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You, on the other hand, don't know basic science, and yet you dismiss it at the drop of a hat.
I know enough to know if it's right or wrong.
 
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Why think that falsefiability should be a prerequisite to belief in something? Especially if it is the case that there are reasons to believe in this distant world, or reasons to hypothesize this distant world.
 
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Parents tell kids things which are expected to be believed on authority all the time.
If they are doing that then they are doing a poor job of parenting. They need to accompany presentation of established facts with training in critical thinking. They need to guide their children in understanding how those facts became established and how they must, nevertheless question them, and how they may do so logically and effectively.
I wasn't an especially good parent, but I did at least manage to teach my two to think. I understand rational thinking is a distinguishing feature of humans.
 
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Why think that falsefiability should be a prerequisite to belief in something?
Good question.

I never heard of falsefiability until I came here.

Yet the Bible says to start training up our children.

Looks to me like falsefiability can take a hike.

On the other hand, if someone can't make the dean's list without learning falsefiability, then more power to them.

I say use it if you have to.

Apply your falsefiability to the Bible.

But then don't come crying to me when the Bible turns your falsefiability inside out and hands it back to you anagramed as "affability lies."
 
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How so, when you don't know how science is determined to be right or wrong?
When you believe something's antithesis, you don't need to know the ins and outs.
 
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It reflects an attitude that is averse to learning new things, which is unwise because you never know when certain knowledge will be useful.
It doesn't work that way in trying to impress academians.

Acts 26:24 And as he thus spake for himself, Festus said with a loud voice, Paul, thou art beside thyself; much learning doth make thee mad.

And we're not all MacGyvers.
 
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It doesn't work that way in trying to impress academians.

Acts 26:24 And as he thus spake for himself, Festus said with a loud voice, Paul, thou art beside thyself; much learning doth make thee mad.

And we're not all MacGyvers.
Ah, yes, when trying to impress academics we should definitely bring up the fact that we already know enough. That'll make you the professor's favorite ^_^
 
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Ah, yes, when trying to impress academics we should definitely bring up the fact that we already know enough. That'll make you the professor's favorite ^_^
Do you know all there is about creationism?

If not, are you trying to learn?

And if you are, what do you think about your fellow academians who ask creationists good questions, get good answers, then ridicule the answers?

Do you get the impression they're trying to learn anything?
 
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Do you know all there is about creationism?

If not, are you trying to learn?

And if you are, what do you think about your fellow academians who ask creationists good questions, get good answers, then ridicule the answers?

Do you get the impression they're trying to learn anything?
Like I said, one can never know “enough.” But as far as creation is concerned, I know that it makes claims that are in direct conflict with empirical evidence, which truly is enough to determine that except for models where the creator is deceptive, creation models fail to accurately reflect reality.

I’ve never seen a creationist give a good answer to a good question. Have you?
 
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Like I said, one can never know “enough.” But as far as creation is concerned, I know that it makes claims that are in direct conflict with empirical evidence, which truly is enough to determine that except for models where the creator is deceptive, creation models fail to accurately reflect reality.
In other words, believing something's antithesis is good enough, isn't it?
 
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Depends why you believe the antithesis.
I just find it interesting that those who choose not to forage into the scientific arena are treated with contempt by those who choose not to forage into the creationist arena.
 
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I just find it interesting that those who choose not to forage into the scientific arena are treated with contempt by those who choose not to forage into the creationist arena.
Interesting? I see it as a matter of course.
 
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