Did OT saints have the HS indwelling them as NT saints do today?
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OT Saints & the HS
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arunma
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I would assume so, because Isaiah said that the Spirit of the Lord was upon him (Isaiah 61:1). It is sometimes believed that the Holy Spirit was first given to God's people at the first Pentecost after the resurrection of Christ. But remember that after being baptized by John, even Christ was filled with the Holy Spirit.
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this is one of my favourite passages about the work of the Spirit before Yeshua came:
every time I read that last verse it moves me.
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When reading through Judges a few years ago I realised properly for the first time that the Holy Spirit was indeed very active inthe OT.
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RGL1 said:
Yes, I believe he was born again and belonged to Christ. I'm thinking of Hebrews 11 for one thing, where Paul speaks of Abe's great faith (v. 17-19 specifically). Those in the OT had to look to a future Hope whereas those of us after Christ's walk here on earth look back. Other Scripture to consider would be Romans 4:17-25.
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RGL1 said:
I would have to say yes - Romans 4:3 . . . "Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness."
As far as the Holy Spirit being active in the OT saints - I would have to say yes. We know from Genesis 1:2 that the Holy Spirit was active in the creation. But more on point - without the Holy Spirit where would the prophets messages have come from. Seems only logical that the Holy Spirit was active in their lives.
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RGL1 said:
Yes of course he was. There is no salvation outside of Christ. Abraham looked foreward to the coming of Christ and we look back to His coming.
In Christ,
Kenith
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PETE_
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Ministries Before the New Testament Age
Because the Spirit is by comparison much more prominent in the New Testament records, many have assumed that He was essentially inactive before New Testament times. Just the opposite is true. As mentioned above, He was involved in the creation of the universe, including people (Job 33:4—an ongoing activity). He did not indwell individuals as He does during the present age, and was present with some only intermittently. But He did work in evident ways in and through some, empowering and even being in some (Gen. 41:38; Judg. 3:10; 14:6, 19). The biblical record concerning these ministries is significant for what it does not tell us, in comparison with His ministry during this age, which, as we will see below, is for crucial reasons far more extensive.
As the Person of the Trinity most involved with individuals in the recording of biblical revelation, the Holy Spirit had a nearly continuous ministry throughout the period in which the Old Testament was written. Both the New Testament and the Old Testament tell us that the Holy Spirit spoke through individuals (2 Pet. 1:21; Isa. 59:21). His work thus involved what is described as revelation (disclosure) as well as inspiration (guidance concerning the exact message to be preserved). We might expect that such a ministry concerning Scripture would continue through the apostolic age, and this is confirmed by our Lord’s prediction in the Upper Room Discourse just before His death. There He anticipated the Spirit’s ministry in bringing to the disciples’ minds the exact details of what He had said (Jn. 14:26) and also giving understanding of that material (Jn. 16:14). Strictly speaking, the New Testament never says that the Holy Spirit guided the writers of the New Testament. But the fact that New Testament writers considered their words to be on a par with and one piece with those of the Old Testament writers indicates that they were conscious of God’s guiding, and since it was the province of the Holy Spirit to guide in the giving of Scripture before the New Testament age, we are safe in assuming that He also did during apostolic times (Acts 1:16; 1 Tim. 5:18, etc.).
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