'Oldest' image of St Paul discovered

[Michael G]

Sounds totally sane to me, but then again I'm a nut. You would love the museums up here.

Does that make me a nut, because it sounds completely sane to me as well?

 

[Greg the byzantine]

Does that make me a nut, because it sounds completely sane to me as well?

Yes

 

[nutroll]

I'm just glad that I'm not nuts. That sounds weird to me.

 

[Macarius]

I have had plenty of evangelicals and fundamentalists try to tell me that.

Aren't there icons of the Virgin praying in the "orans" style found in catecombs dating from the late 2nd / early 3rd c.?

I pretty sure archeology has confirmed icons being just about as old as the church. It isn't that far fetched to say that, if we have icons in catacombs in the late 2nd / early 3rd c., what's to say there weren't ones significantly earlier...

 

[Michael G]

Aren't there icons of the Virgin praying in the "orans" style found in catecombs dating from the late 2nd / early 3rd c.?

I pretty sure archeology has confirmed icons being just about as old as the church. It isn't that far fetched to say that, if we have icons in catacombs in the late 2nd / early 3rd c., what's to say there weren't ones significantly earlier...

There are orans icons of the Theotokos dating back to about the 2nd century in catacombs. That does not stop the fundamentalists from making the illogical assertations that they do.

 

[Michael G]

I'm just glad that I'm not nuts. That sounds weird to me.

You are nuts. I know that as a dogmatic fact.

 

[Julina]

One of my favorite things to do in an art museum is to look at Romanesque paintings of the Theotokos and debate whether it is still an icon or not.

that's pretty much what i did for my whole Renaissance art semester

 

[Michael G]

that's pretty much what i did for my whole Renaissance art semester

 

[Blonde]

Michael, what are you looking for or what is revealed to you from studying the grain of the wood?

 

[Michael G]

Michael, what are you looking for or what is revealed to you from studying the grain of the wood?

There is an incredible beauty to the grain pattern of wood. I turn wood on a lathe and am always in awe of the grain pattern that comes to life as I turn the block of wood into a bowl, goblet or pen. That is even more true with woods that are burled.

 

[MariaRegina]

There is an incredible beauty to the grain pattern of wood. I turn wood on a lathe and am always in awe of the grain pattern that comes to life as I turn the block of wood into a bowl, goblet or pen. That is even more true with woods that are burled.

Wow! The picture of that last bowl looks almost transparent. It is beautiful.

What do you use to get that beautiful varnished look?

 

[Michael G]

What you are seeing that makes it look almost transparent is the high gloss polyurethane. The bowl is solid wood, made of cocobolo.

 

[Blonde]

Wow, yeah.....I imagine as a piece comes into full development it is pretty neat to see it take shape and to see how it reveals itself as you cut away......
I don't think I've ever experienced that.

 

[Michael G]

Blonde, the wood is usually spinning at 1800-3500 rpm so I can't really see the grain pattern until I stop the lathe. But the very process of watching the bowl go from being a block of wood to the shape I want the bowl to be is pretty spectacular in itself.