One thing I don't understand about the creationist position

[Ace777]

Says the guy with William T Sherman (or whomever it is, as his pic).

We had a confederate sword from the war but my brother in law sold it. Most likely to buy alcohol. Or more they stole it from him because he most likely got ten cents on the dollar for it.

 

[AV1611VET]

But you offer no hypothesis as to why other than implying that he is a phony.

He's on a crusade to right what he thinks he thinks is wrong.

May I ask why YOU and your cheering section post where you will encounter (shudder) atheists with pov quite different from yours?

To fulfill the Great Commission.

 

[AV1611VET]

Do we have wrongs that need to be righted?

If so, and if he's using science to do it, then he's just replacing one wrong with another.

 

[AV1611VET]

We had a confederate sword from the war but my brother in law sold it. Most likely to buy alcohol. Or more they stole it from him because he most likely got ten cents on the dollar for it.

 

[dlamberth]

There were no islands during the Flood.

Only one giant one.

In academic circles, it's drawn like this:

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There most diffidently were islands when Pangaea existed. Some even rode the Juan de Fuca plate like a conveyor belt to form much of the land mass in the Pacific Northwest. That's why there are so many different ages and land types in Oregon and parts of Washington and Northern California.

 

[Astrid]

There most diffidently were islands when Pangaea existed. Some even rode the Juan de Fuca plate like a conveyor belt to form much of the land mass in the Pacific Northwest. That's why there are so many different ages and land types in Oregon and parts of Washington and Northern California.

The way to know all about historical geology
is to avoid any form of study, and just make things up.

You go to a lot of trouble to get it all wrong.

ETA- my most sincere apology for this post as
written.*

It's about the person you were conversing with, not you.

* clearly I had a cold, and jet lag.

 

[AV1611VET]

There most diffidently were islands when Pangaea existed.

You were there?

 

[AV1611VET]

The way to know all about historical geology is to avoid any form of study, and just make things up.

I don't think he made that up.

Maybe -- but I doubt it.

You go to a lot of trouble to get it all wrong.

I think others made it up, and he's just repeating it.

Faith in the documentation; that's what it's all about.

 

[dlamberth]

Faith in the documentation; that's what it's all about.

I have faith in the geologist that know these sorts of things. I also have faith in what I saw with my own eyes. The being the ancient tree fossils and clams found in those island arcs.

So, there were 8 island masses that moved west on the Farallon plate between 130 and 260 million years ago. The western edge of the North American continent at that time ran along the Idaho/Oregon boarder which those islands ran up against and docked, forming much of Northwest. Some of these island masses are made up of rocks that are 500 million years old. This all happened when Pangea was breaking up. Than it was all glued together by lava.

 

[AV1611VET]

I have faith in the geologist that know these sorts of things.

Nice.

I also have faith in what I saw with my own eyes.

Nice.

The being the ancient tree fossils and clams found in those island arcs.

Nice.

So, there were 8 island masses that moved west on the Farallon plate between 130 and 260 million years ago.

Not nice.

The western edge of the North American continent at that time ran along the Idaho/Oregon boarder which those islands ran up against and docked, forming much of Northwest.

Not nice.

Some of these island masses are made up of rocks that are 500 million years old.

Nice.

This all happened when Pangea was breaking up. Than it was all glued together by lava.

Now you just contradicted yourself.

Eight islands, yet all glued together by lava?

Or are you saying these eight islands torpedoed themselves into the Northwest, when Pangaea was "breaking" [sic] up?

 

[dlamberth]

Now you just contradicted yourself.

Eight islands, yet all glued together by lava?

Or are you saying these eight islands torpedoed themselves into the Northwest, when Pangaea was "breaking" [sic] up?

Not at all. First came the islands. Than some 75million years later came the lava. Some of that lava came from the seduction of the plate. A lot of it also came from the Yellowstone hot spot when it was under Oregon some 16 million years ago.

But the point being, there were islands during the time of Pangaea. Oregon is proof of that truth.

 

[Astrid]

Not at all. First came the islands. Than some 75million years later came the lava. Some of that lava came from the seduction of the plate. A lot of it also came from the Yellowstone hot spot when it was under Oregon some 16 million years ago.

But the point being, there were islands during the time of Pangaea. Oregon is proof of that truth.

Point being you can cite actual rock solid data
and your friend makes things up.

 

[AV1611VET]

Point being you can cite actual rock solid data ...

... on paper.

I have a feeling you guys weren't there.

... and your friend makes things up.

Genesis 1:9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
10 And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.

I'm missing the part about islands here.

 

[dlamberth]

... on paper.

I have a feeling you guys weren't there.



Genesis 1:9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
10 And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.

I'm missing the part about islands here.

Thanks. That's just yet another example with what the Earth is actually showing us about itSelf (as Created by God) where it tells a very different story than the ancient middle-eastern creation stories of a nomadic desert tribe. I'll trust the story we see in the Earth in this case.

 

[AV1611VET]

That's just yet another example with what the Earth is actually showing us about itSelf (as Created by God) ...

Then why the need for higher education, if Earth is giving us all this information about itSelf [sic]?

... where it tells a very different story than the ancient middle-eastern creation stories ...

"Middle-eastern"?

"Stories" -- as in plural?

If Mother Earth is telling you this, I have a feeling what part of Earth that's coming from.

... of a nomadic desert tribe.

"A" tribe -- as in singular?

Methinks your Mother can't count.

And how did this desert tribe [sic] get into the desert to begin with?

According to academia, they were never out there in the first place.

I'll trust the story we see in the Earth in this case.

Let your academy know.

They claim to be out there traipsing around finding nothing.

 

[dlamberth]

Let your academy know.

They claim to be out there traipsing around finding nothing.

I'm guessing that the way you see it is that when God cleaned up after the flood he also put those look alike islands in place here in the Northwest area. Is that right?

 

[AV1611VET]

I'm guessing that the way you see it is that when God cleaned up after the flood he also put those look alike islands in place here in the Northwest area. Is that right?

That is wrong.

I claim when God pulled Pangaea apart like a cracker, islands came about.

Try it yourself.

Take a cracker and break it apart.

See those crumbs?

They're islands.

(Cue the Hawaiian Islands and atolls coming up! )

 

[dlamberth]

That is wrong.

I claim when God pulled Pangaea apart like a cracker, islands came about.

Try it yourself.

Take a cracker and break it apart.

See those crumbs?

They're islands.

(Cue the Hawaiian Islands and atolls coming up! )

You do geology with crackers?

 

[AV1611VET]

You do geology with crackers?

My Tectonic Plates Challenge

 

[Jipsah]

.I'm missing the part about islands here.

Then islands must be assumed not to exist.