One Jesus, two testimonies?

[MercyBurst]

Because the Bible tells me so

Not good enough. You skipped my original question to you:

http://foru.ms/showpost.php?p=40481881&postcount=457

Do you know you are alive because someone tells you? Sorry -- not good enough.

 

[Floatingaxe]

I sense they've change their strategy of trying to debate as they've run out of ammunition.

The think some here are just horribly dismayed that an abomination like us can have a close relationship with God while they run around like Pharisees.

It is impossible to have an intimate relationship with the Father God when one lives in unrighteousness. He withdraws from you. As I said before---God will not be mocked.

 

[Brieuse]

Not good enough. You skipped my original question to you:

http://foru.ms/showpost.php?p=40481881&postcount=457

Do you know you are alive because someone tells you? Sorry -- not good enough.

"so tell me you know the difference"

yes

Going to bed now.

The Bible tells me that when I accepted Jesus into my life, and got baptised in the Holy Spirit then I was saved. The Holy Spirit lives within me whether you like it or not.

 

[Brieuse]

It is impossible to have an intimate relationship with the Father God when one lives in unrighteousness. He withdraws from you. As I said before---God will not be mocked.

yes dear

 

[tulc]

waiting on answer to question about Holy Spirit in you.(tulc forgot)

Hey! I have an idea: why don't you give the answer and we'll try and answer in the form of a question!
tulc(loves Jeopardy!)

 

[MercyBurst]

Brieuse,

Another hint for you: We are alive in Christ NOW.

Maybe Holy Spirit in different time zone for you, no? Maybe in future time zone, no?

 

[MercyBurst]

Hey! I have an idea: why don't you give the answer and we'll try and answer in the form of a question!
tulc(loves Jeopardy!)

Me like fun games too. Let's play you look for Holy Spirit until you find, like hide and go seek, no? Much fun.

 

[OllieFranz]

The Bible neither confirms nor contradicts this statement, so there is no way of knowing whether it is true. But even if it is true, that does not mean that his reason for celibacy before conversion was a homosexual attraction.

Dear Olliefranz,
Ah but that’s just one opinion, others believe the Bible confirms it and so we know its true. The point Mercyburst is making is that both cant be true as they are opposites.

Yes, only one can be true, but both were honestly reached by prayer and study of the Scriptures. Neither of us has a clear understanding of the will of God, so neither of us can claim certainty that our view is right and the other's is wrong. In both cases, however, it is God who will judge which of us (or possibly that both of us) let his biases get in the way of the message from the Holy Spirit.

If the Holy Spirit calls them to a life of celibacy, it also gives them a special blessing to live that life. Especially since the Spirit-filled celibate lifestyle is specifically intended to allow the person to be more fully dedicated to the Gospel. He does not feel it to be a sacrifice.

But if a person is living sacrificing himself in celibacy, not because of a calling by the Holy Spirit, but because his fellow Christians claim that he cannot serve Jesus in a marriage with a spouse of the same sex, then he is indeed making a huge sacrifice.

But what is the Holy Spirit going to call people to if not marriage or celibacy?

Well, there is also the temporary celibacy of someone who has not yet found his life-mate, but I assume you are asking what the homosexuals not called to life-long celibacy are called to. It is marriage, just as the heterosexuals not called to life-long celibacy.

As long as he continues to believe that such a relationship is wrong, it would be sinful for him to persue such a relationship. He would be caught in an intolerable situation. That is why he needs to hear about the freedom that is his through Jesus and His Sacrifice of Atonement.

well yes and know, God’s love is that Jesus gave up everything for us, that’s the cost we have been bought for, many Christians in the world are in danger of their lives because of their faith, although celibacy is quite a sacrifice its no more than any other sin someone struggles to give up.

Errrm.. No. I can tell you from personal experience, that if the Spirit calls one to celibacy, then it is a blessing, not a sacrifice. If someone sacrifices himself to celibacy because he thinks the alternative is a sin, it is a worthy sacrifice, but an unnecessary one if the alternative is, in fact, not sinful.

 

[Floatingaxe]

"so tell me you know the difference"

yes

Going to bed now.

The Bible tells me that when I accepted Jesus into my life, and got baptised in the Holy Spirit then I was saved. The Holy Spirit lives within me whether you like it or not.

The Bible tells us to grow up in God, that it's our responsibility to become mature in Christ. Grieving the Spirit continuously makes Him leave.

 

[MercyBurst]

I have another hint for Brieuse:

Jehovah (the great I am) is not the God of the dead, but of the living. You are alive no?

 

[Ohioprof]

It is impossible to have an intimate relationship with the Father God when one lives in unrighteousness. He withdraws from you. As I said before---God will not be mocked.

Gay people do not live in "unrighteousness."

 

[Ohioprof]

Don't confuse issues of culture with issues of morality. There is no vascillation when it comes to God's commands.

It is no more allowed of God for the sinner to decide that fornication is not a sin than it is for the pedophile, murderer and rapist to decide that their sin is not sin.

You are free to imagine that you speak for God. I certainly don't think you do.

 

[Ohioprof]

Well, the Holy Spirit spooked them again.

Mighty quiet around this place. *me whistling*

Nice little stringer of fish here: Ohioprof, Brieuse, and now tulc *here fishie fishie*

Maybe some of us have other things to do in our lives sometimes. My daughter is sick, and I had to keep her out of school today. She is now sleeping peacefully next to the cat, whom she loves. Poor little sweetheart. I hate it when she is sick.

 

[MercyBurst]

Maybe some of us have other things to do in our lives sometimes. My daughter is sick, and I had to keep her out of school today. She is now sleeping peacefully next to the cat, whom she loves. Poor little sweetheart. I hate it when she is sick.

I understand. My whole family has a bug. I've been hacking all day.

So where did we leave off? Oh, yes -- you said you tried to follow what Jesus taught.

So Jesus said ye must be born again to enter into the kingdom of God. As I recall you didn't subscribe to that part of the Lord's teaching.

Perhaps today is better.

 

[MercyBurst]

"so tell me you know the difference"

yes

Going to bed now.

The Bible tells me that when I accepted Jesus into my life, and got baptised in the Holy Spirit then I was saved. The Holy Spirit lives within me whether you like it or not.

oh but I do like it. Tell me more, about the spirit that lives in you now.

 

[Floatingaxe]

Gay people do not live in "unrighteousness."

Yes, they surely do. They live in perpetual rejection of the law of God, and unrepentantly so. They are walking outside of the Kingdom, and camping outside, thinking they are inside. That is what is called delusion. God sees it like that as well...

2 Thessalonians 2:11
And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie,

 

[tulc]

Maybe some of us have other things to do in our lives sometimes. My daughter is sick, and I had to keep her out of school today. She is now sleeping peacefully next to the cat, whom she loves. Poor little sweetheart. I hate it when she is sick.

Aww! I'm very sorry to hear this sis! I'll pray for you both!
tulc(you get some rest, you're no good to her if you get sick also)

 

[Zaac]

Gay people do not live in "unrighteousness

Honestly OhioProf, where do you come up with this stuff?

 

[MercyBurst]

A little talk about the Holy Spirit sure spooks the gays. I wonder why.

They tell us we all have that same spirit inside of us like brothers and sisters.

But there's just nothing for them to talk about. oookeee.

 

[MercyBurst]

"so tell me you know the difference"

yes

Going to bed now.

bad day huh?

The Holy Spirit lives within me whether you like it or not.

Hmmm... maybe not the Jesus somebody wants to share...

yeah.. I think I know about that one...