impressed when I see elementary teachers show up at high school concerts...teachers who support the kids years later.

I know I'm more conservative about evangelizing at work than most Christians, and will have to face Jesus about it some day-- but I value ethics and feel that character shouldn't be sacrificed for the sake of a message. It sounds like you've struck a wise balance.

I believe that applying the principles of God is also reaching out. Especially w/ kids, the lOVE attention, they crave love. For me, I try to teach them grace, I try to give them unconditional love (thought sometimes it's hard), teach them how to genuniely take care of their friends, showing them grace, teaching them how to appreciate people in their lives, submitting to authority, etc.... the list can go on and on and on.

I think commitment is only a joke. I am only commited to Christ and because of that, I will work with it with all my heart as working for the Lord (col 3:23). Actually, the girl that accepted Christ, I was actually her full time teacher. I work somewhere else now with older kids. I guess when I look at kids, I see so much pain that they go through. It really ____ me (I can't find the word for it).


But Heron, WOW, I don't think I'd be showing up to any High School concert, but I am hoping to take one of my 11 yr old students to the next free Christian concert. I am hoping to meet the parents of this child. It's really exciting how God moves. hehee

I pray for everyone here to experience the AWESOMENESS of the Lord and to indulge in the fullness of Christ!!! The Lord is goooooood and His love endures FOREVER!!!!!

 

[talitha]

WOW, old post..

 

[All4HISglory]

That's what I was thinking! Lol. From 2006. It's awesome to see though. I even saw your responses.

~For Your glory Lord {iPad}

 

[RadMan21]

It's funny that you say this, if you look at my most recent post I try to describe what dreaming really is. I must tell you this was very real what happened to you. This conscientiousness the word we ascribe to these different states is a very abstract matter and term really due to everyones, including myself lack of understanding. I don't know about ur specific experience but sometimes there good things, and sometimes there bad things. As long as your not seeking for this to happen you should be okay (notice once you become conscience it stopped) I believe though that this experience is how all dreams start, our soul/spirit descending/ascending into another realm and existence. It's very complex