Once again, CREATIONISTS!

[Deadbolt]

Can you come up with an argument for creationism that is a.) NOT a PRATT. (Point Refuted A Thousand Times) Hint, If you heard it described as "Irrefutable proof" It's probably a PRATT.
b.) Not taken from the Bible.
Those are the rules of this thread, meet the challenge if you can. If you can't, please don't post any of the aforementioned nonsense. It doesn't help you at all.

 

[AV1611VET]

click here

 

[Deadbolt]

This basis seems largely psychological. In anycase, it is not possible to create an apple in from thin air. If such appears to have happened...well, read the quote in my sig, it's worth at least a hundred Bible verses.

 

[AV1611VET]

This basis seems largely psychological. In anycase, it is not possible to create an apple in from thin air. If such appears to have happened...well, read the quote in my sig, it's worth at least a hundred Bible verses.

So what's your answer though?

 

[Deadbolt]

I would use a film in conjunction with motion detectors, Professional wittinesses, namely skeptical illusionists (Many of the good ones are) And lastly repeated results.
basically the same protocol for the JREF Million dollar prize, for which you'd be eligible if you could do such a thing.

 

[EnemyPartyII]

NOOO! I am warning everyone in the strongest possible terms.... Do NOT engage AV116VET in his ex nihilo apple madness... I say again, do NOT...

Sure, from here it looks like a harmless little apple, but it can derail threads like an outed bridge derails freight trains...

Just smile and nod, slowly back away, do NOT make eye contact...

 

[AV1611VET]

I would use a film in conjunction with motion detectors, Professional wittinesses, namely skeptical illusionists (Many of the good ones are) And lastly repeated results.
basically the same protocol for the JREF Million dollar prize, for which you'd be eligible if you could do such a thing.

Deadbolt, what kind of answer is this? You can't take a simple hypothetical and answer it?

Believe me, this speaks volumes, and I've used this challenge as near proof that it is impossible to "come up with an argument for creationism," as your OP is asking for.

If you don't know the answer, just say so.

(Incidentally, I gave the answer to Thaumaturgy in another post. It is actually so simple an answer, I've never seen anyone think of it yet.)

 

[Deadbolt]

Deadbolt, what kind of answer is this? You can't take a simple hypothetical and answer it?

Believe me, this speaks volumes, and I've used this challenge as near proof that it is impossible to "come up with an argument for creationism," as your OP is asking for.

If you don't know the answer, just say so.

(Incidentally, I gave the answer to Thaumaturgy in another post. It is actually so simple an answer, I've never seen anyone think of it yet.)

Then your argument is silly. I'm going to take EnemyParty's advice and disregard it. Gomen.

 

[AV1611VET]

NOOO! I am warning everyone in the strongest possible terms.... Do NOT engage AV116VET in his ex nihilo apple madness... I say again, do NOT...

Sure, from here it looks like a harmless little apple, but it can derail threads like an outed bridge derails freight trains...

Just smile and nod, slowly back away, do NOT make eye contact...

LOL --- I've pwned many people with that simple challenge* --- and I'll continue to use it whenever someone asks for either proof or evidence of creationism.

*Note: I consider someone who doesn't answer it, or answers it like Deadbolt did, as "pwned."

 

[Deadbolt]

LOL --- I've pwned many people with that simple challenge* --- and I'll continue to use it whenever someone asks for either proof or evidence of creationism.

*Note: I consider someone who doesn't answer it, or answers it like Deadbolt did, as "pwned."

You must be so very proud. But I'm not going to play tortured logic games with you. If you have some kind of proof, please show us. We really want to see it.

 

[AV1611VET]

Then your argument is silly. I'm going to take EnemyParty's advice and disregard it. Gomen.

Good deal, Deadbolt --- I don't blame you --- because then you'd have to admit that evidence for ex nihilo creation can indeed exist - (as I showed Thaumaturgy).

 

[EnemyPartyII]

Good deal, Deadbolt --- I don't blame you --- because then you'd have to admit that evidence for ex nihilo creation can indeed exist - (as I showed Thaumaturgy).

can exist... but does not infact, ACTUALLY exist...

No! Wait! Must...Look...Away...

*while the audience screams at the screen "Don't go in there! DON'T GO IN THERE!!!*

 

[Deadbolt]

can exist... but does not infact, ACTUALLY exist...

No! Wait! Must...Look...Away...

*while the audience screams at the screen "Don't go in there! DON'T GO IN THERE!!!*

Exactly. AV1's point is noted and has come to it's conclusion. Evidence CAN exist. Please show us your evidence.

 

[AV1611VET]

You must be so very proud.

Actually I thanked the Lord for giving me that simple challenge.

 

[EnemyPartyII]

Apples ARE NOT, CAN NOT, and NEVER WILL BE evidence of Creationism!

*Her fingers leave a clawed trail in the hard earth of the cliff's edge as she is slowly drawn back into the swirlng chaotic vortex below*

 

[AV1611VET]

can exist... but does not infact, ACTUALLY exist...

No! Wait! Must...Look...Away...

*while the audience screams at the screen "Don't go in there! DON'T GO IN THERE!!!*

Yes --- in fact --- it's simple arithmetic --- but a human can't do it, as it requires a measure of omniscience.

 

[AV1611VET]

Apples ARE NOT, CAN NOT, and NEVER WILL BE evidence of Creationism!

*Her fingers leave a clawed trail in the hard earth of the cliff's edge as she is slowly drawn back into the swirlng chaotic vortex below*

LOL, EP --- I aughta answer it just to put you out of your misery, but I'll give you reps instead.

If you don't like the fact that it's an apple, use anything else --- a pencil, a ruler, a car, anything.

 

[Deadbolt]

Okay...It appears this thread has been raped by the notorious AV1...Ah well, I'll check in on it later...

 

[AV1611VET]

Exactly. AV1's point is noted and has come to it's conclusion. Evidence CAN exist. Please show us your evidence.

You mean you big armchair "scientists" are asking little ole' me, a fundamental, independent Baptist, to show arithmetic evidence that creationism isn't a PRATT?

I'm humbled!

 

[AV1611VET]

Okay...It appears this thread has been raped by the notorious AV1...Ah well, I'll check in on it later...

Sorry, Deadbolt, you should have never started it --- as much as I've referenced people to my Apple Challenge.

(To tell you the truth, I'm waiting for Thaumaturgy to come on here and answer it in his own words. If he doesn't, I'll answer it, myself; unless someone comes up with the answer.)