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Our Own Resurrection Means Nothing?

Clare73

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Our spirit is not a body.

Our physical spiritual (immortal, sinless, glorious) resurrection body is our spirit's body.
with which we can explore the vast universe, all the amazing physical things HE has created...which if not for us then is it wasted extravagance??
 
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I thought the point of the resurrection was to give us eternal life with Jesus.
Man, without corruption.
John 12:24 Most assuredly, I say to you, unless a grain of wheat
falls into the ground and dies, it remains alone; but if it dies,
it produces much grain.

Our spirit body is being fully formed by the laying down of our lives
for the sake of the elect. By this we are partakers of His Glory, which
is an eternal reward. This is our purpose in life, to be "built up" in Him.

1 Corinthians 15:
41 There is one glory of the sun, another glory of the moon, and another
glory of the stars; for one star differs from another star in glory.
42 So also is the resurrection of the dead
.
The body is sown in corruption, it is raised in incorruption.
44 It is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body.
There is a natural body,
and there is a spiritual body.
49 And as we have borne the image of the man of dust,
we shall also bear the
image of the heavenly.

As for those who are alive at His coming:
51 Behold, I tell you a mystery: We shall not all sleep, but we shall
all be changed—
52 in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet.
For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible,
and we shall be changed.
53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal
must put on immortality.

By this we will be perfected individually, that is a personal identity
that
does not corrupt, but is perfectly one with our maker, while
in harmony with one another.

 
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Our physical spiritual (immortal, sinless, glorious) resurrection body is our spirit's body.
I'll accept this explanation I think.... but angels manifest bodies, both to the shepherds and in Elisha's invisible army etc., etc. So, are we seeing their spirits as if a body, or the spirit body they will have after the resurrection because they will not be resurrected since they never died or...? Will our resurrected body be the same as their bodies they manifest now?

Exploring a physical universe without a way to physically contact it seems moot.
 
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We are human, as is Christ, we are not angelic.

I suspect our glorified human bodies will be as Christ's glorified human body, able to pass through solid matter and to manifest at will.
 
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Shalom Dylan,

In the story of Lazarus and the rich man, Jesus told us that Abraham is in Gehenna/ paradeiso part of hades

The deceased saints in paradeiso part of hades Will be taken to heaven at the rapture :
1 Thessalonians 4:16
 
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When I imagine the Age to Come--so keep in mind I'm merely speaking of what kind of thoughts I have concerning this--is that I will be spending my time loving people, serving people, we are caring for one another--and all God's creatures. Man and beast together in peace, forests and mountains and meadows and rivers that proclaim God's great redemptive goodness all around us.

It is with hands that we love and serve and care. This physical bodily existence is good--it is because of the body that we can love one another and reflect God's goodness in the world as creatures made in His image and likeness; not the body form itself but good works of the body, these reflect God in the world. This is why the Scriptures teach us continuously that what we do in the body even now matters, and that our labors in Christ are not in vain, and to offer our bodies as living sacrifices. For the body matters now, even in its fallen, broken, corrupted, mortal condition full of sin and death--so much more will the body matter in the future ages of ages when it is immortal, incorruptible, and filled with all the the grace and glory of God when He is all in all.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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