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Peter stood up and said to them, "Brethren, you know that in the early days God made a choice among you, that by my mouth the Gentiles would hear the word of the gospel and believe.
8 "And God, who knows the heart, testified to them giving them the Holy Spirit, just as He also did to us;
9 and He made no distinction between us and them, cleansing their hearts by faith.
10 "Now therefore why do you put God to the test by placing upon the neck of the disciples a yoke which neither our fathers nor we have been able to bear?
11 "But we believe that we are saved through the grace of the Lord Jesus, in the same way as they also are."
12 All the people kept silent, and they were listening to Barnabas and Paul as they were relating what signs and wonders God had done through them among the Gentiles.

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'Send to Joppa and have Simon, who is also called Peter, brought here;
14 and he will speak words to you by which you will be saved, you and all your household.'
15 "And as I began to speak, the Holy Spirit fell upon them just as He did upon us at the beginning.
16 "And I remembered the word of the Lord, how He used to say, 'John baptized with water, but you will be baptized with[15][Or in ] the Holy Spirit.'
17 "Therefore if God gave to them the same gift as He gave to us also after believing in the Lord Jesus Christ, who was I that I could stand[16][Lit prevent God ] in God's way?"
18 When they heard this, they quieted[17][Lit became silent ] down and glorified God, saying, "Well then, God has granted to the Gentiles also the repentance that leads to life."

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34 Opening his mouth, Peter said: "I most certainly understand now that God is not one to show partiality,
35 but in every nation the man who fears[28][Or reverences ] Him and does[29][Lit works righteousness ] what is right is welcome to Him.
36 "The word which He sent to the sons of Israel, preaching peace[30][Or the gospel of peace ] through Jesus Christ (He is Lord of all)—
37 you yourselves know the thing which took place throughout all Judea, starting from Galilee, after the baptism which John proclaimed.
38 "You[31][Or How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth ] know of Jesus of Nazareth, how God anointed Him with the Holy Spirit and with power, and[32][Lit who went ] how He went about doing good and healing all who were oppressed by the devil, for God was with Him.
39 "We are witnesses of all the things He did both in the land[33][Or countryside ] of the Jews and in Jerusalem. They also put Him to death by hanging Him on a cross[34][Lit wood ].
40 "God raised Him up on the third day and granted that He become visible,
41 not to all the people, but to witnesses who were chosen beforehand by God, that is, to us who ate and drank with Him after He arose from the dead.
42 "And He ordered us to preach[35][Or proclaim ] to the people, and solemnly to testify that this is the One who has been appointed by God as Judge of the living and the dead.
43 "Of Him all the prophets bear witness that through His name everyone who believes in Him receives forgiveness of sins."
44 While Peter was still speaking these words, the Holy Spirit fell upon all those who were listening to the message[36][Lit word ].

45 All the circumcised[37][Lit believers from among the circumcision; i.e. Jewish Christians] believers who came with Peter were amazed, because the gift of the Holy Spirit had been poured out on the Gentiles also.
46 For they were hearing them speaking with tongues and exalting God. Then Peter answered,
47 "Surely no one can refuse the water for these to be baptized who have received the Holy Spirit just as we did, can he?"
48 And he ordered them to be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ. Then they asked him to stay on for a few days.

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But Ananias answered, "Lord, I have heard from many about this man,(PAUL) how much harm he did to Your saints[6][Or holy ones ] at Jerusalem;
14 and here he has authority from the chief priests to bind all who call on Your name."
15 But the Lord said to him, "Go, for he is a chosen instrument[7][Or vessel ] of Mine, to bear My name before the Gentiles and kings and the sons of Israel;
16 for I will show him how much he must suffer for My name's sake."


31 So the church throughout all Judea and Galilee and Samaria enjoyed[13][Lit was having ] peace, being built up; and going on in the fear of the Lord and in the comfort of the Holy Spirit, it continued to increase.
 
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One Gospel indeed and One Savior indeed -to all men.

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The MAD would have us believe -if they could just get us to swallow it- that all who came before Paul will be in a lower position of eternal rewards and eternal place of dwelling, than those who follow "them" -the way they say Paul was supposed to be followed; which is a totally wrong, and in my opinion, a totally wicked distortion of all that Jesus Christ taught, and of that which He taught His disciples to believe -even Paul.

Paul followed Jesus Christ, and is not the foundation of any new organization begun in him on him of him, called the "body of Christ" for that One Body is the Church itself, universal, founded upon the Apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ the Chief Cornerstone.

All the Law and the Prophets testify to Jesus Christ, which is Paul's tesitmony -or "witness" also, as He, the LORD Jesus, is the "Testimony" or "Witness" of all who are born again, "in Him".

http://www.christianforums.com/showpost.php?p=28105375&postcount=56
Act 8:3As for Saul, he made havock of the body of Christ*, entering into every house, and haling men and women committed [them] to prison.
Act 8:4¶Therefore they that were scattered abroad went every where preaching the word.

The "body of Christ" went everywhere preaching the "Gospel"

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Eph 1:22And hath put all [things] under his feet, and gave him [to be] the head over all [things] to the church,
Eph 1:23Which is his body, the fulness of him that filleth all in all.
Act 2:47 Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church* daily such as should be saved.

Act 2:47And the Lord added to the the body of Christ* daily such as should be saved.

"The body of Christ went everywhere preaching the Gospel"
The body of Christ is the Church, one and the same, the universal Church which each person is added to by the Holy Spirit when they believe on the Name of the LORD Jesus.
 
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The Kingdom of God is also one kingdom, and the kingdom of God is entered by the regeneration of Spirit, now, and in body at the time of the translation.
Jesus taught His disciples the "Mystery of the kingdom of God".
Paull preached the same Gospel of the Kingdom of God that Jesus came preaching and which all His disciples preached.

Mar 4:11 And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all [these] things are done in parables:


Jhn 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and [of] the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

Act 1:3 To whom also he shewed himself alive after his passion by many infallible proofs, being seen of them forty days, and speaking of the things pertaining to the kingdom of God:

Act 8:12 But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women.

Act 14:22 Confirming the souls of the disciples, [and] exhorting them to continue in the faith, and that we must through much tribulation enter into the kingdom of God.

Act 19:8 And he went into the synagogue, and spake boldly for the space of three months, disputing and persuading the things concerning the kingdom of God.

Act 20:25 And now, behold, I know that ye all, among whom I have gone preaching the kingdom of God, shall see my face no more.

Act 28:23 And when they had appointed him a day, there came many to him into [his] lodging; to whom he expounded and testified the kingdom of God, persuading them concerning Jesus, both out of the law of Moses, and [out of] the prophets, from morning till evening.

Act 28:31 Preaching the kingdom of God, and teaching those things which concern the Lord Jesus Christ, with all confidence, no man forbidding him.

Rom 14:17 For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost.

1Cr 4:20 For the kingdom of God [is] not in word, but in power.

1Cr 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,

1Cr 6:10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

1Cr 15:50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.

Gal 5:21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told [you] in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

Col 4:11 And Jesus, which is called Justus, who are of the circumcision. These only [are my] fellowworkers unto the kingdom of God, which have been a comfort unto me.

2Th 1:5 [Which is] a manifest token of the righteous judgment of God, that ye may be counted worthy of the kingdom of God, for which ye also suffer:
 
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And also it is the One Everlasting Gospel, of the One Everlasting Covenant of Peace with God for all in Adam -whosoever will.
Rev 14:6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,

The everlasting Covenant was "preached" to Abraham, who received the promise of the Living Spirit of that everlasting Covenant in his name change -and then was given the "sign" of the everlasting covenant to wear in his adamic flesh, which sign is circumcision on the eighth day of all male Jews; which sign is the oracle in the flesh of every male Jew of the "cutting off" of all multiplying seed of Adam in the eighth day of creation, which is the day of the new beginning in which all in Adam will be cut off forever from the presence of the glory and only those reborn of the incorruptible Seed will continue before the face of the Creator forever.

We who are born again in Spirit have the promised Spirit and also have the circumcision of the "heart", which is the "inner man"; for the incorruptible Seed has been born in us and we are set apart, sanctified, for the glory that is to come in the regenerated bodies which we will receive in the image of "the Elect [human] Son of God", the Only Begotten Everliving Firstborn of the Father.
 
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Peter stood up and said to them, "Brethren, you know that in the early days God made a choice among you, that by my mouth the Gentiles would hear the word of the gospel and believe.
8 "And God, who knows the heart, testified to them giving them the Holy Spirit, just as He also did to us;
9 and He made no distinction between us and them, cleansing their hearts by faith.
10 "Now therefore why do you put God to the test by placing upon the neck of the disciples a yoke which neither our fathers nor we have been able to bear?
11 "But we believe that we are saved through the grace of the Lord Jesus, in the same way as they also are."
12 All the people kept silent, and they were listening to Barnabas and Paul as they were relating what signs and wonders God had done through them among the Gentiles.

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'Send to Joppa and have Simon, who is also called Peter, brought here;
14 and he will speak words to you by which you will be saved, you and all your household.'
15 "And as I began to speak, the Holy Spirit fell upon them just as He did upon us at the beginning.
16 "And I remembered the word of the Lord, how He used to say, 'John baptized with water, but you will be baptized with[15][Or in ] the Holy Spirit.'
17 "Therefore if God gave to them the same gift as He gave to us also after believing in the Lord Jesus Christ, who was I that I could stand[16][Lit prevent God ] in God's way?"
18 When they heard this, they quieted[17][Lit became silent ] down and glorified God, saying, "Well then, God has granted to the Gentiles also the repentance that leads to life."

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34 Opening his mouth, Peter said: "I most certainly understand now that God is not one to show partiality,
35 but in every nation the man who fears[28][Or reverences ] Him and does[29][Lit works righteousness ] what is right is welcome to Him.
36 "The word which He sent to the sons of Israel, preaching peace[30][Or the gospel of peace ] through Jesus Christ (He is Lord of all)&#8212;
37 you yourselves know the thing which took place throughout all Judea, starting from Galilee, after the baptism which John proclaimed.
38 "You[31][Or How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth ] know of Jesus of Nazareth, how God anointed Him with the Holy Spirit and with power, and[32][Lit who went ] how He went about doing good and healing all who were oppressed by the devil, for God was with Him.
39 "We are witnesses of all the things He did both in the land[33][Or countryside ] of the Jews and in Jerusalem. They also put Him to death by hanging Him on a cross[34][Lit wood ].
40 "God raised Him up on the third day and granted that He become visible,
41 not to all the people, but to witnesses who were chosen beforehand by God, that is, to us who ate and drank with Him after He arose from the dead.
42 "And He ordered us to preach[35][Or proclaim ] to the people, and solemnly to testify that this is the One who has been appointed by God as Judge of the living and the dead.
43 "Of Him all the prophets bear witness that through His name everyone who believes in Him receives forgiveness of sins."
44 While Peter was still speaking these words, the Holy Spirit fell upon all those who were listening to the message[36][Lit word ].

45 All the circumcised[37][Lit believers from among the circumcision; i.e. Jewish Christians] believers who came with Peter were amazed, because the gift of the Holy Spirit had been poured out on the Gentiles also.
46 For they were hearing them speaking with tongues and exalting God. Then Peter answered,
47 "Surely no one can refuse the water for these to be baptized who have received the Holy Spirit just as we did, can he?"
48 And he ordered them to be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ. Then they asked him to stay on for a few days.

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But Ananias answered, "Lord, I have heard from many about this man,(PAUL) how much harm he did to Your saints[6][Or holy ones ] at Jerusalem;
14 and here he has authority from the chief priests to bind all who call on Your name."
15 But the Lord said to him, "Go, for he is a chosen instrument[7][Or vessel ] of Mine, to bear My name before the Gentiles and kings and the sons of Israel;
16 for I will show him how much he must suffer for My name's sake."


31 So the church throughout all Judea and Galilee and Samaria enjoyed[13][Lit was having ] peace, being built up; and going on in the fear of the Lord and in the comfort of the Holy Spirit, it continued to increase.
two or more can play the games of "Bump".
this is an excellent post by Jeff Weeder.
 
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"For when they shall say, "Peace and safety;" then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.
But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.
Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness."

Does this sound like 'one everlasting covenant of peace'?
 
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Very good post! But it makes me wonder (not!) why the dispys aren't over here pointing out your error (to them) and correcting you on each and every point!

At least FoundinHim had enough muster to at least squeak-up - although he could not refute one item - not ONE! All he could do was "threaten" you.

I would like to add...

Acts 11:18 - "And when they [the Jews]heard these things [how Peter was the FIRST to preach the gospel to the Gentiles], they held their peace, and glorified God, saying, Then to the Gentiles ALSO hath God granted repentance unto life."

Preaching to the Gentiles started with PETER - not Paul!
Peter was first, then those mentioned in Acts 11:20 were next - with Paul being way downline!

Keep up the good work - the dispys need help!

You just gotta love the TRUTH !
 
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Very good post! But it makes me wonder (not!) why the dispys aren't over here pointing out your error (to them) and correcting you on each and every point!

At least FoundinHim had enough muster to at least squeak-up - although he could not refute one item - not ONE! All he could do was "threaten" you.

I would like to add...

Acts 11:18 - "And when they [the Jews]heard these things [how Peter was the FIRST to preach the gospel to the Gentiles], they held their peace, and glorified God, saying, Then to the Gentiles ALSO hath God granted repentance unto life."

Preaching to the Gentiles started with PETER - not Paul!
Peter was first, then those mentioned in Acts 11:20 were next - with Paul being way downline!

Keep up the good work - the dispys need help!

You just gotta love the TRUTH !
I add my agreement to your post, only I would add that Jesus actually offered the Gentiles Salvation first -a whole village of Gentiles believed in Jesus because He offered one Gentile woman Living Water! -John 4.
Samarians were called Gentiles -I went to a samarian web site to find that, seems only about 400 of them still exist today.
 
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Preaching the death, burial and resurrection as the means by which we are saved was preached FIRST by Paul.

Peter went to ONE gentile to usher in Pauls ministry and to show there was a CHANGE afoot. He never went to another, in fact , Christ told them ALL (the twelve) to go to "NONE BUT THE JEWS ONLY"...so...as you can see this is erroneous information.

By the way, Cornelius was saved according to the ONLY gospel in town...the KINGDOM gospel. Peter wasnt commissioned to preach to the gentiles, and HE KNEW IT! Why do you think he argued with God when God told him he was sending him to ONE gentiles home?????? THINK THINK


Heres another thing to note:

Salvation being available to gentiles was NEVER a mystery. All they had to do was to come thru ISRAEL and be proselytes. However, they were saved under the KINGDOM gospel and followed KINGDOM RULES...as it was a LAW program and Jewish all the way.
 
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"For when they shall say, "Peace and safety;" then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.
But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.
Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness."

Does this sound like 'one everlasting covenant of peace'?
Dear foundinhim,

The everlasting Covenant is that which is the promise of the Spirit of regeneration given to Abraham, in Genesis 17, when "the One Living Spirit" -"Life"was added to his name, and Abraham was redeemed [Isaiah 29:22] -by faith




Gen 17:5
Neither shall thy name any more be called Abram, but thy name shall be AbraHAm; for a father of many nations have I made thee..

Gen 17:7
And I will establish my covenant between me and thee and thy seed after thee in their generations for an everlasting covenant, to be a God unto thee, and to thy seed after thee.

Isa 29:22Therefore thus saith the LORD, who redeemed Abraham..."

Rom 4:17 (As it is written, I have made thee a father of many nations,) before him whom he believed, [even] God, who quickeneth the dead, and calleth those things which be not as though they were.


Mat 22:32 I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and theGod of Jacob? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living.


Mar 12:27 He is not the God of the dead, but the God of the living: ye therefore do greatly err.


Jesus gave the Promised Holy Spirit of regeneration to His own after His resurrection and ascension, when He appeared to them -but as YHWH is a Triune God, He told them to tarry for the Holy Spirit of Power -which was given to them when He received the Glory, seated as Firstborn of earth [second Man and Last Adam], seated as a human, as the Firstborn, the High Priest of earth and High King of Earth, seated in the the heavenlies, and sent the power and the downpayment of the glory of the Father -to come- to them on Pentecost

Jhn 20:22 And when he had said this, he breathed on [them], and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost:

Gal 3:14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of theSpirit through faith.




Eph 1:13 In whom ye also [trusted], after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
 
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Weeder -

Very good post! But it makes me wonder (not!) why the dispys aren't over here pointing out your error (to them) and correcting you on each and every point!

At least FoundinHim had enough muster to at least squeak-up - although he could not refute one item - not ONE! All he could do was "threaten" you.

I would like to add...

Acts 11:18 - "And when they [the Jews]heard these things [how Peter was the FIRST to preach the gospel to the Gentiles], they held their peace, and glorified God, saying, Then to the Gentiles ALSO hath God granted repentance unto life."

Preaching to the Gentiles started with PETER - not Paul!
Peter was first, then those mentioned in Acts 11:20 were next - with Paul being way downline!

Keep up the good work - the dispys need help!

You just gotta love the TRUTH !
Hey guys look at the timeframe of the first letter to the Corinthians that John and EPH are using as a reference for their belief of the two gospels.

Paul was in Ephesus writing the first letter to the Corinthians at the same time he was preaching the kingdom of God to the Ephesians in Acts 18. Paul was writing the letter to the Corinthians in the time period from Acts 18-20.

He told the Ephesians in Acts 20:25 And now, behold, I know that ye all, among whom I have gone preaching the kingdom of God, shall see my face no more.

GLJCA
 
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You are so right! Time frames are a "killer" to dispy doctrine. The who preached what and when destroys what they believe. This is why you NEVER see a dispy deal with the time line of events in the NT - they get slaughtered like pigs in a Bar-S weiner plant!

Remember that Paul was STILL preaching/teaching water baptism in Acts 19 at Ephesus (about 58 AD. ...and...

Acts 28:30-31 -
30 And he abode two whole years in his own hired dwelling, and received all that went in unto him, 31 preaching the kingdom of God, and teaching the things concerning the Lord Jesus Christ with all boldness, none forbidding him.

Here at Rome Paul is STILL preaching the KINGDOM of God - so late in Paul's ministry about 60 AD. But don't expect a dispy to acknowldge this.
 
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Hey guys look at the timeframe of the first letter to the Corinthians that John and EPH are using as a reference for their belief of the two gospels.

Paul was in Ephesus writing the first letter to the Corinthians at the same time he was preaching the kingdom of God to the Ephesians in Acts 18. Paul was writing the letter to the Corinthians in the time period from Acts 18-20.

He told the Ephesians in Acts 20:25 And now, behold, I know that ye all, among whom I have gone preaching the kingdom of God, shall see my face no more.

GLJCA
The Kingdom of God is a phrase that is used interchangeably by both Peter and Paul. Youve proved nothing by this...just another rabbit trail.
 
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The Kingdom of God is a phrase that is used interchangeably by both Peter and Paul. Youve proved nothing by this...just another rabbit trail.
Rabbit trails all lead from the heart. Believe in the Lord Jesus and cleanse ourselves in the Blood of His body so we may all enjoy the Water of Life streaming out from His Words of Life.
Deuteronomy 30:15 `See, I have set before thee [Israel] to-day life and good, and death and evil,
Reve 2:23 and her children I will kill in death, and know shall all the assemblies that I am he who is searching reins and hearts; and I will give to you--to each--according to your works. 24 `And to you I say, and to the rest who are in Thyatira,
It is significant to note that the phrases “Kingdom of God” and “Kingdom of Heaven” are not to be found in the Old Testament. They are strictly New Testament terms beginning with John the Baptist and Jesus. When Jesus came He did not preach a message called grace, or salvation, or justification, or sanctification, or regeneration, or even the Church.

Could there be any more glorious message than the one that fell from His lips as He began His sonship ministry declaring, “The KINGDOM OF GOD IS AT HAND!” From that time forward the great teaching of the Lord centered in the truth of THE KINGDOM. His gospel was the gospel (good news) of the Kingdom of God.

He only lightly touched on the other subjects which today are considered the great doctrines of the Church and then only as they related to the Kingdom. All of these things are included within the Kingdom, but the Kingdom is none of them. The Kingdom is THE RULE OF GOD. It is the DOMINION OF GOD. That is exactly what it is.

And Jesus came with just that message — the revelation of the RULE OF GOD within the hearts of men, and through men, over the earth, yea, over the whole vast universe! First He must reign completely in our lives. The Kingdom of God is God in Christ in the saints governing the creation of God. The rule of God begins in the hearts of His elect.
 
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Rabbit trails all lead from the heart. Believe in the Lord Jesus and cleanse ourselves in the Blood of His body so we may all enjoy the Water of Life streaming out from His Words of Life.It is significant to note that the phrases “Kingdom of God” and “Kingdom of Heaven” are not to be found in the Old Testament. They are strictly New Testament terms beginning with John the Baptist and Jesus. When Jesus came He did not preach a message called grace, or salvation, or justification, or sanctification, or regeneration, or even the Church.

Could there be any more glorious message than the one that fell from His lips as He began His sonship ministry declaring, “The KINGDOM OF GOD IS AT HAND!” From that time forward the great teaching of the Lord centered in the truth of THE KINGDOM. His gospel was the gospel (good news) of the Kingdom of God.

He only lightly touched on the other subjects which today are considered the great doctrines of the Church and then only as they related to the Kingdom. All of these things are included within the Kingdom, but the Kingdom is none of them. The Kingdom is THE RULE OF GOD. It is the DOMINION OF GOD. That is exactly what it is.

And Jesus came with just that message — the revelation of the RULE OF GOD within the hearts of men, and through men, over the earth, yea, over the whole vast universe! First He must reign completely in our lives. The Kingdom of God is God in Christ in the saints governing the creation of God. The rule of God begins in the hearts of His elect.
Luke1:31-33
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And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS.
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He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David: 33
And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.

"the house of Jacob for ever;"
Are we of the house of Jacob?
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and of his kingdom there shall be no end."
This is the gospel of the kingdom
 
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Luke1:31-33
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And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS.
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He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David: 33
And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.

"the house of Jacob for ever;"
Are we of the house of Jacob?
"
and of his kingdom there shall be no end."
This is the gospel of the kingdom
Yep we are. We are the seed of Abraham by adoption through faith in Jesus Christ.
Eph 1:5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,
Gal 3:29 And if ye [be] Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

We are adopted into the covenant people of God by faith in Abraham's seed Jesus Christ. Before Christ we were outside of the covenants of promise but now we are together with the covenant people of God.
Eph 2:12-13 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.

The MAD dispy skips over the New Testament fulfillment of the OT prophecy and therefore miss the beauty of the position that we hold in Christ.

Christ is king and we are His kingdom and through Him we are more than conquerors. That is why I believe that the Church will storm the gates of Hell and take the gospel to the whole world and the gospel will bring the world into subjection to Christ.

GLJCA
 
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Preaching the death, burial and resurrection as the means by which we are saved was preached FIRST by Paul.
Thus it is written, that the Christ[19][I.e. Messiah] would suffer and rise again from the dead the third day,
http://www.christianforums.com/47 and that repentance for[20][Later mss read and forgiveness ] forgiveness of sins would be proclaimed in[21][Or on the basis of ] His name to all the nations, beginning from Jerusalem.


29 But Peter and the apostles answered, "We must obey God rather than men.
30 "The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom[15][Or on whom you had laid violent hands ] you had put to death by hanging Him on a cross[16][Lit wood ].
31 "He is the one whom God exalted to[17][Or by ] His right hand as a Prince[18][Or Leader ] and a Savior, to grant repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins.
32 "And we are witnesses of[19][One early ms adds in Him ] these things; and so is the Holy Spirit, whom God has given to those who obey Him."


in fact , Christ told them ALL (the twelve) to go to "NONE BUT THE JEWS ONLY"...so...as you can see this is erroneous information.

Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit,
http://www.christianforums.com/20 teaching them to observe all that I commanded you; and lo, I am with you always[7][Lit all the days ], even to the end of the age."
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By the way, Cornelius was saved according to the ONLY gospel in town..

This is true

Peter wasnt commissioned to preach to the gentiles, and HE KNEW IT!

Peter stood up and said to them, "Brethren, you know that in[4][Lit from days of old ] the early days God made a choice among you, that by my mouth the Gentiles would hear the word of the gospel and believe.

8 "And God, who knows the heart, testified to them giving them the Holy Spirit, just as He also did to us;
9 and He made no distinction between us and them, cleansing their hearts by faith.



 
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Very good post! But it makes me wonder (not!) why the dispys aren't over here pointing out your error (to them) and correcting you on each and every point!

At least FoundinHim had enough muster to at least squeak-up - although he could not refute one item - not ONE! All he could do was "threaten" you.

I would like to add...

Acts 11:18 - "And when they [the Jews]heard these things [how Peter was the FIRST to preach the gospel to the Gentiles], they held their peace, and glorified God, saying, Then to the Gentiles ALSO hath God granted repentance unto life."

Preaching to the Gentiles started with PETER - not Paul!
Peter was first, then those mentioned in Acts 11:20 were next - with Paul being way downline!

Keep up the good work - the dispys need help!

You just gotta love the TRUTH !
you think quoting "the holy Scriptures" is to 'threaten you'?

you and other "unlearned" posters must not know or understand what "the day of the Lord" is.

When Christ Jesus returns, it will not be to bring "peace", you do know this, don't you?
 
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