OOC: Memories

[LightofHeaven]

I'll wait til Woffy posts.

 

[Sylvengard]

It's been over a week since Sylvie posted, and five days since my last entry. If there's no reply by Tuesday, I'm going to move his character semi-gently to one side so I can post. Consent of the Mastah?

I'm pm'g him today, give him till Wednesday then go ahead and post. The #1 post in here says you guys are only expected to post once or twice a month so I don't want to leave Syl behind. Still, I can understand you want interaction so I'm going to ask him to go ahead and post. He probably has real life stuff going on since he's in high school and it's May.

My gravest apologies. School and the band have complicated things, and my usual computer/internet problems. I'll try to post ASAP. However...it seems there is a little to cover at the moment:

Also, a small note about the vampiric virus as I intended it: it is something that will either a) corrupt the infected so as to make them evil, or b) if the corruption is resisted, it will eventually cause delusions and ultimately death. A person may be able to resist the virus for decades, but it will either make them evil or kill them. Whether WoF wants to hold to that is up to her, but I intended the viral vampire to be like the classical vampire, and all classical vampires are demonic. Just something to consider,

[QUOTEWoF]Syl? You may want to rethink the whole vampire thing, I dunno. I wonder if there's anything close. Half-vampire? One quarter? We should discuss this because I do want to stick to what the Christia Committee agreed upon while at the same time giving players freedom in character creation. Time to put the thinking caps on. There has to be a way for you to have something equally creepy/captivating. [/QUOTE]

Hmm...

The virus can take decades before the corruption completes itself, but during that time, he would still act like a vampire, needing blood and all that. So, Daniel might only be a few years into it, or, well, more or less a few years. So maybe he's just not as infected yet, or he has a strong resistance. Otherwise, he would have to be a racial vampire.

Okay so I never exactly specified whether he was human infected or vampire by race. Either way, what are the differences? I just thought of a guy with the disadvantages . . . not traveling in the sun, the need for blood, etc. It makes for an interesting conflict.

Based on this excerpt from the linked section above, I would say Daniel might possibly be a hybrid of human/elven/bloodline vampire? I put that in form of a question because it's just a suggestion, Syl.

Shadow? The second paragraph quote above seems in contradict your previous post that the vampire would be evil. Let's clear all this up so Syl can get to posting.

Quite possibly. I'm replying as I read, so I'm not sure what Shad's reply to that is quite yet, but alright. Soon enough. One question though, out of curiousity, why Elven?

And as a note, I imagined that though Daniel is a vampire, he can choose not to kill innocents (including the party he encounted IC-side). So would that be more of an infected thing? Course, you did say that "no race is inherently evil".

Hey, you guys have any IMs? I have Yahoo and Gtalk. If interested my handles/logins/whatever are Woman0fFaith and WoFHb11.1 respectively.

Mine is mmysl@yahoo.com for Yahoo IM.

Racial vampires are not evil, but viral vampires are. Like I said, I intended the viral vampires to be classical vampires, which were always evil or\and demonic in nature. The undead vampire, if you will.

Fair enough. But still, wouldnt it be simply a disadvantage? Unless it actually changes the mind... For instance, a blind person could attempt to stand straight, and after practice he could. However, he still might stumble and fall if he is not careful.

Okay, bad example. I'm tired, so give me a break.

However, to "retcon" Sly's character, we can make the virus resistible to some extent. If the virus is accepted, then they become the undead, evil vampire. If the virus is rejected, then it will slowly destroy the host, making them eventually delusional, and ultimately dead.

I think that Sly can stay the way he is; he's already played into the delusional part a little with his thoughts to slaughter Summer and co.. That's the sort of thing the virus would do.

I learned the phrase "retcon."

Make sense?

This way, choice and free will are accounted for, and since the option of choice is still open, I can see several ways for the vampire to remain good.. Drink animal blood, for instance. Or beg for donations.

What do you mean by "if the virus is accepted"? Could he accept who he is and not turn completely evil?

Look, the point is this: Vampires, historically, have always been evil. In fact, in the original accounts, they are demonic; this is the reason that vampires hate\fear crosses.

Recently, however, a fad of "good vampires" has been prevalent, and I wanted a way to accommodate or explain that possibility. At the same time, I wanted to stay true to the classic vampire model without using strict demonism; i.e. a bite on the neck makes you a demon. So I devised the virus idea. Classical vampires would be attributed to the virus, while good vampires could be blood line.

But, both MD and Sly have made good points. I think that the virus should be something that can be resisted, but will ultimately either warp or kill the host. So, basically, Daniel has a death sentence on him.

Agreed. Now as a small note: ("...this is the reason that vampires hate\fear crosses." Just curious. Have you seen Fright Night? )

And as another note, I also agree on the death sentence concept. Even better for conflict, depending on how long he's got.

About the vampirism, I think Shad has done a good job of giving people options here. The viral vamp is evil, while the genetic vamp is a free agent. What is the disconnect? Besides, we haven't even heard from Syl on this yet. I want his input, it IS his character. I've pm'd him.

Okay Okay I'm here. I still have no clue where we are goin for this, so I'll let Shad decide Daniel's fate, per say. He's the Christia vampire guy here.

ahem... Am I clear to move Syl's char semi-gently aside, since it's Wednesday now/

*glares at MD.* No faith in my return?

Good God. I have no time to check the IC. Give me a wee bit more time. I'll try for tonight. I'm goin out at the moment. Let me know what everyone thinks of this hideously long post and I'll be back soon, promise!

 

[LightofHeaven]

Let's see how good you are at promise-keeping, bruddah.

 

[Sylvengard]

Yeah yeah. Great now I need to do a major readup on the goings on. I don't even know why I'm up this late, all things considered. I got home very late and I'm not going to be able to post. I have a gig tomorrow at two so wish me luck. I should be able to post tomorrow morning, so don't get all panicky. Nite everyone, an I'll be back in a few hours.

 

[LightofHeaven]

Luck-wishing should be saved for a bad performer according to Seifer Almasy. I trust you will do good, Sylvie.

 

[Woman of Faith]

Remember rule #1, real life is more important. Take care of all your RL stuff and don't mind us. I am slowing the thread back down to ensure no one gets overwhelmed with having to read too much. Sorry I slipped up on that Sylvie. I am sure you will do wonderfully this afternoon, provided you got enough sleep. Posting at 4 in the morning? And Light? You're up at 5? Oy.

Based on that massively long post, Sylvie, and thanks for addressing all of that, it seems you have a handle on what you want to do with Daniel. We just need to get the whole issue finalized asap. Yes, however, we should wait for one more word from Shadow. Then I want your take on it, Syl, and we can come to a final resolution.

 

[Shadowseldil]

Okay, here's my ruling, since, apparently, I became an authority on this. I'm flexible. Daniel can stay as is, with the minor addition of the occasional episode of overly violent (particularly vampiric) thoughts.
By resisting the virus, I meant resisting the twisting effects. He can accept the fact the he is cursed and doomed to die, but he's not given over to, uh... the dark side, if I can put it that way.

I think I covered everything. Oh wait: No. I haven't seen Fright Night. Why?

 

[LightofHeaven]

Actually, Woffy, I wasn't able to sleep until 7am.

 

[K9Guardian]

Apparently, bedtime has a life of its own. It wanders around.

 

[Sylvengard]

Alright. Good. And yes WoF, late again. I swear I'll post in the next four minutes...well okay five. And thanks Shadow, that resolved everything, I'd say.

As for Fright Night, I was referring to when you said that vampires feared crucifixes. There was a scene in Fright Night where the vampire approached a hero holding a crucifix -- the vampire bent it in half and said "you gotta have faith." I don't remember what relevence that had to what we were talking about, and I'm running short on time so I'll not go recheck at the moment. I pray it actually had meaning and I'm not wrong haha.

 

[GodFlute2]

RPG: I thought it was morning.

 

[Woman of Faith]

It is morning. I don't think Syl caught that MD took his characters away and the morning had come. Wanna add to your post, Sylvie?

 

[LightofHeaven]

How dare y'all take off without A Light. ::feigns anger:: I haven't read the thread yet, so id you couldn't tell, thisz is false wrath.

Woot for posts!

 

[Sylvengard]

Alright, there is my post WoF, and thanks for the info. I hope that post suffices, and if not, let me know. It doesn't really matter timewise since he's no longer with any of the other characters, so no more waiting.

 

[LightofHeaven]

:bored:

 

[Woman of Faith]

Syl,

A little OOC is alright so long as you post too, and you did.

 

[Sylvengard]

Alright Good to know.

 

[LightofHeaven]

We should let Shad have a go.

 

[K9Guardian]

yes, because my innocent, sweet Kestrel is suffering a rather frigid reception atm.

 

[GodFlute2]

Lol