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Oopart dinosaurs? ideas please..

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He doesn't need to, because a billion years is as a day to him. And when the bible tells you, in both the Old Testament and the New, and tells you not to forget this one thing, that a thousand years in God's sight is as a day, then I would suggest you don't overlook this and assume every day God tells us about has to be a day from our perspective.

I would suggest instead of trying to fit everything in to a literalist interpretation, you let the bible teach you how you should approach it, that we have a God who loves to teach in parables and metaphors and whose view of time is very different from our limited understanding, who tells us twice, not to get our idea of time mixed up with his.
I didn't; however, evolutionist creationists all seem to have had to. GOD created in six literal days what man imagines would take billions ----- go figure. Let's face it, once someone moves beyond 1 thousand years, time begins to get fuzzy for many people...
 
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I didn't; however, evolutionist creationists all seem to have had to. GOD created in six literal days what man imagines would take billions ----- go figure. Let's face it, once someone moves beyond 1 thousand years, time begins to get fuzzy for many people...
Why would time get fuzzy after one thousand years?
 
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Why would time get fuzzy after one thousand years?
I have a hard time believing that I'm not 20 something anymore, let alone that 100,000 years ago you may feel my grandpop was a chimp. That is what I mean by fuzzy.
 
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I have a hard time believing that I'm not 20 something anymore, let alone that 100,000 years ago you may feel my grandpop was a chimp. That is what I mean by fuzzy.
I see, just because as humans we are unable to remember items of importance, does not mean we can discover history. We have history books for the recent past, and we have methods for deep history.

Just because one cannot believe or understand something, does not mean it is impossible.
 
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oooh big numbers make my head hurt, ergo evolution is a lie!!
A lie is when someone says, "2 billion years ago --- give or take a couple a hundred million ----- this is want seems to have happened." That would be like me saying, "In the 1950's ---- give or take a hundred years ---- rock'n roll was born."
 
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A lie is when someone says, "2 billion years ago --- give or take a couple a hundred million ----- this is want seems to have happened." That would be like me saying, "In the 1950's ---- give or take a hundred years ---- rock'n roll was born."
Who said that :
2 billion years ago --- give or take a couple a hundred million ----- this is want seems to have happened
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Generally, error bars for 2 billion years ar ein the range of 2-4 percent.
 
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A lot worse than that when one considers GOD's Word without error.
God's word is inerrant, it is our interpretations that are erroneous. I assert that a literal interpretation of genesis is erroneous because it is in direct opposition to the universe and earth we observe. Both have been made by God.
 
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I didn't; however, evolutionist creationists all seem to have had to. GOD created in six literal days what man imagines would take billions ----- go figure. Let's face it, once someone moves beyond 1 thousand years, time begins to get fuzzy for many people...
You see it doesn't say six literal days, you just assume that, because you are taking God's description of a day from his point of view, and assuming it has to be the same as the way you see days, when the bible tells you not to make that mistake.
 
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A lie is when someone says, "2 billion years ago --- give or take a couple a hundred million ----- this is want seems to have happened." That would be like me saying, "In the 1950's ---- give or take a hundred years ---- rock'n roll was born."
Apart from the overinflated range as Molal has pointed out, the two examples are quite similar, at least before you went over the top with your give or take a hundred years. The 1950s covers a decade about 50 years ago, a range of five years either side of 1955, a range of about ±9%. If we have a date give or take a couple of hundred million years 2 billion years ago, that is ±10%. And as Molal says it is actually less.

On the the hand your 1950's ---- give or take a hundred years is ±200%
 
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A lie is when someone says, "2 billion years ago --- give or take a couple a hundred million ----- this is want seems to have happened." That would be like me saying, "In the 1950's ---- give or take a hundred years ---- rock'n roll was born."

No it wouldn't, for the error margin reason already given.
 
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You see it doesn't say six literal days, you just assume that, because you are taking God's description of a day from his point of view, and assuming it has to be the same as the way you see days, when the bible tells you not to make that mistake.
No where in the Bible does it use the word literal. When the Bible speaks matter of factly, I accept it to be fact. When the Bible uses like or as, I understand such to be poetic or picturesque speech. The Proverbs and Psalms are exactly that specifically. The 6 day creation is exactly want it is. It goes directly into the history of the Hebrew nation and the linage of our LORD JESUS the CHRIST. The creation order is not supported by the present human teaching that many insist is scientific. However, I know that true science is only that which is observable, repeatable, and measurable. None of this is true of evolution. Creation assumptions have GOD's backing for the most part. Evolution has only human assumptions. GOD's revelation certainly does not confirm it.
 
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No where in the Bible does it use the word literal.
You are the one who claims...

GOD created in six literal days what man imagines would take billions ----- go figure. .

When the Bible speaks matter of factly, I accept it to be fact. When the Bible uses like or as, I understand such to be poetic or picturesque speech.
Clearly you can recognise similes. You mistake is thinking anything that isn't a simile is matter of fact. Saying "When the Bible speaks matter of factly, I accept it to be fact." is simply saying you believe you literal interpretation is correct. Jesus took a loaf of bread and said "This is my body". Is this matter of fact or figurative?

The Proverbs and Psalms are exactly that specifically. The 6 day creation is exactly want it is.
In your literal interpretation.

It goes directly into the history of the Hebrew nation and the linage of our LORD JESUS the CHRIST.
Do any of the genealogies in the bible mention a six day creation?

The creation order is not supported by the present human teaching that many insist is scientific. However, I know that true science is only that which is observable, repeatable, and measurable. None of this is true of evolution. Creation assumptions have GOD's backing for the most part.
Umm no. You cannot claim a divine mandate for what is simply your interpretation of the passage. The text of Genesis is scripture and has God's backing, the literal interpretation is simply a human attempt to understand what scripture says, one of a number of different interpretations of the text throughout history and an interpretation that has been shown to be wrong because it contradicts the evidence we see from God's universe.

Evolution has only human assumptions. GOD's revelation certainly does not confirm it.
Evolution is the result of studying the world God made. It has the backing of his creation.
 
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If you look at the first chapter of Genesis you will see that it talks of days when there is no established day ala verses 2-13. There was no sun and moon at this time to set our twenty four hour day, so exactly how long were these days?. Some thing for you to ponder on. For me I believe that it was God's time of evolving His creation, check that, refining His creation to which Adam became the crowing touch. And this is why we have dinosaurs and Neanderthal and Cromagnum man.

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