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Why is it so easy, and so tempting, to be rude online? Generally I think I try to be pretty polite but sometimes I post responses to threads that make me cringe when I read them later, things that make me sound like a petulant child. I don't say things like that in 'real life'. Something about the difference between talking to someone in person and posting on the internet makes it too easy to be snarky or over the top in responses, that's how it seems to me anyway.
 

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Why is it so easy, and so tempting, to be rude online? Generally I think I try to be pretty polite but sometimes I post responses to threads that make me cringe when I read them later, things that make me sound like a petulant child. I don't say things like that in 'real life'. Something about the difference between talking to someone in person and posting on the internet makes it too easy to be snarky or over the top in responses, that's how it seems to me anyway.

I participated in an Online church discussion board before, and did not encounter rudeness from people I knew in person. But I had one random person (whom no one knew) leave a rude comment to my post. The access code is published on the bulletin and Website, so it could have been a visitor or an Internet troll.

So perhaps it is not knowing the person or not recognizing that she is a real person behind the computer/ phone screen that causes some people to be rude (?)...not that this is an excuse.
 
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I've been interested in this too! I found a couple of great resources on the subject :) !

Why Are People Mean? Don't Take It Personally by Monica A. Frank, Ph.D.

I do my best not to offend others, and my story has been of one being on the receiving in of meanness, so I take great care not to be mean to others from my heart and hope all goes well after I hit "submit", but I do believe I can come across as mean anyway sometimes when posting, especially on sensitive issues, because I can't quite be perfect and tactful enough.

Some seem to have no problems being tactful at all times, it is a skill I do believe, and I do suffer from mental illness and social issues that make it difficult for me to read between the lines and be considerate at all times. Though, in this case, all I can do is brace for confrontation or rebuke and accept it, because at least then anything that may come of what I've said has been fixed/remedied in the spirit of truth!
 
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Reading a post aloud helps as does proofreading before you post. Tone can be intentional or a facet of ones writing voice. It isn’t always meant to offend.

For some, the ability to be uncouth without reprisal is appealing. But we’re witnessing the ramifications of that belief and its consequences for careers and educational opportunities.

The bible reminds us...

The good person out of the good treasure of his heart produces good, and the evil person out of his evil treasure produces evil, for out of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaks.
 
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Why is it so easy, and so tempting, to be rude online? Generally I think I try to be pretty polite but sometimes I post responses to threads that make me cringe when I read them later, things that make me sound like a petulant child. I don't say things like that in 'real life'. Something about the difference between talking to someone in person and posting on the internet makes it too easy to be snarky or over the top in responses, that's how it seems to me anyway.

Only addressing the Bible verses only, and talking in the third person and not directly talking to them helps. I strive to do this as much as possible. Too many times people try to get their hooks into you, so as to get a bad response out of you. The best course of action is to love them, pray for them, and to just speak the Bible to them in love.
 
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I do my best not to offend others, and my story has been of one being on the receiving in of meanness, so I take great care not to be mean to others from my heart and hope all goes well after I hit "submit", but I do believe I can come across as mean anyway sometimes when posting, especially on sensitive issues, because I can't quite be perfect and tactful enough.

Reading a post aloud helps as does proofreading before you post. Tone can be intentional or a facet of ones writing voice.

So true...we have far more time to think over what we say in writing, compared to speaking situations.
 
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So true...we have far more time to think over what we say in writing, compared to speaking situations.

We do and we should taste our words before speaking. But there’s the notion we’re engaging with screens instead of people which makes rudeness okay for some.

I learned years ago to use formality as a buffer. My writing is more relaxed here than usual for a forum. But it keeps me in check and averts silly tête-à-têtes which diminish my witness and ladyship.

I’ll address disrespect but I won’t slug it out. I let the mods handle it.
 
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Why is it so easy, and so tempting, to be rude online? Generally I think I try to be pretty polite but sometimes I post responses to threads that make me cringe when I read them later, things that make me sound like a petulant child. I don't say things like that in 'real life'. Something about the difference between talking to someone in person and posting on the internet makes it too easy to be snarky or over the top in responses, that's how it seems to me anyway.

postings and such on the internet is not face to face contact ... people know basically sticks and stones may break my bones ... but words will never harm me (physical harm). so the "threat" of physical harm is removed, so no immediate threat really ... therefore people are emboldened to be quite "curt" (rudely brief)
 
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I've wondered if it's just me that even though I am anonymous on the internet (saying that for sake of argument, not in fact because of tracking technology), behind a screen name and a picture, what others say to me affects me like I were to be face to face with them, except with hundreds if not thousands of people witnessing it for the internet, stored permanently in public space.

Given this (a "know thyself" thing perhaps) I do my best to protect myself and not be irresponsible with what I say lol.
 
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We can't see the person before us, so we don't feel the imminent shared responsibility of the interaction. We only have words and we are only certain of our own emotions. In a way there's too much room for our imagination as well as less immediate responsibility, and we tend to project a lot when we don't have the experience of another person actually being there. The other person is replaced by our projection of them or by some otherwise weak perception of their motivations, and when we are putting ourselves against some opposing motivation, we get defensive and aggressive with all the comfort of holding on to our grudge safely behind our internet, and with none of the restraint by compassion and maturity.

And if we get to the point where we are offended - which is often just our perception and nothing else - we tend to hold on to that. We hold on to it like it's some treasure, and we listen to its demands and everything turns into some weird game of power, control and humiliation. All of this easily shows us where we are lacking in love, patience, wisdom and all other good things. And I'm not saying this as if I'm better than you, because I have to slap myself out of that mindset often. I find myself often feeling very passive-aggressive and snarky. But luckily I don't have to follow the demands of those feelings, I can just wake myself up, let it be and carry on with my day.

One of the funniest things about the kind of game where we try to one-up each other with snark and passive aggression, is the realization we get when we "lose" that stupid game. When I lose that game (which I shouldn't have participated in the first place), I'm thinking it would have been better if he just said "F you". There's some truth to that, I think. Just a plain old insult is more honest and less annoying than trying to find the "smart" way of putting someone down while I'm trying to raise myself into whatever useless imaginary and holier-than-thou pedestal. So it's good that I've lost those games, serves me right!
 
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One of the funniest things about the kind of game where we try to one-up each other with snark and passive aggression, is the realization we get when we "lose" that stupid game. ... Just a plain old insult is more honest and less annoying than trying to find the "smart" way of putting someone down while I'm trying to raise myself into whatever useless imaginary and holier-than-thou pedestal. So it's good that I've lost those games, serves me right!

I've had the greatest struggles with this having autism and being teased to hell and back. They were unjustified to be mean to me I thought - how dare they! I didn't mean anything by what I said! why did they mean something by what they said then? - but I could never communicate that for some reason.
 
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Why is it so easy, and so tempting, to be rude online? Generally I think I try to be pretty polite but sometimes I post responses to threads that make me cringe when I read them later, things that make me sound like a petulant child. I don't say things like that in 'real life'. Something about the difference between talking to someone in person and posting on the internet makes it too easy to be snarky or over the top in responses, that's how it seems to me anyway.

Internet forums are basically free-form debates. Such battles of ideas are not for sensitive people. Curtness and jibes are part of the art and jousting of debate, and always have been.

Most of the internet forums I've been on were ROUGH (even the Christian ones), but I am learning from several on these forums how to dialogue more kindly. Mostly just hit a "like" etc. button or keep to short posts.
 
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I've had the greatest struggles with this having autism and being teased to hell and back. They were unjustified to be mean to me I thought - how dare they! I didn't mean anything by what I said! why did they mean something by what they said then? - but I could never communicate that for some reason.

Me too. The worst experience by far was on a football message board. Most people hated me and all I can do is be rude back. With my Asperger's syndrome, I am incapable of resisting the urge to tell the bullies a ton of crap in response to theirs. The only possible explanation is they decided to hate me and not accept me for who I am: a regular forum member who just happens to be autistic.
 
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I also think it's important to read other people's post carefully before you respond, so that you don't end up taking what they said out of context. When in doubt, ask for a clarification on what they meant.
 
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I also think it's important to read other people's post carefully before you respond, so that you don't end up taking what they said out of context. When in doubt, ask for a clarification on what they meant.

I did that many times. Everyone hated me enough to be unwilling to answer in a satisfactory manner if at all.
 
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Most of the internet forums I've been on were ROUGH (even the Christian ones), but I am learning from several on these forums how to dialogue more kindly. Mostly just hit a "like" etc. button or keep to short posts.

You are very wise.

Another thing I've learned recently is how not to engage if I sense that someone is endlessly nitpicking. By this I mean, every time I explain, clarify, or defend myself, that statement also gets nitpicked.

Sometimes we need to learn to just let it go.
 
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Lack of real consequence?

If you are mean at work you can be demoted or fired.
If you are mean at school you will not be invited to things and can be expelled.

If you are mean on the internet what can really punish you?
 
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