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I know I have asked about this before but it continues to confuse me. I currently do not believe in once saved, always saved although it is my understanding that most Baptists do believe in once saved, always saved. I am currently searching for the right church for me and am looking into the Baptist churches now. Could you all please post Bible verses and arguments in favor of once saved, always saved. Your help in getting me to understand once saved, always saved would be greatly appreciated. :thumbsup:
 

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Either you are saved or you aren't.

Remember, the Holy Spirit seals your salvation at the time of conversion.
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As a Presbyterian, and since you have baptize infants, is there generally a confirmation or something for converts that are raised in the church since there won't be a baptism? Like when a child makes a decision to follow Christ? I know PCA isn't gonna have altar calls or anything;) but just kinda wondered...

I know about some of the other paedobaptist groups but didn't know about the presbys, if there was a "chrismation" or "confirmation" or something like that...
 
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As a Presbyterian, and since you have baptize infants, is there generally a confirmation or something for converts that are raised in the church since there won't be a baptism? Like when a child makes a decision to follow Christ? I know PCA isn't gonna have altar calls or anything;) but just kinda wondered...

I know about some of the other paedobaptist groups but didn't know about the presbys, if there was a "chrismation" or "confirmation" or something like that...

After being a Baptist and Anabaptist for 40 plus years, I have learned more about infant baptism. I have been immersed 5 times (2 times at 2 different Baptist Churches and 3 times at 1 Anabaptist Church). ^_^

It took me a LONG time to accept infant baptism because I thought it was like Catholicism's baptism. Its not. So, its not what Catholic does so, don't go there. Its not about Believers Baptism until the child accepted Christ one day.

I have been in PCA less than 2 years since I could not find a good Reformed Baptist Church. PCA is so close to Reformed Baptist in most doctriens. Infant baptism is not salvation. Its a promise of God's Covenant that we are to lead each child to Christ. Its so similar to dedication but not the same.

Further study on the topic:
Paedobaptism - Covenant Infant Baptism
 
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I know I have asked about this before but it continues to confuse me. I currently do not believe in once saved, always saved although it is my understanding that most Baptists do believe in once saved, always saved. I am currently searching for the right church for me and am looking into the Baptist churches now. Could you all please post Bible verses and arguments in favor of once saved, always saved. Your help in getting me to understand once saved, always saved would be greatly appreciated. :thumbsup:
I have been Baptist all my life and I had to leave because of the danger in this man made doctrine. There are a lot of great Christians in the Baptist faith.
It comes down to this God wants a personal relationship with each one of us. Everyone should seek the the Lord through His Word for themselves.
I don't stand on any church doctrine, just the Word of God. If we take a honest look at the bible you will see many warnings for Christians. Why are we warned if we are osas.
God gave the promise of eternal life before time began. Titus 1:2
The promise was completed 2000 years ago on a Cross. John 19:30
People in the old testament were saved the same way we are. By our faith in Jesus. If they had faith that God would fulfill the promise when they died they would be saved. We are saved if we have faith in that the promise has already been fulfilled.
Heres the catch, we must continue in the faith, hold on to the faith. build up our faith, grow in the faith.
There is no works in salvation. It was finished for us on the Cross by Jesus. Its impossible to earn your salvation.
We must make every effort to enter through the narrow door. Luke 13:24
That effort is in our faith. Faith comes from Romans 10:17
A lot of people in the osas doctrine get so comfortable they quit seeking God. And they let their guard down. They Will stand on a few bible verse that claim they have salvation now. If you read the whole bible you will see our salvation is to come. 1 Peter 1:5
Hebrews 9:28 tells us Jesus is coming a 2nd time not to bear sins but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for Him.
They love John 10:28 no one can snatch you out of the Fathers hand. The word snatched means: can not be forced out, or taken quickly. We can wander from the Father hand.
If you read 1 Tim you will see we can shipwreck our faith, wander from our faith, money can cause you to wander from the faith.
I could go on with many verses.
Just seek the Holy Spirit to lead you. We have the Holy Spirit here with us. John came to baptize with water, but Jesus came to baptize you with the Holy Spirit.

God Bless
 
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Either you are saved or you aren't.

Remember, the Holy Spirit seals your salvation at the time of conversion.

After being a Baptist and Anabaptist for 40 plus years, I have learned more about infant baptism. I have been immersed 5 times (2 times at 2 different Baptist Churches and 3 times at 1 Anabaptist Church). ^_^

It took me a LONG time to accept infant baptism because I thought it was like Catholicism's baptism. Its not. So, its not what Catholic does so, don't go there. Its not about Believers Baptism until the child accepted Christ one day.

I have been in PCA less than 2 years since I could not find a good Reformed Baptist Church. PCA is so close to Reformed Baptist in most doctriens. Infant baptism is not salvation. Its a promise of God's Covenant that we are to lead each child to Christ. Its so similar to dedication but not the same.

Further study on the topic:
Paedobaptism - Covenant Infant Baptism
So then is there a general call to conversion on the children, or is it something private, or is there a confirmation sort of thing?

And I guess it's safe to say that the baptism isn't really a guarantee or promise toward salvation since it's based on "election" and not a baptism into a covenant?
 
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Either you are saved or you aren't.

Remember, the Holy Spirit seals your salvation at the time of conversion.
Can you please use the Bible to back this up? I have heard that we are sealed by the Holy Spirit at salvation before but I have never really seen Bible verses to back this up before.
 
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I have been Baptist all my life and I had to leave because of the danger in this man made doctrine. There are a lot of great Christians in the Baptist faith.
It comes down to this God wants a personal relationship with each one of us. Everyone should seek the the Lord through His Word for themselves.
I don't stand on any church doctrine, just the Word of God. If we take a honest look at the bible you will see many warnings for Christians. Why are we warned if we are osas.
God gave the promise of eternal life before time began. Titus 1:2
The promise was completed 2000 years ago on a Cross. John 19:30
People in the old testament were saved the same way we are. By our faith in Jesus. If they had faith that God would fulfill the promise when they died they would be saved. We are saved if we have faith in that the promise has already been fulfilled.
Heres the catch, we must continue in the faith, hold on to the faith. build up our faith, grow in the faith.
There is no works in salvation. It was finished for us on the Cross by Jesus. Its impossible to earn your salvation.
We must make every effort to enter through the narrow door. Luke 13:24
That effort is in our faith. Faith comes from Romans 10:17
A lot of people in the osas doctrine get so comfortable they quit seeking God. And they let their guard down. They Will stand on a few bible verse that claim they have salvation now. If you read the whole bible you will see our salvation is to come. 1 Peter 1:5
Hebrews 9:28 tells us Jesus is coming a 2nd time not to bear sins but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for Him.
They love John 10:28 no one can snatch you out of the Fathers hand. The word snatched means: can not be forced out, or taken quickly. We can wander from the Father hand.
If you read 1 Tim you will see we can shipwreck our faith, wander from our faith, money can cause you to wander from the faith.
I could go on with many verses.
Just seek the Holy Spirit to lead you. We have the Holy Spirit here with us. John came to baptize with water, but Jesus came to baptize you with the Holy Spirit.

God Bless
That was an excellent Post!!
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Can you please use the Bible to back this up? I have heard that we are sealed by the Holy Spirit at salvation before but I have never really seen Bible verses to back this up before.
2 Co. 1:21,22 Now He who establishes us with you in Christ and appointed us in God, v.22 Who also sealed us and gave us the Spirit in our hearts as a pledge.

Eph. 1:13 In Him, you also, after listening to the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation, having also believed, you were sealed in Him with the holy Spirit of promise.

Eph. 4:30 Do not grieve the holy Spirit of God, by Whom you were sealed for the day of redemption. (NASB)
 
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Can you please use the Bible to back this up? I have heard that we are sealed by the Holy Spirit at salvation before but I have never really seen Bible verses to back this up before.
This is the problem when people start trying to say things the bible does not say. They will take verses out of context. Like salvation, they will say we possess it right now. No we don't. We have it through our faith only.

It like the word saved. We are saved, being saved and going to be saved it we continue in our faith in Jesus Christ.

A lot of people put the cart before the horse.
God wants us to be and feel secure in Him. We are as secure as we want to be. God has done everything for us. He loves us so much He sent His Son to PAY FOR ALL OUR SINS.
But God is not going to force us to stay will Him.

God wants our love for Him to grow. When people take the time to read the whole bible and build their relationship will Jesus through the Word of God, they will see how much God loves them.

When you build your faith on the Word of God nobody can shake it. I have every promise in the bible. All I have to do is continue my FAITH IN JESUS.

When we have a true relationship with Jesus we want to serve Him and get to know more about Him. The effort is worth it.

Most people have built their relationship with Jesus through a Preacher, Sunday School Teacher, a Parent, Friend or who ever. But they never build it through the Word of God. I don't care if the whole world quits following Christ. My faith is built on the Word of God not a church doctrine or some person. Jesus Christ laid the foundation for us to build on. If the person you learned about Jesus wander from the faith will you?

People will say their name is written in the Lambs Book Of Life and can never be taken out. This is why we must read the whole bible. Rev 3:5 This is about the lukewarm church, this is where a lot of Christians are today. This verse plainly says if we overcome our name will not be BLOTTED OUT of the book of life.

God Bless
 
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2 Co. 1:21,22 Now He who establishes us with you in Christ and appointed us in God, v.22 Who also sealed us and gave us the Spirit in our hearts as a pledge.

Eph. 1:13 In Him, you also, after listening to the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation, having also believed, you were sealed in Him with the holy Spirit of promise.

Eph. 4:30 Do not grieve the holy Spirit of God, by Whom you were sealed for the day of redemption. (NASB)
Ah okay thank you!
 
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Can you please use the Bible to back this up? I have heard that we are sealed by the Holy Spirit at salvation before but I have never really seen Bible verses to back this up before.

Christ through His death and resurrection, every legal hindrance has been met and satisfied. There is nothing that can keep me from the promise. Its not about thinking our way into salvation or to reason our way into salvation. The only way to get in is to believe Him with my heart which is sealed by the Holy Spirit through the gift of Faith, through Jesus Christ, His grace and the conviction of the Holy Spirit.


Salvation for Eternal Life is Guaranteed and here are my references:

Romans 2:29 (NIV) No, a man is a Jew if he is one inwardly; and circumcision is circumcision of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the written code. Such a man's praise is not from men, but from God.

2 Corinthians 3:3(NIV) You show that you are a letter from Christ, the result of our ministry, written not with ink but with the Spirit of the living God, not on tablets of stone but on tablets of human hearts.

2 Corinthians 1:22 set His seal of ownership on us, and put his Spirit in our hearts as a deposit, guaranteeing what is to come.

Ephesians 1:13 And you also were included in Christ when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation. Having believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit.

Ephesians 4:30 And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, with whom you were sealed for the day of redemption.

2 Timothy 2:19 Nevertheless, God's solid foundation stands firm, sealed with this inscription: "The Lord knows those who are his," and, "Everyone who confesses the name of the Lord must turn away from wickedness."


Promise of Eternal Life verses:
Titus 1:2 a faith and knowledge resting on the hope of eternal life, which God, who does not lie, promised before the beginning of time.

Hebrews 9:15 For this reason Christ is the mediator of a new covenant, that those who are called may receive the promised eternal inheritance—now that he has died as a ransom to set them free from the sins committed under the first covenant.

James 1:12 Blessed is the man who perseveres under trial, because when he has stood the test, he will receive the crown of life that God has promised to those who love him.

1 John 2:25 And this is what he promised us—even eternal life.

Matthew 25:46 "Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life."

John 3:15 that everyone who believes in him may have eternal life.

John 3:16 "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

John 3:36 Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever rejects the Son will not see life, for God's wrath remains on him."

John 4:14 but whoever drinks the water I give him will never thirst. Indeed, the water I give him will become in him a spring of water welling up to eternal life."

John 4:36 Even now the reaper draws his wages, even now he harvests the crop for eternal life, so that the sower and the reaper may be glad together.

John 5:24 "I tell you the truth, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be condemned; he has crossed over from death to life.

John 5:39 You diligently study the Scriptures because you think that by them you possess eternal life.

John 6:27 Do not work for food that spoils, but for food that endures to eternal life, which the Son of Man will give you. On him God the Father has placed his seal of approval."

John 6:40 For my Father's will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day."

John 6:54 Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day.

John 10:28 I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one can snatch them out of my hand.

John 12:25 The man who loves his life will lose it, while the man who hates his life in this world will keep it for eternal life.

John 12:50 I know that his command leads to eternal life. So whatever I say is just what the Father has told me to say."

John 17:2 "Father, the time has come. Glorify your Son, that your Son may glorify you. For you granted him authority over all people that he might give eternal life to all those you have given him.

John 17:3 Now this is eternal life: that they may know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.

Acts 13:46 Then Paul and Barnabas answered them boldly: "We had to speak the word of God to you first. Since you reject it and do not consider yourselves worthy of eternal life, we now turn to the Gentiles.

Acts 13:48 When the Gentiles heard this, they were glad and honored the word of the Lord; and all who were appointed for eternal life believed.

Romans 2:7 To those who by persistence in doing good seek glory, honor and immortality, he will give eternal life.

Romans 5:21 so that, just as sin reigned in death, so also grace might reign through righteousness to bring eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

Romans 6:22 But now that you have been set free from sin and have become slaves to God, the benefit you reap leads to holiness, and the result is eternal life.

Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Galatians 6:8 The one who sows to please his sinful nature, from that nature will reap destruction; the one who sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap eternal life.

1 Timothy 1:16 But for that very reason I was shown mercy so that in me, the worst of sinners, Christ Jesus might display his unlimited patience as an example for those who would believe on him and receive eternal life.

1 Timothy 6:12 Fight the good fight of the faith. Take hold of the eternal life to which you were called when you made your good confession in the presence of many witnesses.

Titus 1:2 a faith and knowledge resting on the hope of eternal life, which God, who does not lie, promised before the beginning of time.

Titus 3:7 so that, having been justified by his grace, we might become heirs having the hope of eternal life.

1 John 1:2 The life appeared; we have seen it and testify to it, and we proclaim to you the eternal life, which was with the Father and has appeared to us.

1 John 5:11 And this is the testimony: God has given us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. 1 John 5:13 I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God so that you may know that you have eternal life.

1 John 5:20 We know also that the Son of God has come and has given us understanding, so that we may know him who is true. And we are in him who is true—even in his Son Jesus Christ. He is the true God and eternal life.

Jude 1:21 Keep yourselves in God's love as you wait for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ to bring you to eternal life.


Guaranteed to Come
1 Timothy 4:8 For physical training is of some value, but godliness has value for all things, holding promise for both the present life and the life to come.

Hebrews 11:39 These were all commended for their faith, yet none of them received what had been promised.

2 Corinthians 1:22 set his seal of ownership on us, and put his Spirit in our hearts as a deposit, guaranteeing what is to come.

2 Corinthians 5:5 Now it is God who has made us for this very purpose and has given us the Spirit as a deposit, guaranteeing what is to come.

1 Timothy 4:8 For physical training is of some value, but godliness has value for all things, holding promise for both the present life and the life to come.
 
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So then is there a general call to conversion on the children, or is it something private, or is there a confirmation sort of thing?

And I guess it's safe to say that the baptism isn't really a guarantee or promise toward salvation since it's based on "election" and not a baptism into a covenant?

Between Dedication and Baptism is that the sacrament of baptism proclaims that our deliverance comes from God. God approaches us, covenants with us, and is dwell within us. We wash our children with the sign of the covenant first, then ask parents to respond with their vows. The Sacrament of baptism is a covenant sign that ratifies the covenant between God and the individual (this is generally admitted by Reformed Baptists when it comes to credo baptism). In the Bible, dedications also function as a form of vow or covenant, obligating the individuals dedicated to a particular course of action, however, dedications obligate people to lesser vows or covenants, whereas baptism obligates one to the covenant, that is, to God’s covenant with his people. The difference between Reformed Baptists and Reformed Presbyterians is many times an issue of ecclesiology rather than of sacramentology. Another reason is if one member household family is a believer, then that believer sanctifies the rest of the family. The Reformed baptize infants of Christian parents is because the Bible teaches both household salvation and household baptism. The idea of household salvation may be observed as early as the institution of the Abrahamic covenant and it is clearly implied at the institution of the Passover (Ex. 12:13). The efficacy of the sacrificial passover lamb applied to the whole household, not just believing adults and teenagers. That there is a continuity between the passover salvation and that of the multi-racial church is proven by the statement that Christ Himself is our Passover (1 Cor. 5:7). In the New Testament, salvation, and therefore baptism, is applied to households (Ac. 2:37-42; 11:14; 16:15; 31-34; 1 Cor. 1:16). The idea that children of covenant parents enter into a covenant relationship with God flows naturally from the OT to the NT; there is no indication of any radical change, by which natural offspring of the Jewish parents in OT were included in the covenant but that the natural offspring of the Christian parents in NT were excluded from the covenant.

The baptism does not guarantee salvation but a promise of God's covenant and only God knows who are the elect. I have met many Reformed families that have members who are not spiritually saved including mine.
 
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I think of being saved as this:

God only gave his only son to us once, so we can be saved. So therefore that must mean that he doesn't come back every time we sin because we're unsaved, he did it once, so i think of it as since he did it once, all we have to do is get saved once. Does that make sense?
 
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I think of being saved as this:

God only gave his only son to us once, so we can be saved. So therefore that must mean that he doesn't come back every time we sin because we're unsaved, he did it once, so i think of it as since he did it once, all we have to do is get saved once. Does that make sense?
We must always go to the bible. We can't go by what we think. Its comes down to this what did God say through His Word.

We were saved 2000 years ago because of the what Jesus did on the
Cross.

Read these verses.
Matt 10:22, 24:13, Mark 13:13, 1 Corinthians 10:12, 15:2, 16:13
Colossians 1:21-23 2 Thessalonians 2:14 & 15 Hebrews 2:1-4, 3:12, 4:14, 5:9,

Its like this if you were drowning in the ocean and a boat came by and saved you, you are saved but your not to the shore yet. We must hold on to that boat. That boat is our faith.

Everybody has faith in something. God gave everyone faith. But we must make sure we build that faith in the Word of God. We must make sure we hold on to our faith in Jesus.

A lot of people have faith in a church doctrine, a preacher, a parent, a friend and so on. We must put all our faith in The Word of God. Not a man made doctrine.

God Bless
 
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Someone asked my Dad, who as long as I can remember has been a christian, if he was saved. He told them no, he was born again. Matthew 24:13 tells us "But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
It is an ongoing process. I do believe you can only be born again one time. We must then strive to be sinless, which is truly impossible. I do believe everyone sins unwillingly from day to day. All it takes is a cross word to someone or a slip of the tounge. We then must ask forgiveness of that sin. Remember, sin cannot enter into the kingdom od heaven. As someone said earlier in the post. You were born again, you are born again and you must continue to be born again. God Bless.
 
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We must always go to the bible. We can't go by what we think. Its comes down to this what did God say through His Word.

We were saved 2000 years ago because of the what Jesus did on the
Cross.

Read these verses.
Matt 10:22, 24:13, Mark 13:13, 1 Corinthians 10:12, 15:2, 16:13
Colossians 1:21-23 2 Thessalonians 2:14 & 15 Hebrews 2:1-4, 3:12, 4:14, 5:9,

Its like this if you were drowning in the ocean and a boat came by and saved you, you are saved but your not to the shore yet. We must hold on to that boat. That boat is our faith.

Everybody has faith in something. God gave everyone faith. But we must make sure we build that faith in the Word of God. We must make sure we hold on to our faith in Jesus.

A lot of people have faith in a church doctrine, a preacher, a parent, a friend and so on. We must put all our faith in The Word of God. Not a man made doctrine.

God Bless
Matt 10:22 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.

Matt 24: 13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

Mark 13: 13 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

1 Corinthians 10:12 Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall.

1 Corinthians 15:2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.

1 Corinthians 16:13 Watch ye, stand fast in the faith, quit you like men, be strong.

Colossians 1:21 And you, that were sometime alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now hath he reconciled 22 In the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight: 23 If ye continue in the faith grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel, which ye have heard, and which was preached to every creature which is under heaven; whereof I Paul am made a minister;

2 Thessalonians 2: 14 Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ. 15 Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.

Hebrews 2:1 Therefore we ought to give the more earnest heed to the things which we have heard, lest at any time we should let them slip. 2 For if the word spoken by angels was stedfast, and every transgression and disobedience received a just recompence of reward; 3 How shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation; which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed unto us by them that heard him; 4 God also bearing them witness, both with signs and wonders, and with divers miracles, and gifts of the Holy Ghost, according to his own will?

Hebrews 3:12 Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God.

Hebrews 4:14 Seeing then that we have a great high priest, that is passed into the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our profession.

Hebrews 5: 9 And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;


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Hehe...

Mathew 7:21...

"Not all who say to me Lord, Lord will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of my father in heaven. "

Also

Hebrews 6:4-6:

"4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, 5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, 6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame. " I think that's just quite enough....
 
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