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If it is pertinent - re "overcoming"You made your exhortation of overcoming one of putting the burden on the saved,
Of course, anyone who knows anything about Judaism knows what the book of life is. It is the book which God keeps regarding those who will live and those who will die in a particular year. At the Day of Atonement God opens His book and blots out the names of those who will die in the coming year. Earnest prayers in the synagogues are offered to God that their particular names will not be blotted out and that they will have yet another year of life on this earth.
You made your exhortation of overcoming one of putting the burden on the saved, rather than on Christ whom borne the burden for all...and even now you do not define overcoming as only by Christ, but only refer to the matter so far as the "knowledge" of Christ.
Thus my point: The topic here is not coming to the "knowledge" of Christ, which is [only] the Beginning. That is not a proper definition of what it means to be "saved." No...the topic is that of having [already] been "saved", which is the End.
"You made your exhortation of overcoming one of putting the burden on the saved,"
Where did I make this statement?
This where you began. But that is not the point of me calling you on the carpet. Rather, it is that you repeatedly pressed the point of quoting the need for people to "overcome" in such a way it appeared that the burden was on them, rather than on Christ.Another reason I don't believe in once saved, always saved, no matter how a person lives his life.
This where you began. But that is not the point of me calling you on the carpet. Rather, it is that you repeatedly pressed the point of quoting the need for people to "overcome" in such a way it appeared that the burden was on them, rather than on Christ.
If you would have instead, repeated that Christ had taken the burden upon Himself, I would not have confronted you, but would have agreed.
This is good - and yet you still leave out the good new of Christ.1Jo 5:4 For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.
Better late than never.Php 4:13 I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me.
Those who are saved won't jump ship. They've already made the decision that determines their salvation status. They've had faith, and done what was right in God's eyes - done what was necessary to enter heaven.Why ?
Not everyone who sailed on the Titanic made it to America.
(I know already; bad example)
So, if someone, anyone , started out on a good ship that makes it eventually across the ocean, full fair paid no problem;
if they JUMP SHIP on purpose in the middle of a stormy windy night with huge waves,
the SHIP WILL MAKE IT,
but they won't because they did not want to.
FREE WILL is so AWESOME !
Those who are saved won't jump ship. They've already made the decision that determines their salvation status. They've had faith, and done what was right in God's eyes - done what was necessary to enter heaven.
This post still doesn't prove anything, either, because my original point was that the word saved has permanence to it. It can't be permanent and then not permanent. You're either saved or you're not, there's no in betweens in the salvation of the Most High.
This is good - and yet you still leave out the good new of Christ.
Better late than never.
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