OOC: The Consi

[Paladin Dave]

Ok, perhaps he isnt finessed, but he isnt clumsy by any means. You can "zealously smash and still be fast and accurate. Ya, he was getting pretty ticked, but you use different moves against someone who is on the ground whom you wish to beat the living daylights out of than you would against an assassin. I guess I should be a bit more descriptive about his attacks. However, I give you the TMI(too much information) award for that thing about Asha falling on her behind after Mega called her a rabid elephant jk. But Nina only got teleported once, according to Shocka, because Kamahl was losing mana. BTW, we fixed the whole green knight escapade, and so she doesnt really have much to be irked with him about, unless I have forgotten something, in which case I ask that you please correct me. I am almost 6', and I weigh about as much as Manfred does, a bit less, and I have a bit of a gut:o , but I figure you could easily get Manfred's proportions by giving me an inch or two and replacing some of the fat with muscle, you know what I mean? Oh well, that isnt really improtant I guess... Ya, anyways, I'm glad we cleared that up, and no hard feelings by my part

 

[Megachihuahua]

I think a little fat paladin is realistic. They don't all have to look like roman gods...

(for real, how the heck did they get there so fast?)

How long have you been fighting and wandering through tunnels? Anyway, the goodies shouldn't win a single battle until the very end. And I'm not ready to end it for several hundred pages.

he shouldnt be much more difficult for Leighla to shoot around as someone like Asha or Maldirk

Maldirk is a skinny little half-elf

 

[Woman of Faith]

And Asha is athletically built, nary a pound of fat on her (except for places PD doesn't want me to mention, don't want to give TMI).

Now, I might suggest that too much information is better than not enough, in the case of character description. I say, the more detail the better. That way misunderstandings can be avoided. If all I have is ht and wt to go by please forgive me for assuming a knight of the realm is broad-shouldered and muscular. Also please forgive me for thinking he would move slowly with over 80 lbs. of plate armor on. Again, I am making an assumption because the type of armor has not been given. (I could be wrong here, but I'm not taking the time to go check the bio.)

Anyway, if you don't want me assuming Manfred is a good-looking, well-built, fine specimen of a man, YOU GOT IT.

 

[Paladin Dave]

Ok WOF, I was kidding with the TMI thing, but ya, I get what your saying. Manfred is just supposed to be moderately handsom, not some pretty boy. And ya, he would move a bit slower, and he has a bit of fat, cause he is pretty much me, only older, leaner and with a beard and powers and armor and stuff . His armor is just chain mail and a breast plate, with a couple small plates on his arms and legs.

 

[Woman of Faith]

Cool! I'm very visual, I make a picture in my mind of the action described by everyone. I think of it as painting a picture with words so the more brush strokes ( or words) there are, the clearer the picture!

 

[Megachihuahua]

As for de' whole 'how did the Green Knights get here so fast' question, it is very simple:

1. IIRC, Sathria still has the tracking spell on her.
2.Leighla's no-footprints spell should have worn off by now.
3.The Green Knights have Hwen, who is now a super-powered evil Liche. (I've decided that he doesn't work for the Pra Yer now, cuz' that doesn't make sense and the goodies have too many friends already)
4. De' bad dOOds are losing, and we need help.

So, WoF, you can stop ignoring them now.

As for de' whole 80 pounds of armor question:
Chain mail would slow down Manfred more than plate mail, since all the weight is on the shoulders rather than spread out through his entire body. My 1 cents.

BTW, has anyone here played Baldur's Gate?

 

[Woman of Faith]

As for de' whole 'how did the Green Knights get here so fast' question, it is very simple:

1. IIRC, Sathria still has the tracking spell on her.
2.Leighla's no-footprints spell should have worn off by now.
3.The Green Knights have Hwen, who is now a super-powered evil Liche. (I've decided that he doesn't work for the Pra Yer now, cuz' that doesn't make sense and the goodies have too many friends already)
4. De' bad dOOds are losing, and we need help.

So, WoF, you can stop ignoring them now.

As for de' whole 80 pounds of armor question:
Chain mail would slow down Manfred more than plate mail, since all the weight is on the shoulders rather than spread out through his entire body. My 1 cents.

BTW, has anyone here played Baldur's Gate?

If the Green Knights are as powerful as you say then they are too powerful, this party has had NO REST for almost a full day, if anyone is keeping track of game time. There are MANY factors to consider when rp'ing and time is extremely important.
Let's just take your points one by one.

1. Yes, they'd know her location, but to get there in the same amount of time that the party did?

2. Leighla's no footprints spell is moot because they ended up going THROUGH A MOUNTAIN. Forgive me if I'm wrong, but this point appears to have been ignored.

3. To change important things like this in the middle of a story completely ruins the flow of a storyline. And to change things to overwhelmingly give odds to the bad guys like that (they have Sir Wonderfully Evil, Maldirk, the self-proclaimed, super-powerful mage, the also self-proclaimed one of the greatest assassins ever AND a super elite group of Knights who are not only superbly adept in combat, but are themselves powerful mages). All along I keep hearing about how the goodies have things skewed to their advantage and I haven't said anything, but to make a change like this without any truly good reason.... I'm speaking up now. As far as I can tell all anyone on the "good" side has done is play their character as it was introduced in the character section. There has never been any secret to Asha's or Leighla's abilities and I have worked very hard not to overplay them or go beyond the scope of their description. In fact, I think I have DOWNPLAYED their abilities.
Now, before anyone gets his/her nose out of joint, let me tell you why I am saying this.

We have a STORY here, we need to preserve the STORY, not who's stronger or faster or smarter or better. If the "baddies" overwhelm the "goodies" before the story even gets off the ground then we all lose. I don't know about anyone else, but I prefer to have a good long story with LOTS of role playing and NOT SO MUCH fighting. The STORY is why I joined this thread and that's what I want to get back to, the STORY.

4. See #3.


About the armor, have you ever actually worn any? I have and I have been around folks who have, and not on some silly field trip or anything, so I can assure you from experience that plate is FAR MORE restraining and limiting than chain mail. If you want to know more about this check out the Society for Creative Anachronism.

Lastly, I HAVE played Baldur's Gate, but only the Super NES system many moons ago. It was great! Good STORY!!!

 

[crazy4Christ007]

haha...sorry about the bows! i ment arrows....haha thanks for pointing that out...

 

[Megachihuahua]

1. They have the Hwen zombie, who can blink.

2. Yeah, so I guess that point is irrelevant...

3.
First battle, Maldirk vs. Asha, Sathria, Darrion's Elves, and Marie
Results: Maldirk retreats and only puts a tracking spell on Sathria.
Second battle, Sniven and Hwen vs. Goodies
Results: Sniven's soldiers are slaughtered, Maldirk kills Hwen for some reason. (I apologize because I was just bored when I did that)
Third battle, Sniven and Maldirk vs. Leighla, Asha and Sathria
Results: Maldirk and Sniven nearly kill Lieghla, but her bow magically gets a new string and they have to surrender. They are tied up for half the game
Fourth battle, Maldirk vs. Sathria and Asha
Results: Maldirk almost kills Sathria, but she uses her psionics on him.
Fifth battle, Maldirk vs. Bat Turtle, Asha and the Pixie
Results: Asha knocks out Maldirk and ties him up again.
Sixth battle, Nina, Kamahl, and Maldirk vs. the Goodies
Results: Baddies are grabbed by trees, and a surge of power from Kamahl gives them just enough power to escape.
Seventh battle, Manfred vs. Green Knights (not sure if we can count this)
Results: Manfred dismounts three Green Knights, and they retreat.
Seventh battle: Baddies vs. Goodies
Results: If the Green Knights are here, the baddies win their first battle outright. If not, the baddies are once again resigned to harrasment only with little involvement in the plot.

So, as I see it, the baddies have either lost or retreated from every battle. This is not right. I don't think half the goodies have even gotten a scratch yet, while Maldirk has been beaten to a pulp, and Nina and Kamahl have been hit with arrows. To have goodies make at least one of five hundred arrows ALWAYS have to hit does not help much. Whether it would be better for the baddies to use this sort of Cheeze, or for the goodies to stop, I don't know. But that seems to be large part of the problem.

I see what you are saying about changing things around during the game, I'm sorry, I'm just trying to make up for some of my earlier stupidity. I've found it necessary to add powers to allow the people a chance to even escape a battle, not even to win one, simply because we are outnumbered and outmatched at every turn. I'm sorry that I didn't start my character as super-powered, as a god character wasn't desirable. But simply to avoid being kicked out of the main plot it was neccessary to do this.

I'm also sorry for adding so many baddy characters and casting them off, but up until a few weeks ago I was the only one playing an evil character. None of them really turned out with as much personality as Maldirk either.

While it is probably not the case, this is how I view the current situation. The baddies have been smashed through the entire game. Now, when reinforcements arrive for the baddies in the form of a couple beserk knights, the goodies stubbornly resist the possibilty of losing a battle.

It IS entirely possible for the Green Knights to have arrived, and us baddies want to win JUST ONE SINGLE BATTLE DURING THE COURSE OF THE GAME! PLEASE! IT'S ALL WE WANT! WITH ONE OVERWHELMING VICTORY WE WILL HAVE NOTHING TO COMPLAIN ABOUT!

(Btw, the Green Knights are not mages, they simply have the same limited control over nature that Maldirk does. The only way they are better than him in this respect is that they can cast a few more spells a day)

(BTW 2, I don't mean mobility in respect to armor, just that chain is heavier due to the way it is carried on the shoulders)

(BTW 3, Baldur's Gate 1 or 2?)

 

[Paladin Dave]

Well, As far as the chain mail, it would be heavy, but not as restrictive of his movemnet as being completely covered in plates, and having his movement limited to how the armor is built. Also, please dont count the Manfred/GK battle. For the last frikin time, I went and made it into a calculation, IE, it was being played out in MAnfred's head and he decided not to try it and started shouting "hey wait for me!" as he tried to catch up with the group.

So, one of the knights is a lich? Perfect.... Manfred rocks against the undead.

 

[Star_Splitter87]

I hate to be the one to point stuff out, however damage WAS indeed done on both sides.

Sathria was severely wounded in the cave by Sir Maldirk.
Sathria was also poisoned, and was knocked out for the entire second battle.
Asha was blasted by ... something ... during the second battle.

I'm am supremely confident that there were other wounds inflected upon the goodies.

And a victory IS indeed due to you guys. Let us have a bit of fun and let the baddies win this one.

As it would be rather impobable that we would win against so many foes, dispite skills, I'm letting this slide. It isn't that I don't think Mega is right, simply because I know most of you guys in here are like "THE LIGHT ALWAYS WINS!!!".

The light does not always win. During the war, which is far from over, loses are made on each side. Now, as each side is not going to lose anyone by death, I think this could end up to be an endless parade of "Curse you!" "Curse you back" sort of thing. I realize this is sort of redundant, but that is how RPG is structured. No one person is willing to kill their person completely for it would make their involvement in the game into nothing.

Thank God RPG is not based completely in reality.

Mega is right. The Baddies deserve a win.

 

[Paladin Dave]

Then he better get on before we kill all the knights jk. I agree, the villains always deserve a win, but that doesnt mean we should just let them win. But ya, I guess I will keep Manfred from doing anything spectacular(please no references to the whole Manfred/knights thing, k?)

 

[Megachihuahua]

OK, thank you...

One of the Green Knights isn't a lich, but... hmm, let me explain.
I was bored one day and added a character mage named Hwen. I got bored again and killed him. I got bored once again and the Green Knights returned his soul to his body, which made him a lich. You can kill Hwen again if you want, I don't like him. You can kill Sniven, and maybe one or two green knights as well.

before I forget, what happened to Bat Turtle?

 

[Swordslinger-Christan]

I agree that Baddies should win, thats why I teleported every good guy out of their, whith my extremly charged sword ensted of slicing Kahmal to bits and killing him 5 times over. but Mathais did not do it and be perfectly fine, he is cripled for now.

 

[Woman of Faith]

It appears some here believe there are those who are not playing fairly. I do not know if any of that is aimed at me, but from reading the posts I have reason to believe it does. I have tried to explain that I work hard to play w/in the parameters of my character, and I have repeatedly tried to be a voice of calm in an ever-increasingly tense thread. Therefore my current characters will no longer be in the Consi.

When the party gets to Ember I'll have another character to play and this one has no outstanding abilities, save one. You can read the bio if you want to know more.

 

[Swordslinger-Christan]

Oh so thats why you let your Char's die. And S_S87 is it alrite that I have Mathais teleport all the goodies out of there? That would mean a instant win for the Badies.
P.S. who's Bat Turtle?

 

[Star_Splitter87]

OK. It has come to my attention of several inconsistancies in the characters of both in the thread and ... out.

1.) There will be no personal attacks. In dialog, one character MAY verbally attack another (within reason) IF and only IF they are within their character to do so. Otherwise, these comments within the thread are unimportant and I want them to stop. They are not only rude, but not Christian as well.

2.) I wish Asha and Leighla to return, so I am using my special, once in a LONG while powers as creator of this thread to do what I can to revive them, if that is WoF's wish.

3.) Sorry about Bat Turtle. I have forgotten to post about her. (This is why I stress not to have more than one character. It can get confusing, however I know of several people, most involved in this thread, that can handle it just fine.) I will not kill Bat off as she is important to the future of this thread. However, I shall do my best to become more consistant with my postings.


These issues are now closed. No more disucsion will be done upon them. I do not wish anarchy in this thread and these issues cause arguements and fighting. Just stop.

I must also stress that I wish no one to leave over this, and I mean NO ONE. However, if you feel that you must, then you must. I just want you guys to know that sometimes you make mistakes and go too far with a joke. Joking around is fine, but a line must be drawn when it has become practically chicque.

Consider it drawn.

 

[Megachihuahua]

It appears some here believe there are those who are not playing fairly. I do not know if any of that is aimed at me, but from reading the posts I have reason to believe it does. I have tried to explain that I work hard to play w/in the parameters of my character, and I have repeatedly tried to be a voice of calm in an ever-increasingly tense thread. Therefore my current characters will no longer be in the Consi.

When the party gets to Ember I'll have another character to play and this one has no outstanding abilities, save one. You can read the bio if you want to know more.

Not playing fairly? Please elaborate. I'm not sure what you mean, exactly. If it was me, I'm sorry.

(BTW, I finally got that Aon thing to work. It would have been a lot easier if they had self-extracting archives. It kept me entertained for half an hour before I died and went to bed. I'll try again. )

 

[Woman of Faith]

I was responding to your lengthy post, Mega, and I over-reacted somewhat. I want anyone who thinks I'm cheezing to let me know, pm, ooc, whatever. I want this to be fun.

I didn't know projectaon didn't have self-extracting files, but I'm no techie by any means. I usually just view the books right there on the web without downloading anything, saves time and disk space.

 

[Woman of Faith]

By the way, the new character's name is Slice.