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Oneness/Modalists - Beliefs?

MannaMinistry

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Here are the scriptures that explain why God is NOT a trinity…

And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord: (Mark 12:29)

I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no savior. Tell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time? who hath told it from that time? have not I the LORD? and there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Savior; there is none beside me. (Isaiah 43:11 & 45:21)

I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins. They understood not that he spake to them of the Father. (John 8:24 & 27)

The question then becomes, “Did Jesus pray to himself?” …

God is spirit, and that one spirit (Father) spoke everything into existence. Man could not see the One God and did not understand Him (example is Job). Father needed to become flesh and walk among his creation (his people) so that we can touch him and handle him and ask him questions and to better understand him. Father being spirit, overshadowed Mary and she gave birth to Jesus, thus becoming the son of God.

When Jesus prayed, he prayed to the spirit IN him (Father) and said he (Father) doeth the works.

I also have the Father IN me (the one true spirit) and when I pray, I pray to the father who is IN me (just like Father was IN Jesus).

After the resurrection, Father was locked into that flesh tabernacle (Jesus Body) and is the ONLY God we have.

God bless.
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Here are the scriptures that explain why God is NOT a trinity…

And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord: (Mark 12:29)

I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no savior. Tell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time? who hath told it from that time? have not I the LORD? and there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Savior; there is none beside me. (Isaiah 43:11 & 45:21)

I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins. They understood not that he spake to them of the Father. (John 8:24 & 27)

The question then becomes, “Did Jesus pray to himself?” …

God is spirit, and that one spirit (Father) spoke everything into existence. Man could not see the One God and did not understand Him (example is Job). Father needed to become flesh and walk among his creation (his people) so that we can touch him and handle him and ask him questions and to better understand him. Father being spirit, overshadowed Mary and she gave birth to Jesus, thus becoming the son of God.

When Jesus prayed, he prayed to the spirit IN him (Father) and said he (Father) doeth the works.

I also have the Father IN me (the one true spirit) and when I pray, I pray to the father who is IN me (just like Father was IN Jesus).

After the resurrection, Father was locked into that flesh tabernacle (Jesus Body) and is the ONLY God we have.

God bless.
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Nice strawmen! For we Trinitarians believe the LORD is one Lord, and that there is no other Saviour besides Him, that there is no other God besides Him.
 
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Here are the scriptures that explain why God is NOT a trinity…

And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord: (Mark 12:29)

I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no savior. Tell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time? who hath told it from that time? have not I the LORD? and there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Savior; there is none beside me. (Isaiah 43:11 & 45:21)

I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins. They understood not that he spake to them of the Father. (John 8:24 & 27)

The question then becomes, “Did Jesus pray to himself?” …

God is spirit, and that one spirit (Father) spoke everything into existence. Man could not see the One God and did not understand Him (example is Job). Father needed to become flesh and walk among his creation (his people) so that we can touch him and handle him and ask him questions and to better understand him. Father being spirit, overshadowed Mary and she gave birth to Jesus, thus becoming the son of God.

When Jesus prayed, he prayed to the spirit IN him (Father) and said he (Father) doeth the works.

I also have the Father IN me (the one true spirit) and when I pray, I pray to the father who is IN me (just like Father was IN Jesus).

After the resurrection, Father was locked into that flesh tabernacle (Jesus Body) and is the ONLY God we have.

God bless.
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MannaMinistry, with all due respect, you didn't answer the question. I didn't ask for you to explain "why God is NOT a trinity" - notice that I never even mentioned the Trinity at all, so I'm not sure why you brought it up in the first place. Can you state more clearly what you believe, not what you don't believe?
 
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Hi, Modalism is the idea that GOD is a singular being that expresses Himself in three major manifestation of deity. Where as trinity is the idea that GOD is made up of three induvidual personalities as one being.
A 3rd century priest named Sabellius is generaly credited for the theology of Modalism, and he was excommunicated for this teaching arround A.D. 220.

I'd like to point out that traces of Modalism pop up in verious, mostly protestant faiths that claim to be trinitarian. For example you are more likely to hear a protestant make the statement of trinity,"GOD the Father, GOD the Son, GOD the Holy Spirit," . The Catholic will make the statement," the Father, the Son, the Holy Spirit," which induvidualizes each one as a personality.
 
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Before people start pointing out that my belief concerning Trinity is oneness, I will post. :ebil:

This is my doctrine:

God is operating through the role of the Father, the role of the Son, and the role of the Holy Spirit simultaneously.

God's form is a Spirit for John 4:24 says God is a Spirit.

The Father is the Son in essence, the Son is the Holy Spirit in essence, and the Holy Spirit is the Father in essence.

Therefore, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit is one Spirit.

The Father is not the Son in role, the Son is not the Holy Spirit in role, and the Holy Spirit is not the Father in role.

The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit is three distinct roles/functions/the actions and activities assigned to or required or expected of one God.

God is three Role.
 
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Modalism was a heresy condemned by the Second Ecumenical Council at Constantinople in A.D. 381.

Canon I said:
The Faith of the Three Hundred and Eighteen Fathers assembled at Nice in Bithynia shall not be set aside, but shall remain firm. And every heresy shall be anathematized, particularly that of the Eunomians or [Anomæans, the Arians or] Eudoxians, and that of the Semi-Arians or Pneumatomachi, and that of the Sabellians, and that of the Marcellians, and that of the Photinians, and that of the Apollinarians.

From the Synodical letter.

Through them we wish to make it plain that our disposition is all for peace with unity for its sole object, and that we are full of zeal for the right faith. For we, whether we suffered persecutions, or afflictions, or the threats of emperors, or the cruelties of princes, or any other trial at the hands of heretics, have undergone all for the sake of the evangelic faith, ratified by the three hundred and eighteen fathers at Nicæa in Bithynia. This is the faith which ought to be sufficient for you, for us, for all who wrest not the word of the true faith; for it is the ancient faith; it is the faith of our baptism; it is the faith that teaches us to believe in the name of the Father, of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost. According to this faith there is one Godhead, Power and Substance of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost; the dignity being equal, and the majesty being equal in three perfect hypostases. Thus there is no room for the heresy of Sabellius by the confusion of the hypostases, i.e. the destruction of the personalities; thus the blasphemy of the Eunomians, of the Arians, and of the Pneumatomachi is nullified, which divides the substance, the nature, and the godhead, and super-induces on the uncreated consubstantial and co-eternal Trinity a nature posterior, created and of a different substance. We moreover preserve unperverted the doctrine of the incarnation of the Lord, holding the tradition that the dispensation of the flesh is neither soulless nor mindless nor imperfect; and knowing full well that God’s Word was perfect before the ages, and became perfect man in the last days for our salvation.
 
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