O'Reilly: The ACLU wants to kill your children.

[Randall McNally]

Abortion.

If you believe abortion is a person, abortion = infanticide.

That's not correct. "Infanticide" has a specific meaning, namely the killing of an infant. And to be an infant, one must be born.

So does the euthanasia of children w/ terminal illnesses or even just illnesses like they do in Sweden and the Netherlands.

Perhaps that's what he's talking about. But there are a lot of people, myself included, who need to be convinced that euthanizing a terminally ill individual (or allowing suicide) - at any age - is morally worse than letting them suffer then die.

You can count me among those who question the very foundation of government prohibition against suicide. Perhaps the ACLU asks the same questions I do.

 

[Harpuia]

I find voluntary euthanasia more pity killing than moral problem.

I think he's referring to involuntary euthanasia of infants, what many right-wingers say is or is not happening in those two countries.

 

[Lorena]

http://mediamatters.org/items/printable/200504200001

Ok, can we please medicate this guy before he hurts himself or someone else?

I don't know if anyone else on the thread brought this up, but O'Reilly never said, "The ACLU wants to kill your children."

He's what he actually did say:

"Talking Points" expects the American media to go after the new pope because he is conservative. And that will confirm his opinion that we're all a bunch of godless secularists over here.
Remember, it is the American Civil Liberties Union which is now behind all abortion on demand, euthanasia, and coming soon perhaps infanticide for impaired babies.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,154017,00.html


The title of this thread is very misleading.

 

[Quantos]

I don't know if anyone else on the thread brought this up, but O'Reilly never said, "The ACLU wants to kill your children."

He's what he actually did say:

"Talking Points" expects the American media to go after the new pope because he is conservative. And that will confirm his opinion that we're all a bunch of godless secularists over here.
Remember, it is the American Civil Liberties Union which is now behind all abortion on demand, euthanasia, and coming soon perhaps infanticide for impaired babies.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,154017,00.html


The title of this thread is very misleading.

Quoted so maby someone would read the above.

 

[Dale]

Sounds like something O'Reilly would say.

 

[eldermike]

Perhaps that's what he's talking about. But there are a lot of people, myself included, who need to be convinced that euthanizing a terminally ill individual (or allowing suicide) - at any age - is morally worse than letting them suffer then die.

The problem is, at some point this will become an economic decision and in fact it already is so. It's like all other decisions, at some point the cost comes into the discussion. So, in my opinion, it's not so easy to make a moral statement on this issue.

 

[Randall McNally]

The problem is, at some point this will become an economic decision and in fact it already is so.

Examples, please?

 

[Redneck]

What ever happend to Voltaire?

 

[eldermike]

Examples, please?

Every poor kid in the world. if you don't think medical care is economics, where have you been? Even those that have national health care, with money, seek medical care on a world wide basis.

 

[Randall McNally]

Every poor kid in the world. if you don't think medical care is economics, where have you been? Even those that have national health care, with money, seek medical care on a world wide basis.

That has little to do with life decisions wrt terminal illnesses.

 

[eldermike]

That has little to do with life decisions wrt terminal illnesses.

what? terminal means at some point in time. It's not a set point in time, that depends on medical care and that means money.

Life is a terminal condition

 

[Randall McNally]

what? terminal means at some point in time. It's not a set point in time, that depends on medical care and that means money.

Life is a terminal condition

Okay, that's prosaic enough, but it's hardly the case that the ACLU - or any other group I'm aware of - supports the active termination of children based on a hypothetical financial crisis.

 

[eldermike]

Okay, that's prosaic enough, but it's hardly the case that the ACLU - or any other group I'm aware of - supports the active termination of children based on a hypothetical financial crisis.

I am not sure they or anyone for that matter does either, however, it's not been discussed in economic terms. The moral basis for such decision is not as easy to find as threads like this makes it out to be. That was my point.

 

[Randall McNally]

I am not sure they or anyone for that matter does either, however, it's not been discussed in economic terms. The moral basis for such decision is not as easy to find as threads like this makes it out to be. That was my point.

Your point is that there is a real possibility that euthanasia-on-medical-basis could lead to euthanasia-on-financial-basis? Because that does not seem likely at all to me.