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OT Saints & the HS

arunma

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I would assume so, because Isaiah said that the Spirit of the Lord was upon him (Isaiah 61:1). It is sometimes believed that the Holy Spirit was first given to God's people at the first Pentecost after the resurrection of Christ. But remember that after being baptized by John, even Christ was filled with the Holy Spirit.
 
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this is one of my favourite passages about the work of the Spirit before Yeshua came:
[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]Numbers 11:24[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]So Moses went out and told the people the words of the Lord; and he gathered seventy elders of the people, and placed them all around the tent. [/FONT][FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]11:25[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]Then the Lord came down in the cloud and spoke to him, and took some of the spirit that was on him [Moses] and put it on the seventy elders; and when the spirit rested upon them, they prophesied. But they did not do so again. [/FONT][FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]11:26[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]Two men remained in the camp, one named Eldad, and the other named Medad, and the spirit rested on them; they were among those registered, but they had not gone out to the tent, and so they prophesied in the camp. [/FONT][FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]11:27[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]And a young man ran and told Moses, "Eldad and Medad are prophesying in the camp." [/FONT][FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]11:28[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]And Joshua son of Nun, the assistant of Moses, one of his chosen men, said, "My lord Moses, stop them!" [/FONT][FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]11:29[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]But Moses said to him, "Are you jealous for my sake? Would that all the Lord's people were prophets, and that the Lord would put his spirit on them!" [/FONT]
every time I read that last verse it moves me.
 
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RGL1 said:
Did Abraham belong to Christ? Was he born again?


Yes, I believe he was born again and belonged to Christ. I'm thinking of Hebrews 11 for one thing, where Paul speaks of Abe's great faith (v. 17-19 specifically). Those in the OT had to look to a future Hope whereas those of us after Christ's walk here on earth look back. Other Scripture to consider would be Romans 4:17-25.

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RGL1 said:
Did Abraham belong to Christ? Was he born again?

I would have to say yes - Romans 4:3 . . . "Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness."

As far as the Holy Spirit being active in the OT saints - I would have to say yes. We know from Genesis 1:2 that the Holy Spirit was active in the creation. But more on point - without the Holy Spirit where would the prophets messages have come from. Seems only logical that the Holy Spirit was active in their lives.

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RGL1 said:
Did Abraham belong to Christ? Was he born again?

Yes of course he was. There is no salvation outside of Christ. Abraham looked foreward to the coming of Christ and we look back to His coming.

In Christ,
Kenith
 
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We can see that God preached the Gospel to Abraham. As it says,
And the Scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, preached the gospel beforehand to Abraham, saying, "In you shall all the nations be blessed." (Galatians 3:8)
 
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Ministries Before the New Testament Age


Because the Spirit is by comparison much more prominent in the New Testament records, many have assumed that He was essentially inactive before New Testament times. Just the opposite is true. As mentioned above, He was involved in the creation of the universe, including people (Job 33:4—an ongoing activity). He did not indwell individuals as He does during the present age, and was present with some only intermittently. But He did work in evident ways in and through some, empowering and even being in some (Gen. 41:38; Judg. 3:10; 14:6, 19). The biblical record concerning these ministries is significant for what it does not tell us, in comparison with His ministry during this age, which, as we will see below, is for crucial reasons far more extensive.
As the Person of the Trinity most involved with individuals in the recording of biblical revelation, the Holy Spirit had a nearly continuous ministry throughout the period in which the Old Testament was written. Both the New Testament and the Old Testament tell us that the Holy Spirit spoke through individuals (2 Pet. 1:21; Isa. 59:21). His work thus involved what is described as revelation (disclosure) as well as inspiration (guidance concerning the exact message to be preserved). We might expect that such a ministry concerning Scripture would continue through the apostolic age, and this is confirmed by our Lord’s prediction in the Upper Room Discourse just before His death. There He anticipated the Spirit’s ministry in bringing to the disciples’ minds the exact details of what He had said (Jn. 14:26) and also giving understanding of that material (Jn. 16:14). Strictly speaking, the New Testament never says that the Holy Spirit guided the writers of the New Testament. But the fact that New Testament writers considered their words to be on a par with and one piece with those of the Old Testament writers indicates that they were conscious of God’s guiding, and since it was the province of the Holy Spirit to guide in the giving of Scripture before the New Testament age, we are safe in assuming that He also did during apostolic times (Acts 1:16; 1 Tim. 5:18, etc.).​
http://www.christianforums.com/t3147973-ot-saints-the-hs.html&page=2#_ftn1http://www.christianforums.com/t3147973-ot-saints-the-hs.html&page=2#_ftnref1Karleen, P. S. 1987. The handbook to Bible study : With a guide to the Scofield study system.
 
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