'Oldest' image of St Paul discovered

[Blonde]

Methinks someone doesn't know what 4th century AD means.

Loved seeing this Michael. Really amazing.

 

[Michael G]

Methinks someone doesn't know what 4th century AD means.

Loved seeing this Michael. Really amazing.

Wait a minuet? I thought journalists knew everything? Isn't that what they would have you believe?

Anyways, talk about revisionist math? The 4th century was 4,000 years ago? Wow! Amazing stuff!

 

[Michael G]

"The 4,000 year old Fresco was restored using a laser" is written directly under the photo.

I can't answer for the silly things that reporters say...

 

[Michael G]

My biggest question is this: I thought icons were an Orthodox invention that sprung up after the time of Constantine? Isn't that what the hard core fundamentalists would tell you? And yet this icon dates to the 4th century? I guess they are not nearly as late of an invention as they would have you think!

 

[Julina]

My biggest question is this: I thought icons were an Orthodox invention that sprung up after the time of Constantine? Isn't that what the hard core fundamentalists would tell you? And yet this icon dates to the 4th century? I guess they are not nearly as late of an invention as they would have you think!

my roomate this past year actually tried to tell me that icons were not part of the early church

 

[Michael G]

my roomate this past year actually tried to tell me that icons were not part of the early church

I have had plenty of evangelicals and fundamentalists try to tell me that.

 

[silouanathonite]

I find it amazing that the icon looks not much different (if any different) than the icons currently in the Church. It shows that with matters of Tradition, there isn't much change. I know, "CHANGE... IS OUTRAGE!!!"

 

[Michael G]

I find it amazing that the icon looks not much different (if any different) than the icons currently in the Church. It shows that with matters of Tradition, there isn't much change. I know, "CHANGE... IS OUTRAGE!!!"

Amazing isn't it? I have a line drawing somewhere that shows that very concept. Let me see if I can find it.

 

[Michael G]

This is from Michel Quenot's book "The Icon, Window on the Kingdom."

 

[howdydave]

Hmmm...

I never pictured Paul as a goatee type of guy before.

 

[Michael G]

Hmmm...

I never pictured Paul as a goatee type of guy before.

He isn't. If you look close enough at the right side of the face you will see a beard going up the jaw.

 

[Julina]

This is from Michel Quenot's book "The Icon, Window on the Kingdom."

i honestly think that this is why Renaissance Art bothers me so much. and i'll be taking a Baroque art class in the fall.
perhaps i could do a study of this for my art history research project...

 

[Tonks]

this is way cool

 

[Michael G]

i honestly think that this is why Renaissance Art bothers me so much. and i'll be taking a Baroque art class in the fall.
perhaps i could do a study of this for my art history research project...

One of my favorite things to do in an art museum is to look at Romanesque paintings of the Theotokos and debate whether it is still an icon or not.

 

[JacksLadder]

i honestly think that this is why Renaissance Art bothers me so much. and i'll be taking a Baroque art class in the fall.
perhaps i could do a study of this for my art history research project...

I love renaissance art......... as art. To me there has never been a time in history(and maybe never again) that the quality and craftsmanship found in Michelangelo's Moses or the Sistine chapel. It is breath taking and hands down my favorite period of art work.

 

[cobweb]

I love renaissance art......... as art. To me there has never been a time in history(and maybe never again) that the quality and craftsmanship found in Michelangelo's Moses or the Sistine chapel. It is breath taking and hands down my favorite period of art work.

I love the art of that period too. I don't feel the same way about them that I do about my icons though.

 

[Michael G]

I love renaissance art......... as art. To me there has never been a time in history(and maybe never again) that the quality and craftsmanship found in Michelangelo's Moses or the Sistine chapel. It is breath taking and hands down my favorite period of art work.

I used to love renaissance art. But not that much any more. The study of iconography for the past 13 years has seriously influenced the way I look at art. The only artist that I am still a huge fan of is Monet. His work is amazing.

 

[cobweb]

I used to love renaissance art. But not that much any more. The study of iconography for the past 13 years has seriously influenced the way I look at art. The only artist that I am still a huge fan of is Monet. His work is amazing.

I'm a historical textile junkie (and that it putting it mildly). That is why I love renaissance art.

I have a bad habit of doing senseless things like scouring portraits of late 15th century Venetian courtesans to see the variation in chemise neckline treatments or going to museums and looking seam lines in all of the clothes. The first time I met a nun I spent at least 30 minutes secretly trying to figure out what time period her clothing most resembled and way too much time admiring the knife pleats instead of paying attention to the homily.

Yes. I know I am crazy.

 

[Michael G]

I'm a historical textile junkie (and that it putting it mildly). That is why I love renaissance art.

I have a bad habit of doing senseless things like scouring portraits of late 15th century Venetian courtesans to see the variation in chemise neckline treatments or going to museums and looking seam lines in all of the clothes. The first time I met a nun I spent at least 30 minutes secretly trying to figure out what time period her clothing most resembled and way too much time admiring the knife pleats instead of paying attention to the homily.

Yes. I know I am crazy.

When I look at woodwork I ususally study the grain pattern, especially if the wood is a burl.

 

[Greg the byzantine]

I'm a historical textile junkie (and that it putting it mildly). That is why I love renaissance art.

I have a bad habit of doing senseless things like scouring portraits of late 15th century Venetian courtesans to see the variation in chemise neckline treatments or going to museums and looking seam lines in all of the clothes. The first time I met a nun I spent at least 30 minutes secretly trying to figure out what time period her clothing most resembled and way too much time admiring the knife pleats instead of paying attention to the homily.

Yes. I know I am crazy.

Sounds totally sane to me, but then again I'm a nut. You would love the museums up here.