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Adulterers will not inherit the kingdom of God. That is God's word. Go ahead and judge me by it...I am not an adulterer.
I believe in OSAS for those who are truly the elect:
John 10:27-29
My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
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John 12:49 "I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak. And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak.",
Luke 9:55 "the Son of man is not come(i.e. the true Lord God never comes) to destroy men's lives, but(i.e. but He always comes solely with a view) to save them.",
Matthew 18:11-14 "For the Son of man is come(i.e. for the true Lord God comes) to save that which was lost. How think ye? if a man have an hundred sheep, and one of them be gone astray, doth he not leave the ninety and nine, and goeth into the mountains, and seeketh that which is gone astray? And if so be that he find it, verily I say unto you, he rejoiceth more of that sheep, than of the ninety and nine which went not astray. Even so it is not the will of your Father which is in heaven, that one of these little ones(i.e. that anyone of the humans) should perish.",
John 14:6-9 "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him. Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us. Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?",
John 1:18 "No man hath seen God at any time, the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.",
1 John 4:12 "No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us.",
1 Timothy 2:1-10 "I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks(i.e. blessings), be made for all men(i.e. for all humans); For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty(i.e. in all goodness and earnestness). For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; Who will have all men(i.e. all humans/souls) to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth(i.e. and to become good/righteous). For there is one God, and one mediator(also: and one Lord) between God and men, the man(i.e. the ensouled being) Christ Jesus; Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time. Whereunto I am ordained a preacher, and an apostle, (I speak the truth in Christ, and lie not; ) a teacher of the Gentiles in faith and verity. I will therefore that men(i.e. that the male believers) pray every where, lifting up holy hands(i.e. entirely showing/manifesting love/goodness), without wrath(i.e. without hostility/aggression) and doubting(i.e. and dramatization/stir/intrigues/strife). In like manner also, that women(i.e. that female believers) adorn themselves in modest apparel(i.e. in humility), with shamefacedness(i.e. with meekness) and sobriety(i.e. and sedation/sanity); not with broided hair(i.e. not with pride), or gold(i.e. or vainglory), or pearls(i.e. or wisdom), or costly array(i.e. or elevation); But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works.",
Galatians 5:6-14 "For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision(i.e. neither the human implementation of the old testament i.e. which is not by right faith) availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision(i.e. nor whatever human(666) spirituality/religion); but faith which worketh by love..... For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself."
all humans are created of God the Father at least via the biological processes of embryonic formation in the wombs of their mothers, so all people are our brethren and neighbours
Blessings
This is very first time I have ever heard a Catholic profess that they believe in once saved, always saved.
Wouldn't OSAS negate the need for many of the Catholic rites such as the Rite of Confession?
AmishHacker
This is very first time I have ever heard a Catholic profess that they believe in once saved, always saved.
This is very first time I have ever heard a Catholic profess that they believe in once saved, always saved.
Wouldn't OSAS negate the need for many of the Catholic rites such as the Rite of Confession?
AmishHacker
No, because any sacrament reassures us of God's forgiveness and conveys Grace for daily living. However, the Catholic Church does NOT believe in OSAS, even if "City of God' does.
It is simply my belief that the elect will remain faithful to the end.
I think you are mistaken.
It is my understanding (please correct me if I'm mistaken) that Catholics do not believe there is salvation outside of the Catholic Church.
Hm... Would you please explain to me further as to why you think I am mistaken? I would appreciate it very much if you would. Thank you. Also, there is a thread going on right now in the OBOB about this very topic. Here's the link: No Salvation outside the Church[/URL].
It is a very interesting thread to read and follow, IMHO.
No, that would be a misunderstanding. Of course, that WAS the teaching generations ago, but not now.
Then you should have your answer in that thread so why are you asking me?
You make no sense. The scripture says adulterers will not inherit the kingdom of God. I am not judging I'm simply taking God at his word.
yah . you keep repeating that one . do you have a lust problem or something? i don't understand why that's your main focus .
If a Christian is in bed with a prostitute committing adultery
Because it's what this thread is about duh...
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