Obviously you have never dealt with the VA.Why aren’t we hearing about all these tragic scenarios of rationing, long waitlists, and elderly dying without adequate care from all of our population enrolled in Medicare?
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Obviously you have never dealt with the VA.Why aren’t we hearing about all these tragic scenarios of rationing, long waitlists, and elderly dying without adequate care from all of our population enrolled in Medicare?
So you want to be completely and utterly dependent on the federal government to provide for your healthcare? And what if another Donald Trump gets elected? Do you want someone like him in control of your health?How is that inconsistent?
In the ACA they tried to keep private health insurance plans in place in an effort to create a plan that could garner some right wing support - not realizing what a fool’s errand that was.
As a consequence - they needed to realize higher prices were going to stay and dole out subsidies. And given how the prices went - I think they set the subsidy levels too low.
That error doesn’t make me go “well god darn it - ain’t going to have anything to do with the government again”. Especially when I see the dysfunction of the private insurance system relative to the best run plans we have - Medicare and Medicaid.
Medicare is not the VA. And everyone who uses the VA in my area is quite happy with the service they get.Obviously you have never dealt with the VA.
BTW...the last time the was a big "socialized medicine" debate, progressives kept turning to Venezuela as the shining example of a socialist utopia to be emulated. Ops!The last time the “socialized medicine” debate came up and the whole “Canadians are coming here for procedures!” Stuff was lobbed our there - I looked into what reports I could find that actually examined those claims.
For the most part - yes - that does happen. But MOSTLY it’s for non major relatively inexpensive elective procedures and/or tests.
The number of MAJOR types of procedures were extremely few - as in - could count a years worth on your hands type of infrequent. And there’s an obvious reason why. How many people can afford to pay American full freight cost of procedures without insurance coverage? And that’s what they’d be doing.
For example my father in law’s open heart surgery. $450,000 bill. Without insurance sure you could probably negotiate a good percent off - but how many people are laying around with an extra $250,000 to spend?
So there are grains of truth to it - but it’s exaggerated for political purposes.
Again, it is obvious that you have never had to deal with the VA. You show me someone who says they are "quite happy" with the VA and I will show you someone who is full of bull. You are correct that Medicare is not the VA. But the VA is government controlled health care and it is terrible. Just do a quick google search about the conditions in VA hospitals. Of course the VA has gotten much better since Trump was elected. Now it seems that the satisfaction rates are comparable with private hospitals....since Trump allowed vets to get vouchers that can be used at other hospitals and forced the VA to compete with the private sector.Medicare is not the VA. And everyone who uses the VA in my area is quite happy with the service they get.
Well since no one is suggesting VA for all you can leave the VA out of the discussion. The VA was also just fine in my area before Trump. Some VA hospitals have been managed horribly but hardly the majority.Again, it is obvious that you have never had to deal with the VA. You are correct that Medicare is not the VA. But the VA is government controlled health care and it is terrible. Just do a quick google search about the conditions in VA hospitals. Of course the VA has gotten much better since Trump was elected.
Actually, it is not. So don't kid yourself.Seems to work well here for the last 60+ years
I think the first step is addressing the reasons why healthcare is so expensive in the first place. Otherwise, insurance is only going to increase as a result of the increased cost of health services. You see, rising health insurance premiums are just a symptom of the bigger problem, the rising cost of healthcare services and prescriptions. Tackle the problem of making healthcare more affordable and insurance rates will go down. Having medicare for all will only drive up the cost of services and result in the rationing of health care.
Obviously you have never dealt with the VA.
And people want to turn our entire healthcare system into a potential "political football" too? No thank you.Medicare works well. Tricare works well. Active duty military care works well.
The VA has problems because it's a vulnerable political football. Congress insists on treating the VA as though its case load isn't varied by state. A veteran in Maine can stroll into a clinic at any time. A veteran in Florida will wait for months. That's because there are a heck of a lot more veterans in Florida than in Maine, but Congress funds them equally.
And a Republican controlled House and Senate and White House couldn’t it forth anything but that? What was that Republican plan and where did it go?Like repealing the failed Affordable Care Act that drove insurance premiums up by an average of 147% in the last 10 years and replace it with something that actually works. Obamacare has been directly responsible for everyone's insurance premiums increasing by as much as 99% since 2013. Obamacare is such a failure that even if the Republicans just repealed it altogether it would be better than what is happening now.
U.S. House Passes Republican Health Bill, a Step toward Obamacare Repeal
4 Myths about the Republican Health Reform Bill (AHCA), or American Health Care Act - eHealth Insurance Resource Center
Remember, the President found it “complicated”.And people want to turn our entire healthcare system into a potential "political football" too? No thank you.
So you want to be completely and utterly dependent on the federal government to provide for your healthcare? And what if another Donald Trump gets elected? Do you want someone like him in control of your health?
Yes I can understand why a Neo-Con propaganda piece would insinuate such a catastrophe. They have been crying about losing privatization in medicine here for 60 years. We don't feel sorry for the free enterprise parasites here.Actually, it is not. So don't kid yourself.
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And people want to turn our entire healthcare system into a potential "political football" too? No thank you.
Again, it is obvious that you have never had to deal with the VA. You show me someone who says they are "quite happy" with the VA and I will show you someone who is full of bull. You are correct that Medicare is not the VA. But the VA is government controlled health care and it is terrible. Just do a quick google search about the conditions in VA hospitals. Of course the VA has gotten much better since Trump was elected. Now it seems that the satisfaction rates are comparable with private hospitals....since Trump allowed vets to get vouchers that can be used at other hospitals and forced the VA to compete with the private sector.
Trump is letting people get cheap plans that would be like bandaids for a hemmorhage. That won't solve the problem when so much us uncovered.Haven't the Republicans been talking about that for the last couple of years? Wasn't that Trump's campaign promise?
What is your suggestion? For that matter, what has been their suggestion for fixing it? What's the grand plan that would get everyone covered cheaper than Obamacare?
Have you every had private health insurance before? Because last I checked, you decide what healthcare you want covered and by which company. You get what you pay for. In a world of socialized medicine, you have unelected bureaucrats acting as "death panels" deciding what things the government will pay for and who gets priority.As opposed to Blue Cross/Aetna being in charge of my healthcare, along with Donald Trump?
I'll take my chances with Medicare.
I've had to manage my own health care which has always been private and my parents' health care which was Medicare for the last decade+ of their lives.Have you every had private health insurance before? Because last I checked, you decide what healthcare you want covered and by which company. You get what you pay for. In a world of socialized medicine, you have unelected bureaucrats acting as "death panels" deciding what things the government will pay for and who gets priority.